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Vermont Governor Outlines National Health Plan
Reuters ^ | June 7, 2002 | Julie Rovner

Posted on 06/11/2002 10:20:19 AM PDT by joebellis

Vermont Governor Outlines National Health Plan


Fri Jun 7, 5:38 PM ET

By Julie Rovner

PRINCETON, New Jersey (Reuters Health) - The United States can have universal insurance coverage without a disruptive overhaul of the nation's healthcare system, but those who can afford it will have to pay more, Vermont Democratic Governor Howard Dean told a health policy conference here Thursday night.

Most politicians over the next 2 years "are going to be playing the blame game," said Dean, a physician who has not hidden his aspiration to run for president in 2002. "They're going to blame the evil hospitals, or the evil doctors, or the evil HMOs or the evil drug companies."

But the real culprit in the nation's healthcare mess is the public, he said. "The reason healthcare costs are going up as fast as they are is we want everything that can be done for us and for our loved ones and we want someone else to pay the bill."

Dean outlined a three-part proposal to the annual Princeton Conference, sponsored by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation's Council on Health Care Economics and Policy.

For children, he said the rest of the nation should emulate Vermont, which already has essentially universal coverage for those under age 18 through the Medicaid and State Children's Health Insurance Programs. Under his plan, states would be required to cover everyone through age 22, "because those between 18 and 22 are not that expensive, and if you give them a voucher they're likely to use it to buy a Harley," Dean said.

In exchange for the new requirement on states, the federal government would pick up the entire cost of so-called "dual eligibles," older Americans who are simultaneously eligible for Medicare and Medicaid. Because that population is far more expensive than children and young adults, "states get a great deal," he said.

For those over 65, Dean would add an outpatient prescription drug benefit to Medicare, "paid for easily by rolling back the totally unnecessary tax cuts" passed last year. But Dean warned that the drug benefit "won't be a Cadillac. We're going to have to have co-payments, deductibles, and an emphasis on generic drugs."

For those in between, Dean said he would maintain the current employer-based system, but add subsidies to help small businesses, the self-employed, and part-time workers not eligible for coverage at work. Again, he said, coverage might not be as generous as many would prefer, with deductibles and co-payments designed to "reconnect patients with the cost" of healthcare.

Such a proposal, he said "gets very close to solving the problem" of the uninsured, without "taking on every interest group at the same time, as President Clinton (news - web sites)'s plan did," and avoiding the radical changes that the insurance industry used to exploit Americans' fears in 1994.

Dean said he is convinced that the American public will respond if policymakers tell them the truth with respect. "People are not stupid," he said. "They get the problem. They get the connection between wanting all the medical care they can consume and their premiums going up."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004election; healthcare; socialism; socializedmedicine
Quoting Dean "The United States can have universal insurance coverage without a disruptive overhaul of the nation's healthcare system, but those who can afford it will have to pay more."

So what else is new? I already pay taxes to support 11.2 non-dependents. He (and is socialist buddies) thinks that I should support a few more.

1 posted on 06/11/2002 10:20:20 AM PDT by joebellis
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To: joebellis
The United States can have universal insurance coverage without a disruptive overhaul of the nation's healthcare system, but those who can afford it will have to pay more

Ya...it's called communism. Karl Marx would be very proud indeed.

2 posted on 06/11/2002 10:23:12 AM PDT by mconder
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To: joebellis
Hey Gov, pitch this to Ben & Jerrys and leave the rest of us alone.
3 posted on 06/11/2002 10:26:53 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: joebellis
The United States can have universal insurance coverage without a disruptive overhaul of the nation's healthcare system, but those who can afford it will have to pay more.

I'm already paying $729 a month for health insurance for me, my wife and my three-year-old daughter. How much more do they want from me to pay for people who are NOT my responsibility?

4 posted on 06/11/2002 10:28:01 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: joebellis
"The reason healthcare costs are going up as fast as they are is we want everything that can be done for us and for our loved ones and we want someone else to pay the bill."

There are three alternate programs the Federal government isn't telling you about. 1) Pay for it yourself 2) Receive help from a charity and 3) Go without.

5 posted on 06/11/2002 10:31:25 AM PDT by mconder
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To: Maceman
"The reason healthcare costs are going up as fast as they are is we want everything that can be done for us and for our loved ones and we want someone else to pay the bill." - he nails it and sounds like a republican, then comes out with a stalin era plan. Go figure.
6 posted on 06/11/2002 10:32:14 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Maceman
You already are paying for other people, why do you think they are so much now? All my Doctor friends say we already have socialist medical care. If you get hammered up, you just walk up to the door, covered or not, and you get fixed up. The costs are already passed on to those who pay. If they were covered by some plan, it wouldn't be nearly as much that is passed on to you. At least Dean is thinking of a way to have some way of containing the costs.
7 posted on 06/11/2002 10:36:28 AM PDT by Vis Numar
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To: joebellis
Let's get the NE states to succeed. Who needs these communists. What would the men of the 1770's have done with these traitors? Take what happened when the people on the Mayflower tried to make the "commune" prosperous w/o capitalism. Only when they gave individuals a right to keep their products did they prosper.
8 posted on 06/11/2002 10:37:35 AM PDT by Digger
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To: joebellis
"But the real culprit in the nation's healthcare mess is the public, he said. "The reason healthcare costs are going up as fast as they are is we want everything that can be done for us and for our loved ones and we want someone else to pay the bill.""

This is simply human nature and is also the reason socialism fails. There's no incentive to produce and every incentive to consume. So, contrary to the idiotic Governor, the solution is not a more "reasonable" socialism, with more reasonable people running it (see Governor Dean), but to get the socialism out and personal responsibility in. We've got to reconnect people's own money in purchasing healthcare. The best way to do this is with Medical Savings Accounts. But NOOOOO, Dean chooses more socialism with himself in charge.

9 posted on 06/11/2002 10:47:48 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: joebellis
Most politicians over the next 2 years "are going to be playing the blame game," said Dean, a physician who has not hidden his aspiration to run for president in 2002.

Great. Just what we need. Someone running for President, wanting to socialize 1/3 of our nation's economy, and he doesn't even know when the next election is. Wonderful.

Homeschool to raise tomorrow's leaders!

10 posted on 06/11/2002 10:54:43 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Time to boycott the cheese!
11 posted on 06/11/2002 10:56:38 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: joebellis
Dean, a physician who has not hidden his aspiration to run for president in 2002.

President of what?

12 posted on 06/11/2002 11:00:54 AM PDT by tenderstone jr.
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To: tenderstone jr.
UVM?
13 posted on 06/11/2002 11:09:21 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: joebellis
The democrats can't be serious. This Dean guy is seriously thinking about running for president?
14 posted on 06/11/2002 11:10:13 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: joebellis
Oh to be a Democrat, take from one pocket and put it in another. Makes one wonder how their thought process works.
15 posted on 06/11/2002 11:14:53 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: joebellis
Liberalspeak: "The United States can have universal insurance coverage without a disruptive overhaul of the nation's healthcare system, but those who can afford it will have to pay more..."

Translation: "You get to pay both your own health costs plus those of some life-long transfer payment bum who doesn't want to work but votes Democratic..."

16 posted on 06/11/2002 11:57:18 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
We'll give you health care. We'll just let Bill Gates and Steve Case pay it for you.
17 posted on 06/11/2002 12:02:02 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: *Socialized Medicine
*Index Bump
18 posted on 06/11/2002 12:30:09 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: joebellis
This man is an idiot, a communist, or both. Over regulation and govmint interference is ALWAYS the problem.....
19 posted on 06/11/2002 1:42:50 PM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike
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