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Proud non-cell phone user.
1 posted on 06/02/2002 6:02:28 PM PDT by handk
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To: handk
First, it's from the Idaho Observer, which makes it suspect.

Second, I'd just love to see those studies that "prove" exposure to electromagnetic energy causes cancer. Care to supply citations from peer-reviewed journals?

2 posted on 06/02/2002 6:05:31 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: handk
I've never used one either. But not because I am a hair-on-fire aluminum-chapeaued loon. Nothing personal. :)
3 posted on 06/02/2002 6:06:23 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: handk
Hey, I've always agreed with this.

What about those HiWi wireless networks that are sprouting up everywhere?

4 posted on 06/02/2002 6:08:47 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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* Cause headaches and pressure behind the eyes * Induce extreme fatigue * Precipitate cataracts/ eye cancer * Create burning sensation/rash on the skin * Damage nerves in the scalp * Heat the angular gyrus (brain area associated with speech and vision) * Activate heat shock proteins in the brain (cell stress) * Induce ringing in the ears, impair sense of smell, cause sensitivity in teeth * Create joint pain, muscle spasms, tremors * Cause digestive problems and raise bad cholesterol levels * Alter the brain's EEG activity during sleep * Open the blood-brain barrier to virus and toxins (cells leak hemoglobin) * Reduce the number and efficiency of white blood cells * Damage blood lymphocyte cells (immune system) * Cause short term memory loss and difficulty concentrating * Promote development of Alzheimer's disease * Stimulate asthma by producing histamine in mast cells * Stress the endocrine system, especially pancreas, thyroid, ovaries, testes * Damage chromosomes, specifically the DNA strands * Induce new cancers and stimulate pre-existing cancers

I suffer from most of these maladies and am miles from the nearest towers and rarlely use my hands free cellphone. I will take two aspirin and call you in the morning.

8 posted on 06/02/2002 6:14:36 PM PDT by tubebender
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"...Proud non-cell phone user..."

Same here.

From the very beginning of this loony fad I've taken the common-sense approach that cell phone radiation can't possibly be a good thing to pump out right next to your brain.

People used to rib me about it.

But I don't take it personally. I know that people hate to face the music when something they enjoy and want isn't good for them, and secretly, on some level, they realize it.

Hell, I'm a sport... I'll even visit them in the hospitals, when they're laying on their deathbeds.

(Those whose brains are still functional enough for them to know I'm visiting them anyway...)

9 posted on 06/02/2002 6:14:43 PM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: handk; poohbah
Pure baloney. My dad was a researcher in microwave radiation for years, and I can assure you that this is all nonsense. For one thing, the waves emitted by cell phones are too "short" to penetrate the skull. This posting should have come with a tin foil hat alert.
13 posted on 06/02/2002 6:17:46 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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Cause headaches and pressure behind the eyes

I got those symptoms from listening to the previous president's speeches.

14 posted on 06/02/2002 6:18:21 PM PDT by steve-b
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Frankly, I find it humorous that cell phone transmissions may cause some disturbance in the bodies of the obnoxious users of the stupid things, unfortunately the effects arent readily apparent! I think the truth of this matter lies somewhere in between, though, most people that I am aquainted with that have cell phones are lazy and rather incompetent anyway and their demise wouldnt be any great loss!
15 posted on 06/02/2002 6:18:39 PM PDT by claptrap
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If you get out your police scanner (yes I am a geek, and mine is right here) start at the lowest Mhz it can scan. Scan upward to the highest fequency it can scan. You will pick up hundreds and maybe thousands of signals in all ranges of frequencies. I am willing to admit that the source is not as close to your head as cell phones are, but considering the number of signals and their CONSTANT bombardmant of all of our bodies....YIKES. I am going down to my specially constructed, foil-lined room to freep. Darn, my computer and monitor are spewing radiation too. Nowhere to hide.
16 posted on 06/02/2002 6:19:09 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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I'm a proud and healthy cellphone user.

I've had a cell phone near my almost 24/7 since the late 1980s. Since 1998, I've had two cell phones strapped to my belt during working hours. In addition, I have several cell phone towers within a few miles of my house due to the proximity of my home to two major highways.

I've only missed one day of work in 20 years and in fact, the last few years have been the healthiest of my life. My cholesterol has dropped to 185, my blood pressure has dropped to normal and in a recent blood analysis, everything falls within normal ranges, from blood sugars to hemoglobins.

17 posted on 06/02/2002 6:22:36 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: handk
Look at the bright side. At least using cell phones won't give you the sh*t fits.
21 posted on 06/02/2002 6:33:50 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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Proud non-cell phone user.

What's to be proud about? Cell phone costs and rates are so low nowadays that your home phone bill will decline by just about as much as you pay for a cell phone. I never use my home phone for long distance so my rate on that is at it's lowest. Plus, with a cell phone, I have the convenience of a phone wherever I am including emergency road conditions.

As to safety, how safe do you think coin phones are? Remember, you are putting a phone receiver to your ear that thousands of others have used. I shudder to think of sticking a phone receiver covered with cooties, lice, or other germs from sickos on the street to my ear.

26 posted on 06/02/2002 6:39:31 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: handk
Obtain a hands-free set and keep the phone away from the body. Everyone in the room can then hear the two-way conversation, but less privacy sure beats brain cancer!

One of my side businesses is selling cell phone accessories. Thanx for the tip. I'll use this one as a sales pitch for hands free kits. BTW, I used to try to sell those radiation blockers but few people wanted to admit they were scared of the radiation but that pitch with the hands free kits sounds like a winner.

27 posted on 06/02/2002 6:42:47 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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My husband owned cell towers, climbed them, and now builds them........this article is the opinion of this man, just as global warming is the opinion of others........

You have the right to not have a cell phone, and I have the right to have one....and I do......I don't have to worry that I might end up on the side of the road, in the dark, with car trouble and have no way to contact someone for help. If you are married, or have a Mother or Father and you chose to allow them to drive with no cell phone for an emergency, then that is your choice.......my husband values my life and safety more than that.

40 posted on 06/02/2002 7:19:13 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: handk
Bull$hit, let's look at real articles.

Radar Exposure Not Linked to Adverse Outcomes in War Veterans

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) May 09 - Korean War Navy veterans exposed to high levels of microwave radiation emitted from radar equipment were no more likely than other men to develop most forms of cancer, according to a recent report. In fact, men with the highest exposure to radar waves--those who repaired and tested the radar equipment--were 35% less likely to die during the follow-up than men in the general US population.

"We found little, if any, evidence of adverse health effects resulting from microwave frequencies," study author Dr. Robert E. Tarone, of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland, told Reuters Health.

One exception, however, was aviation electronics technicians. This highly exposed group of veterans was more than twice as likely as other veteran groups to develop non-lymphocytic leukemia.

However, the authors note that if radiation from radar was to blame, other highly exposed veterans would demonstrate the same increased risk. They suggest the increased risk is related to occupational exposures other than radar, lifestyle factors that are specific to this group, or simply chance.

The results, published in the May issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology, stem from a 40-year follow-up of 40,581 Korean War Navy veterans designed to study the long-term impact of high levels of microwave radiation on health.

Studies of the association between radiation and brain cancer, leukemia and testicular cancer have yielded conflicting results. During the Korean War some soldiers were exposed to high levels of radiation from search radar and fire control radar.

Dr. Tarone emphasized that radiation emitted by radar detectors, cell phones and microwaves is different from extremely high-energy radiation like x-rays, which, as numerous studies have shown, can cause harm.

"The average person would never be exposed to the high levels of radar waves that the Navy technicians were exposed to," he said.

Dr. Tarone explained that the finding that highly exposed veterans lived longer than men in the general population likely results from the "healthy soldier" effect. People have to pass physical exams to enter the Navy, he said, and must maintain their fitness while in service. Therefore, veterans are likely healthier to begin with than the general population, and may tend to exercise more.

Am J Epidemiol 2002;155:810-818.

42 posted on 06/02/2002 7:23:56 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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Proud non-cell phone user.

Same here buddy. I say don't wate your energy trying to ban their use while driving or parachuting or whatever. The fight appears hopeless in this crazy country. Promote them (or continue promoting them as it were.) The Darwinian maroons who cain't live without them will just die out.

43 posted on 06/02/2002 7:24:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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Recent studies show cell phone use is not associated with increased cancer risk.

J Natl Cancer Inst 2001 Feb 7;93(3):170-2

(ISSN: 0027-8874)

48 posted on 06/02/2002 7:29:18 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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your cell phone emits powerful microwave signals

Ooooooohhhh...now tell me...don't cell phones operate in the microwatt or milliwatt range? Compare this to a standard household microwave oven that requires a 20 amp breaker...putting it in the 2200 kilowatt range. You're talking about a source of radiation that's either a billion or a million times less than what we're familiar with as harmful microwave radiation. Powerful?!?! I think not.

52 posted on 06/02/2002 7:35:59 PM PDT by Fredgoblu
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Cell Phones and Cancer: No Clear Connection by Tamar Nordenberg

Of the 100 million American cellular phone subscribers, some use their wireless phone only in a crisis--to call a friend or 911. They put their rap sessions on hold until arriving home, where phoning a friend costs no cents per minute.

For other wireless phone owners, it could be the fear of brain cancer, not an unwieldy wireless bill, that keeps them from using their cell phones for leisure chats.

Convinced that a nine-year cell phone habit led to his brain cancer, neurologist Chris Newman, M.D., has filed an $800 million lawsuit in Baltimore against his cell phone's maker and several other telecommunications companies. His suit comes five years after the dismissal, for lack of evidence, of a lawsuit filed in Florida by David Reynard, who alleged that a cell phone was responsible for his wife's fatal brain cancer.

In Newman's case, his lawyer has said, "it's really not a question at all" whether the cancer is cell phone-related. The evidence, she says: Newman's own doctors made the connection between his long-time cell phone use and his tumor, which is positioned in "the exact anatomical location where the radiation from the cell phone emitted into his skull."

Newman has been front and center in a renewed public focus over the last few months on whether the fear of brain cancer from wireless phones is well-founded or folly. For his part, epidemiologist Sam Milham, M.D., recently expressed a breakaway scientific viewpoint when he told the television audience of CNN's Larry King Live show that there is "plenty of reason for concern" about cell phones causing brain cancer.

Hold the phone. Is there really cause for concern? Do steps need to be taken, as Milham told Larry King, to avoid a brain cancer epidemic among the millions of cell phone users in this country and around the world?

No, current scientific evidence does not show any negative health effects from the low levels of electromagnetic energy emitted by mobile phones, says the Food and Drug Administration. But some recent studies suggest a possible link between mobile phones and cancer and warrant follow-up, the agency says, to determine with more certainty whether cell phones are safe.

"We don't see a risk looking at currently available data," says David Feigal, M.D., director of FDA's Center for Devices and Radiological Health. "But we need more definite answers about the biological effects of cell phone radiation, and about the more complicated question of whether mobile phones might cause even a small increase in the risk of developing cancer."

Radiation Without Risk?

Like televisions, alarm systems, computers, and all other electrical devices, mobile phones emit electromagnetic radiation. FDA can regulate these devices to ensure that the radiation doesn't pose a health hazard to users, but only once the existence of a public health hazard has been established. (See "It's Not a Food or Medical Product, So Why FDA?")

In the United States, mobile phones operate in a frequency ranging from about 850 to 1900 megahertz (MHz). In that range, the radiation produced is in the form of non-ionizing radiofrequency (RF) energy. This RF energy is different than the ionizing radiation like that from a medical x-ray, which can present a health risk at certain doses.

At high enough levels, RF energy, too, can be harmful, because of its ability to heat living tissue to the point of causing biological damage. In a microwave oven, it's RF energy that cooks the food, but the heat generated by cell phones is small in comparison.

A mobile phone's main source of RF energy is its antenna, so the closer the antenna is to a phone user's head, the greater the person's expected exposure to RF energy.

Because RF energy from a cell phone falls off quickly as distance increases between a person and the radiation source, the safety of mobile phones with an antenna mounted away from the user--like on the outside of a car--has not been called into question. Also not in doubt is the safety of those so-called cordless phones that have a base unit attached to a home's telephone wiring and operate at much lower power levels than cell phones.

Many experts say that no matter how near the cell phone's antenna--even if it's right up against the skull--the six-tenths of a watt of power emitted couldn't possibly affect human health. They're probably right, says John E. Moulder, Ph.D., a cancer researcher and professor of radiation oncology at the Medical College of Wisconsin. It's true, he says, that from the physics standpoint, biological effects from mobile phones are "somewhere between impossible and implausible."

At the same time, Moulder supports further studies into the science of cell phone radiation. "Some people think the power emitted by the phones is so low, it's a silly thing to research. But I think it remains a legitimate area of study."

Studies in Perspective

Some mobile phone users have been diagnosed with brain cancer, and many others who have not used mobile phones have gotten the disease, too. Each year in the United States, brain cancer occurs at a rate of about six new cases per 100,000 people. Among the 100 million Americans who own mobile phones, then, about 6,000 cases of brain cancer would be expected among them in a year, even if they had not used mobile phones.

Scientific studies have focused on the question of whether the statistical risk of getting brain cancer is increased in those who use mobile phones compared to non-users, leaving to the courts the judgment of whether Chris Newman or other individuals would have gotten the disease had they not used a cell phone.

Two types of studies are generally used to investigate suspected cancer causes: epidemiological studies, which look at the incidence of a disease in certain groups of people, and animal studies.

Epidemiological studies are sometimes difficult to carry out in a way that can determine whether a cause-and-effect relationship exists between a single variable in a person's life (in this case, cell phone use) and the person's disease (brain cancer). Some factors that complicate research into the asserted link between cell phones and brain cancer: Brain cancer can take years or even decades to develop, making possible long-term effects of mobile phone use difficult to study; mobile phone technology is ever-evolving; and so many lifestyle factors--even down to the precise position in which a person holds the phone, as well as his or her own anatomy--can affect the extent of radiation exposure.

Studies in animals are easier to control, but entail complications of their own. For example, how should results obtained in rats and mice be interpreted in terms of human health risks? And how can scientists account for the fact that these studies sometimes expose animals to RF almost continuously--up to 22 hours a day--and to whole-body radiation, unlike people's head-only exposure?

While studies generally have shown no link between cell phones and brain cancer, there is some conflicting scientific evidence that may be worth additional study, according to FDA. (See "Studies So Far.")

Based on the evidence so far and possible limitations in some studies' research methods, FDA is closely following ongoing research into whether there might be any association between cell phones and cancer, according to the agency's Feigal.

A long-term study by the government's National Cancer Institute is already under way to examine possible risk factors for brain cancer. It compares past usage of mobile phones (as well as other environmental, lifestyle, and genetic factors) by 800 people with brain tumors compared with 800 others who don't have tumors.

The study, the first part of which is expected to be published early next year, will provide a "snapshot" of what the risks from cell phones could be, says Peter Inskip, Sc.D., one of the study's principal investigators. But this research, he cautions, has its own limitations. For one thing, the study was started in 1994 and it considers radiation exposures from cell phones that occurred between the mid-1980s and 1998. That time frame in large part predates the explosion in the popularity of cell phones, as well as the introduction of digital phones that work on a fraction of the energy compared with older analog varieties.

Recently, FDA announced that it will collaborate with the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association (CTIA) on additional laboratory and human studies of mobile phone safety. A "Cooperative Research and Development Agreement" signed in June provides for research to be conducted by third parties, with industry funding and FDA oversight to help ensure the studies' quality.

Specifically, FDA will identify the scientific questions that merit attention, propose research to address those questions, review study proposals from those interested in doing the research, make recommendations on the selection of researchers, and oversee the development of study design. Once research is begun, FDA will review the progress of ongoing studies, review the results of completed studies, and issue a report to the CTIA.

Beyond this planned research, according to the industry association, there are hundreds of scientific studies completed or in progress around the world to investigate RF's possible health effects, with half of them specifically addressing the frequencies used by wireless phones. FDA is a leading participant in the World Health Organization's International EMF (electric and magnetic fields) project to coordinate research and the harmonization of international radiation standards.

Fear Factor

The new studies may bolster current scientific knowledge, but they will never be able to prove cell phones to be absolutely safe. Proving that cell phones don't cause cancer presents the insurmountable scientific obstacle of trying to prove a negative, Moulder explains. "The closest thing to proving that something is safe--that it doesn't cause cancer--is to try to prove that it does, and fail, and fail enough times and in enough different ways."

Even when scientists are convinced of the safety of a technology--be it the technology of cell phones or of televisions, radios, computers, or microwave ovens--it doesn't necessarily follow that public fears will be put to rest. Lay people interpret scientific evidence differently from scientists, according to risk experts, and the general public may be more likely to be frightened when preliminary research shows a mere possibility of harm.

Scientist Moulder is already confident that cell phone use doesn't increase a person's chance of getting brain cancer--so confident, in fact, that he sees nothing wrong with using a cell phone for even hours each day. "Go right ahead," the cancer researcher says, "but please-please-please don't use it while driving. That's dangerous."

Tamar Nordenberg is a former staff writer for FDA Consumer and now writes for FDA's Food Safety Initiative Program.

53 posted on 06/02/2002 7:35:59 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: handk
Can anyone say "MICROWAVE OVEN"?
57 posted on 06/02/2002 7:44:44 PM PDT by northislander
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