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To: sleavelessinseattle
Here's a question for you: when a convict is released at the end of his/her term, have they paid their debt or not? It sounds as though you would argue they have not, and never can.
10 posted on 06/12/2002 1:30:33 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Here's a question for you: when a convict is released at the end of his/her term, have they paid their debt or not?

(1)If you believe that one is sent to prison for punishment and that the sentences are fairly given and not influenced by state budgets or prison over-population, then the answer would be yes.

(2) If you believe that a person is sent to prison to be rehabilitated or at least changed to the point that they are no longer a threat to society, then your answer would be yes. (3) On the otherhand, if the released prisoner is likely to re-offend (which is a very high probability event), then they haven't been "rehabilitated" and the answer is no.

(4)If when a prisoner is released they are released "early" and on probation, then the answer is no, they have not paid their debt.

In the real world, I think alternatives 3&4 are more common . I favor 3 strikes and you are out. I favor the NRA gun violation enforcement program as well. The numbers given early in the article indicate that the average sentence under the program for the 173 sentenced felons was just 5.2 years per person. If all they were guilty of besides possession of a firearm by a felon was drug use, then 5.2 years is a good amount of time to get sober & straight.

15 posted on 06/12/2002 1:49:39 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: NittanyLion
Here's a question for you: when a convict is released at the end of his/her term, have they paid their debt or not?

Apparently, it's kind of like having paid for Windows XP....

16 posted on 06/12/2002 1:52:19 PM PDT by Grut
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To: NittanyLion
Here's a question for you: when a convict is released at the end of his/her term, have they paid their debt or not? It sounds as though you would argue they have not, and never can.

That is an excellent question...We are in a society bound by laws in order to make it a safe place to raise children and pursue happiness...bearing in mind that I have reservations about evidentiary issues and extenuating circumstances in felony sentencing and Exile Guidelines since I'm speaking off the cuff, I say that a convicted violent felon is held to a higher standard of public responsibility for the rest of his days for having violated another person with violence...

Mike Tyson is VIOLENT...Even on Camera this RAPIST Drew blood from an opponent with his teeth...Would YOU give him a gun??? EVER? As a CCW holder, I am legally bound to leave a scene of violence...an unarmed person can throw a punch in self-defence, but I will be charged if I draw a gun if I'm only verbally threatened...This scenario happened to me in my beloved Seattle, just last week, Two gangster wannabes tried to get me to take them both on...I knew my responsibilities...allowed them to call me every profanity under the books, HATE CRIME, and Waited to see if they were going to assault me...Apparently I look bigger when seen up close since when I leaned in to the leader and quietly said..."Don't HURT yourself, son." He forgot why he had run across the street with his little yappy Homes to intimidate me...and I turned and continued on my way...The system limps along...nuff said...I ALWAYS forget to mention to these rodents in person..."You must like to have sex with other men to wanna be such a Gansta...B!TCH" As I got home I went "DOH!!!" Alls well that ends well, I guess.

19 posted on 06/12/2002 2:19:20 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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