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Damon Van Dam Testifies Tearfully, Fends Off Lifestyle Attack:Day 3 of Westerfield Trial
CourtTV ^ | June 6, 2002 | CourtTV

Posted on 06/05/2002 11:36:24 PM PDT by FresnoDA

DAY 3: Westerfield On Trial



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: vandam; westerfield
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Two points:

I know a woman who lost her only son about 2 years ago here in San Diego.
She began going to bereavement counseling with Dr. Ken Druck of the San Diego Bereavement Consortium and apparently got to know him well. He was late to one of their meetings after the Danielle murder. He apologized and told her that he had just come from the Van Dams and said it was the wierdest experience had but did not expound on it. She had hoped to get him aside and question him further but had not had a chance.

Now, this man is very well known. He has been to New York after the Attack on September 11th. He has seen some pretty hairy things. So, coming from him, in my opnion, it means something. My friend said that she would not be surprised if he were to testify. We'll see.

For what it's worth, here is a "friend of a friend" statement:

The same woman has a daughter who went to the desert with Westerfield and his daughter years ago when they were in middle school. She said that Westerfield stayed in the RV quiet a bit of the time they were in the desert. If true, it is somewhat in keeping with his behavior of not straying from his RV on the weekend of the 1st and 2nd of February.

861 posted on 06/07/2002 7:00:37 PM PDT by It's me
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To: John Jamieson
Thank you John...

"I don't think he's going to let anything get out of hand – that's not his style," said criminal-defense attorney Peter J. Hughes, who has been practicing in San Diego for several decades. "I tell you right now, he's going to be in charge."

That is awesome... They need to keep the bulldog on a leash.. heh heh

862 posted on 06/07/2002 7:09:27 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: It's me
The same woman has a daughter who went to the desert with Westerfield and his daughter years ago when they were in middle school. She said that Westerfield stayed in the RV quiet a bit of the time they were in the desert. If true, it is somewhat in keeping with his behavior of not straying from his RV on the weekend of the 1st and 2nd of February.

Did they have any more contact with him after that? if so, any more info? What are the chances (odds) of knowing someone that knows him..amazing..

863 posted on 06/07/2002 7:46:01 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson;~Kim4VRWC's
from your Mudd link:

"Not all victims come into court completely pure and totally innocent," Mudd said at the time. "In the real world, occasionally victims bring about their own death."

And now to witness this spectacle-- it's no wonder Mudd was chosen for this case. How appropriate for the vDs-- how sad for Danielle.

I can hear the judge shaming them all, before he pronounces sentence. Will the PC crowd object to his moralizing pronouncements?

864 posted on 06/07/2002 7:54:24 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Are you saying Westerfield might get a fair trial? The man's life is on the line.
865 posted on 06/07/2002 8:00:21 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: It's me
"Wes Hill, a 35-year-old Utah resident who said he has known Westerfield for decades, said his visit Thursday to Westerfield's house was his first since Danielle's disappearance. He said he believes his friend had nothing to do with the girl's disappearance. "

"There's no doubt in my mind," Hill said. "He's just a sweetheart."

866 posted on 06/07/2002 8:04:56 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: It's me
Carmen Genovese said in an interview that if he had a project he would work night and day to finish it. Workaholic?
867 posted on 06/07/2002 8:44:05 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: John Jamieson
Are you saying Westerfield might get a fair trial? The man's life is on the line.

I think the judge will be fairly scathing, by end of trial. I have no idea if the trial will be fair. So far, the vDs and their neighbor haven't been the best witnesses for their daughters' disappearance-- they keep trying to find the possible motive for DWs involvement, in the publics' own sense of personal shame and guilt.

868 posted on 06/07/2002 10:28:39 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
CNN.COM 3/11/2002
Investigators say Danielle was killed by Daniel Alan Westerfield, a 50-year-old engineer who lived just two doors away. The motive was sex, they say. Searches of Westerfield's property revealed child pornography and spots of blood matching Danielle's DNA.

Why are police no longer using his real name? Maybe Peter Damon van Dam discoved Daniel-le wasn't his?

869 posted on 06/07/2002 10:36:17 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
Why are police no longer using his (DW) real name? Maybe Peter Damon van Dam discoved Daniel-le wasn't his?

CNN as well as Court TV and some of the other media are famous for mis-information. DW's name is David, not Daniel.

Why do you think Danielle was DW's bio child? Her birthdate is 9-22-94. The VDs were living in Florida or Texas at that time. They moved to SD in '98 or '99, I believe.

870 posted on 06/09/2002 10:26:04 PM PDT by Karson
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To: Karson
I don't know that I do believe it, but I think it's a possibility.

1. DW has a girlfriend that has a teenage daughter named Danielle. She sent him email photos of her. It could be DW's.

2. Brenda has a daugther named Danielle. She's a known swinger. DW divorced about a year after her birth. Brenda could be the reason.

3. CNN called him Daniel Alan Westerfield. They said they got that from investigators.

4. Danielle is obviously the female version of Daniel.

5. VDs sold their florida house and moved to Texas? about that time. Did VD's go to SD for training for a few months, first?

6. If it's true, Westerfield will use it in his defense which has been quite a secret so far. Feldman has a lot of secrets up his sleeve, I think.

7. There was a recent case where DNA showed several of a man's children were really the wife's fathers!

8. I do alot of family history research. The actual parentage of many (maybe 15%) children is not known.

871 posted on 06/09/2002 11:21:01 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: theirjustdue
Therefore, it does not seem unreasonable to me, to question why they have not been given closer scrutiny than they have recieved, especially given the admitted withholding of information and conflicting testimony surroubnding them.

It's kind of a closed loop. They knew they'd get raked over the coals for their lifestyle, so they lied about it. This caused more suspicion when their lies about lifestyle were uncovered. But this should have all been stuff for prosecution to work out, not defense. Right now it's just looking like a desperate defense tactic to distract the jury, but we'll see.

This is, of course, separate from their non lifestyle-related lies.

872 posted on 06/10/2002 12:28:41 AM PDT by Quila
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To: bvw
wityh the high likelyhood of a sexual motive for the potential crime, that the sexual life of the parents is pertinant and necessary

Consensual sex between adults != child rape and murder.

873 posted on 06/10/2002 12:30:04 AM PDT by Quila
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To: let freedom sing; FresnoDA
Lying King Ping<)))

BvD Testimony June 6 Morning 2

Q. WHAT CAUSED YOU GUYS TO LEAVE THE POOL ROOM? WAS 17 THERE SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON? 18 A. PEOPLE HAD STARTED DANCING AND THE BAND WAS 19 STARTING. 20 Q. WHERE DID YOU GO? 21 A. WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO THE TRUCK THEN. 22 Q. WHO DID? 23 A. DENISE AND BARBARA AND KEITH AND RICH AND I. 24 Q. DID ANYBODY GET INSIDE THE CAR? 25 A. DENISE AND BARBARA AND I. 26 Q. WHO WAS SITTING WHERE, IF YOU REMEMBER? 27 A. I WAS IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT, DENISE WAS ON THE 28 CONSOLE AND BARBARA WAS IN THE PASSENGER SEAT. 3818 1 Q. WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? 2 A. WE SMOKED MARIJUANA. 3 Q. WHO DID? 4 A. DENISE AND BARBARA AND I. 5 Q. WAS ANYTHING GOING ON WITH BARBARA AND KEITH? 6 A. I'M NOT SURE. 7 Q. DO YOU THINK SOMETHING WAS GOING ON? 8 A. I THINK SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. 9 Q. WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS GOING ON? 10 A. I THINK THEY WERE KISSING. 11 Q. WHERE WAS KEITH? 12 A. HE WAS ON THE -- ON BARBARA'S SIDE OF THE TRUCK. 13 Q. INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE TRUCK? 14 A. OUTSIDE. 15 Q. WHERE WAS BARBARA? 16 A. IN THE PASSENGER SEAT. 17 Q. WHY DO YOU JUST THINK THEY WERE AND DON'T KNOW FOR 18 SURE? 19 A. I WAS TALKING TO RICH. HE WAS ON MY SIDE OF THE 20 CAR AND I WASN'T REALLY PAYING THAT MUCH ATTENTION. 21 Q. WAS ANYTHING GOING ON WITH YOU AND RICH? 22 A. NO. 23 Q. CAN YOU ESTIMATE FOR US HOW LONG YOU GUYS WERE OUT 24 THERE? 25 A. MAYBE 10 MINUTES. 26 Q. THEN WHERE DID YOU GO? 27 A. WENT BACK IN. 28 Q. TO WHERE? 3819 1 A. DAD'S CAFE.

BvD Testimony June 6, afternoon 2

7 Q. WHAT WAS DENISE DOING, IF ANYTHING, WHILE -- YOU 8 TOLD US ON DIRECT EXAMINATION, I THINK, THAT BARBARA AND KEITH 9 WERE KISSING. 10 DO YOU RECALL THAT? 11 A. WHERE ARE WE? 12 Q. BACK IN THE BAR -- I'M SORRY, AT THE BAR IN THE 13 PARKING LOT IN YOUR VEHICLE SMOKING, KEITH AND RICHARD THERE, 14 THE MUSIC'S ON, THE WINDOWS ARE DOWN, HOW'S THAT? 15 A. OKAY. 16 Q. NOW, I FORGOT THE QUESTION. WERE KEITH AND BARBARA 17 KISSING? 18 A. I CAN'T REMEMBER. 19 Q. WELL, AT SOME POINT IN THAT -- WE'LL CALL IT AN 20 INTERLUDE, WERE THEY KISSING? 21 A. I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER. 22 Q. DO YOU REMEMBER TELLING THE POLICE THAT THEY WERE 23 FRENCH KISSING IN A VERY INTENSE MANNER AT THAT POINT? 24 A. NO, I DON'T REMEMBER. 25 Q. AND BY YOUR ANSWER DO YOU MEAN TO SAY IT DIDN'T 26 HAPPEN OR YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT IT HAPPENED? 27 A. I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT IT HAPPENED.

874 posted on 06/12/2002 8:13:30 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: FresnoDA
I dont believe him. I believe the murderer did dump her body, but that the dad and mom were in on it. I may get flamed here, but thats my gut instinct.
875 posted on 06/12/2002 8:16:00 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
NO flames from me Red!! Gut instinct says that if the VD's had no scruples, had no morals, had no boundries, had not compassion...then maybe anything is possible....ZZIIPPP..Flame Proof Suit, ON!
876 posted on 06/12/2002 10:28:01 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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