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Global Warming Fears Must Cool Down
Fox News ^ | 6/7/02 | Steven Milloy

Posted on 06/07/2002 7:42:42 AM PDT by purplegirl

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:33:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

First, protesters were surprised and routed by free-market advocates at ExxonMobil's annual shareholder meeting in Dallas. Then, President Bush backhandedly dismissed the Environmental Protection Agency's sneaky attempt to embarrass his administration about its global warming policy.

And, of course, the global warming-loving media grossly erred in reporting on both events.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: epa; exxonmobile; protesters

1 posted on 06/07/2002 7:42:43 AM PDT by purplegirl
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To: purplegirl
The anti-corporate protesters, you see, arrived in a Ford Econoline, a full-sized passenger
van rated by the EPA at a rip-roaring 13 miles per gallon. This despite one of
the protesters telling CNSNews.com: "We should burn all [SUVs]. They are horrible, they are useless."


Hypocrites all.
The hybrids made by Toyota and Honda are NOT selling even in enviro-conscious Los Angeles.

My definition of environmentalists is someone who wants everyone to use
public transportation, except themselves.
2 posted on 06/07/2002 7:47:07 AM PDT by VOA
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To: purplegirl
Kyoto Paradox I:
Climate is an extremely complex, chaotic, coupled, non-linear, time-dependent system
with massive, external, naturally-occuring inputs and wide variability in measurables.
Therefore,
To say we can control it by tweaking a small set of factors is ridiculous on its face.

Kyoto Paradox II:
Climate is an extremely complex, chaotic, coupled, non-linear, time-dependent system
with massive, external, naturally-occuring inputs and wide variability in measurables.
Therefore,
You can no more successfully predict the outcome of doing something than you can of
not doing something. In other words, the impact of trying to "fix" a climate "problem"
is as unpredictable as the impact of ignoring it.
3 posted on 06/07/2002 8:35:17 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: purplegirl
MODEL BUILDING:
Climate models are filled with assumptions, bad data, tweaks, simplifications, etc.
These parameters can be "tweaked" to force the model to show any desired result.

Projections of climate change are based on models and assumptions which
"are not only unknown, but unknowable within ranges relevant for policy-making"

Models fail to adequately handle clouds, water vapour, aerosols, precipitation,
ocean currents, solar effects, complex weather patterns, etc.

Model simulation of surface temperature appears to be little more than fortuitous
curve-fitting rather than a demonstration of human influence on global climate.

Temperature rise projections this century are "unknown and unknowable".

"Climate models [are] projections, story lines, [more aptly termed] fairy tales."
-- Hartwig Volz, geophysicist, RWE Research Laboratory, Germany

"Global warming projections [are] completely unrealistic...assuming extreme scenarios
of population growth and fossil fuel consumption"
-- S. Fred Singer, atmospheric physicist, University of Virginia, Environmental Policy Project

"The balance of evidence suggests that there has been no appreciable warming since 1940.
This would indicate that the human effects on climate must be quite small."
-- S. Fred Singer, atmospheric physicist, University of Virginia, Environmental Policy Project

PREDICTING THE PAST:
Climate models, which serve as the basis for long-term climate predictions,
have clearly failed when tested against observed climate data.

Models fail to reproduce the known difference in trends between the
lower troposphere and surface temperatures over the past 20 years.

They don't show the actual amount of temperature change at the Earth's surface
Models can't predict the recent past, let alone the long-term future.

Antarctica has been cooling since 1966, directly contradicting model results
that suggest that warming will be more pronounced in the Earth's polar regions.

-- Nature magazine

the Antarctic ice sheet is expanding rather than shrinking,
contrary to what global-warming enthusiasts would have us believe.

-- Science magazine

REALITY:
Mt. Pinatubo, (just one of hundreds of active volcanoes) during a single "small"
eruption in 1991, emitted 20 Megatons of SO2. Compare this with the
18 megatons of SO2 emissions for all of the US in 1995.
4 posted on 06/07/2002 8:38:41 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: My Identity
As long as whacko climate models do NOT contain accurate solar cycles amidst their variables - they may as well be chanting,

"Double, double toil and trouble; ...
Eye of newt and toe of frog, "

for all the relevancy their research actually has to global warming.

And did you hear Rush say yesterday that Rove told him that greenhouse gases had been tracked since the Industrial Revolution and of course were much worse now - or words to that effect?! Who, I ask, was recording green house gases in the 1800s? Dumbing down has reached farther than we knew.

6 posted on 06/07/2002 9:09:34 AM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Let's Roll
Who, I ask, was recording green house gases in the 1800s? Dumbing down has reached farther than we knew.

Do you suppose that phlogistine is considered a greenhouse gas?

This is hilarious. Newspeople, lawyers, presidential advisors, and agenda-driven psuedo-scientists need to restrain their natural impulse to pontificate on matters scientific.

7 posted on 06/07/2002 9:20:56 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: purplegirl
I did my part. Yesterday took home my new early release 2003 Ford Expedition generously rated at 13 mpg city and 17 mpg fly-over country. Those enviro-wimps got nothin' on me.
8 posted on 06/07/2002 9:27:37 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: VOA
The hybrids made by Toyota and Honda are NOT selling even in enviro-conscious Los Angeles.

Last I heard they don't want to sell many because they lose $1,500-$2,000 per vehicle...

9 posted on 06/07/2002 10:28:07 AM PDT by rohry
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To: VOA
the hybrids made by Toyota and Honda are NOT selling even in enviro-conscious Los Angeles.

Not quite true... there are two of them in our parking lot (North Carolina). They're actually not that bad for commuting -- mileage isn't as high as you would expect. My VW Jetta TDI gets better commuting mileage and diesel is cheaper.

Just because the collectivist twits are pushing them doesn't mean they are bad cars.... and I think collectivists mostly drive big SUVs and more expensive foreign cars.

10 posted on 06/07/2002 10:31:48 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: Ole Okie
They made pictures in 1953. That was almost 50 years ago.

"Everest Melting? High Signs of Climate Change"

Stentor Danielson

National Geographic News

June 5, 2002

A team sponsored by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) has found signs that the landscape of Mount Everest has changed significantly since Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay first conquered the peak in 1953. A primary cause is the warming global climate. But the growing impact of tourism is also taxing the world's highest mountain.

The team found that the glacier that once came close to Hillary and Norgay's first camp has retreated three miles (five kilometers). A series of ponds that used to be near Island Peak—so-called because it was then an island in a sea of ice—had merged into a long lake.

"It is clear that global warming is emerging as one, if not the, biggest threat to mountain areas," says Roger Payne, sports and development director at the International Mountaineering and Climbing Federation (UIAA), and one of the expedition's leaders. "The evidence of climate change was all around us, from huge scars gouged in the landscapes by sudden, glacial floods to the lakes swollen by melting glaciers. But it is the observations of some of the people we met, many of whom have lived in the area all their lives, that really hit home," he said in a statement released by UNEP.

The expedition, made up of seven people, climbed Island Peak before returning to its headquarters in Kathmandu on Saturday.

11 posted on 06/07/2002 3:48:22 PM PDT by honeymagnolia
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To: honeymagnolia
A primary cause is the warming global climate.

Interesting. Now Mt. Everest is somehow able to reach out and sample global temperatures? If Everest is melting it is due to local warming, which usually has absolutely nothing to do with global trends.
12 posted on 06/08/2002 12:57:32 AM PDT by self_evident
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