Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: vannrox

If these 7,000 positions were awarded the way they are in, say, Saudia Arabia -- where your family name is 'Saud' or you don't get the job -- I suppose this fellow wouldn't sound like such a whiny loser.

He talks about "elites" as though these folks just aren't like you and me, because it's impossible to crack through the Invisible Wall and get one of those 7,000 jobs unless you're one of them. Oh, horsefeathers. Our very own World's Richest Man is a college dropout. The previous president of the United States -- may he rot in Hell -- grew up in such decidedly poor surroundings that even today people refer to him as "white trash."

Yeah, we have a few families that the media like to wave in front of us as some sort of hereditary nobility, but so what? To walk around thinking that opportunity in America is closed to all but a select few is the dumbest, most self-defeating claptrap I can imagine. Elites, schmelites.


18 posted on 06/11/2002 5:47:22 PM PDT by Nick Danger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Nick Danger
Elites in this country aren't born. They're promoted from within.

Slick may have been born white trash, but he spent decades at major universities and working within the democrat hiarchy to get where he got. What that got him and his wife, was influence over the media, and hence, the rest of us via the useful idiots who followed them.

The rest of us, who were more interested in making a buck, or in enjoyable professions like my own byte mashing, have little or no influence. That's not to say that had I chose to gain influence, I could not have. But I don't have it now, whether or not I deserve it as some kind of "right" is errelevant. The bottom line is, some number of people, maybe somewhere around 7000 of them, control the country. And I'm at their mercy.

20 posted on 06/11/2002 6:05:00 PM PDT by narby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]

To: Nick Danger
He talks about "elites" as though these folks just aren't like you and me, because it's impossible to crack through the Invisible Wall and get one of those 7,000 jobs unless you're one of them. Oh, horsefeathers. Our very own World's Richest Man is a college dropout. The previous president of the United States -- may he rot in Hell -- grew up in such decidedly poor surroundings that even today people refer to him as "white trash."

Yeah, we have a few families that the media like to wave in front of us as some sort of hereditary nobility, but so what? To walk around thinking that opportunity in America is closed to all but a select few is the dumbest, most self-defeating claptrap I can imagine. Elites, schmelites.

Nick, you could use a good dose of Vilfredo Pareto, Gaetano Mosca, and James Burnham. Like too many conservatives, you have bought into the Horatio Alger myth, and failed to grasp how elites function in society. Pay some attention to some intelligent conservatives who have studied the question of elites in great detail; had all conservatives done so 50-60 years ago, we might not now be in the mess we are in. We can't very well fight a phenomenon we do not understand (elites).

For one thing, your understanding of elites is rather shallow and media oriented: the real elites aren't well known to the general public and don't often show up on TV. Bill Clinton isn't a member of any ruling elite; he was, rather, an employee of the ruling elite. It was no accident that this "poor white trash" got a Rhodes scholarship (no Horatio Alger, he). Clinton's inherent corruption and corruptability made him an especially useful tool, since there was no chance of Clinton ever standing up to his "betters" and asserting his principles (if he had any) or his better judgement (if he had one), because the elite "had the goods" on Clinton since before he entered politics. Likewise Bill Gates is not a member of the ruling elite, although with his money, he could become one if he wanted to, and if he played by the elite's unwritten rules. But Gates isn't a political animal.

23 posted on 06/11/2002 6:44:29 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson