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1 posted on 06/04/2002 1:18:48 PM PDT by thatcher
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Islam and its adhearants are savage subhumans. I used to think all religions were good for people. Then I saw the world trade center. Then instead of seeing practicers of this religion condem this barbaric act they hail it. Well F.You and your religion.
2 posted on 06/04/2002 1:26:26 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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Islam needs a Martin Luther(reformer) and Jesus(Truth) too!
3 posted on 06/04/2002 1:27:18 PM PDT by f.Christian
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The real Islam, I am told, will give freedom and be very modern

LOL! Sounds like a re-vamped social security promise and just as empty.

5 posted on 06/04/2002 1:40:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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Bump...great letters. Got some cheap laughs.
6 posted on 06/04/2002 1:45:55 PM PDT by remaininlight
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Well, I guess this just about hits the nail on the head, in a very un-PC manner! Kudos to Mr Glazov for having the cajones to come out and say what needs to be said.
10 posted on 06/04/2002 1:50:39 PM PDT by gracie1
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A nice piece. In one respect it does not go far enough, in another, it goes too far.

I have pointed out in various forums that Islam was constructed in deliberate opposition to Christianity just at the point when the Church was working out (as a result of the Christological controversies which only us Eastern Orthodox really seem to understand anymore) the modern notion of person. The conception of person which all of Christendom, including its secularist post-Enlightenment Western decay, accepts, and on which modern democracy (as opposed to the Athenian all land-owning men are created equal version) depends is explicitly rejected by Islam.

The Islamic dicta "Allah has no image" and "Allah has no son" set Islam in direct opposition to the "high anthropology" of Christendom, which sees each human being as created in God's image, and worthy of God sending His Son on a rescue mission in which He passed through death to destroy death. Islam is thus also in direct opposition to the diminished version of Christian anthropology (I use the word in the theological sense) held by the American Founders, "All men are created equal, and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights..."

Plainly Christianity is not necessary to a functioning modern democracy: Hindu India, and (once humbled by American military might) Shinto/Buddhist Japan do very well. However, Hinduism, Shinto and Buddhism are merely non-Christian religions, not, like Islam anti-Christian religions.

On the other hand, the author argues that Islam "negates free-will" because it has a strict moral code. This is a silly position. He might also note that although Islam lowered the status of women in the Christian lands it conquered, it did (despite having a rapist for a "prophet") represent an improvement in the status of women over what was found among the heathen Arabs which it initially attracted. (Let us be just in our criticism of our enemies.)

11 posted on 06/04/2002 1:52:06 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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bump
12 posted on 06/04/2002 1:56:03 PM PDT by VOA
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More nonsense. Secular liberalism always is a shock when religious people first encounter it. That's true of Muslims, or Christians, Jews or Hindus. At the heart of every religion there is the idea or at least the possibility of theocracy. This is stronger in Islam than in Christianity, but past generations of Christians would still be appalled by Glazov's ideas. Once secularism and individualism establish themselves they become accepted as obvious and even dogmatic, but prior to that they are an outrage to the moral sense and religious conscience.

We do legislate personal morality, as drug laws, civil rights laws, and the Sunday closing laws, dry counties, age of consent statutes, anti-smoking regulations, and sodomy laws found in some jurisdictions indicate. To be sure, we try to have reasons that are more easily defended against libertarian arguments, but our parents and grandparents weren't so scrupulous about evading libertarian censure. A recognition that legislated morality is part of our heritage too would have made for a more balanced article. Our ancestors had more in common with Muslims than we would like to think, and we ourselves confronted with some new abomination would be likely to ban it first and ask questions later.

17 posted on 06/04/2002 3:16:27 PM PDT by x
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Well said bump.
20 posted on 06/04/2002 5:45:06 PM PDT by lds23
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Interesting title. Van Jenerette wrote an article with the same title back last October. Here is the link to that article which adds a bit to this article in his view of Islam. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/548001/posts

Islam isn't a religion. It is much more. It is a diabolical socio/political/religious philosophy bent upon world domination or destruction. They are the ones that originated the saying "Either you are with us or against us!". Quite frankly I don't understand all the debate.

My solution is brutal but eventually will have to be considered or we as a Non-Islamic people will cease to exist. Fundamental Islam must be destroyed and all who profess to follow it along with it. PERIOD! And it has absolutely nothing to do with religion. It has to do with survival of the fittest.

21 posted on 06/04/2002 6:31:00 PM PDT by ImpBill
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