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"Today, those who stand for freedom, justice, the rule of law, self-government and the moral principles of the Bible are not part of "the establishment." We're the rebels. By the world's standards, we're the renegades."

i could add a few names that we've been called: whackos, malcontents, disrupters, tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, bushbashers, blame america firsters....

1 posted on 06/13/2002 8:27:39 AM PDT by christine
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2 posted on 06/13/2002 8:35:24 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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BTTT
3 posted on 06/13/2002 8:37:05 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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i could add a few names that we've been called: whackos, malcontents, disrupters, tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, bushbashers, blame america firsters....

...America-hater...

Rather Orwellian that those who advocate a Constitutional Republic in the United States of America should be called those names.

Recent events have revealed that those who want to abandon the Constitution and find exceptions in time of crisis are those who really didn't believe in it to begin with.

Hear that, Sean Hannity?

4 posted on 06/13/2002 8:37:22 AM PDT by Eagle Eye
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Today's Democratic and Republican Parties are the "revolutionaries" since they have effectively overthrown our government. The Farah's of world (myself included) simply want to restore our Constitutional Republic.
5 posted on 06/13/2002 8:37:56 AM PDT by BillofRights
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1) [T]he breakdown of the institutions of marriage and family; the inability of many to distinguish between right and wrong;

2)[T]he consolidation of power in Washington and in the executive branch; the breakdown in the rule of law; the usurpation of power by unaccountable supra-national agencies; infringements on personal freedoms

I broke the list into two separate groups to illustrate a point. Group one factors tend to cause group two consequences.

To paraphrase one of the founders: those who will not govern themselves will be governed by tyrants.

9 posted on 06/13/2002 8:42:35 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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Why I'm not a conservative

That's wonderful, Joseph. I am proud of you. However, you forgot to tell us exactly what you ARE.

I'm for all the things that you are for. We've just not reached the boiling point as a nation where we can list out our grievances and make a call to arms.

I'll tell you what, Joseph. You find a way to get the sheeple interested in returning to our Constitutional roots, and I'll join in behind you. Until that time, I am doing what I can -- teaching my kids about our founding, our fore-fathers, and how to get back there. It is practical, and it defeats the leftists at their own game.

By mushing the minds of children over the last 30 years, the left has advanced their socialist agenda.

We MUST raise the next generation of leaders for this country, if it is to be saved.

Homeschool bump!

PS - visit pocket declaration.org to see how to get our children to read the Declaration of Independence. We have to get our children to understand Liberty at an early age.

10 posted on 06/13/2002 8:47:36 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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"freedom fighters" Probably not the best choice of words post Sept. 11.
11 posted on 06/13/2002 8:50:24 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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I agree! Bump
14 posted on 06/13/2002 9:02:51 AM PDT by Osprey
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"Conservatives have no stomach for fighting – the kind of fighting it takes to restore real freedom to America."

Once a 'conservative' gets elected, all the talk about freedom gets shoved down the memory hole and suddenly the importance of government power to control people's behavior becomes important. In the last couple of elections, 'conservatives' have lost, because they opposed the lottery and opposed medical marijuana. Pro-freedom, pro-personal responsibility ideas get trashed in favor of some religio-moral crusade.

'Conservatives' can win, if they become pro-freedom and stay in power as long as they act on that pro-freedom agenda. "Stay out da' Bushes". George H W Bush experienced the biggest political collapse in American history. Why? He raised taxes, he signed the quota bill, he signed the ADA, he signed the Clean Air Act. He supported the out of control IRS and BATF. He backed the jack-booted thugs instead of the freedom of the American People. He went from 91% approval rating to getting 34%, while people desperately tried to turn him around on the freedom issue.

George W Bush is heading down the same path. The only thing holding him up is the war. Dubya said the 9/11 attacks were attacks on our freedom. Well, shouldn't our response be more freedom? Where is it? Where's our liberty going? He's doing nothing, but going along with the liberals. He's to the left of Feinstein and Boxer on terrorist profiling for Pete's sake.

16 posted on 06/13/2002 9:09:09 AM PDT by Kermit
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"Today, those who stand for freedom, justice, the rule of law, self-government and the moral principles of the Bible are not part of "the establishment." We're the rebels. By the world's standards, we're the renegades."

As the article points out, we need to have the courage of Peter and Paul and the other disciples, and that of great leaders like George Washington, to re-establish our country as it should be. As Christ feared no scorn, neither should we.

17 posted on 06/13/2002 9:10:38 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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I believe Hayek in his Constitution Of liberty had a chapter, the last I believe, that was titled Why I am not a Conservative. His lament was the loss of the term liberal to the left. Liberal for most of the 19 th and early in the 20 th century was calling cry of human and economic rights of individuals and private voluntary associations. Alas the word was stolen perverted and sold like snake oil to the masses.
20 posted on 06/13/2002 9:21:48 AM PDT by TAP ONLINE
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The time that "conservative" meant something was when there was a consensus about right and wrong. Since that is gone, we have "conservative" people who are for abortion, for cloning, for selling babyparts, for euthanasia, for federalizing everything, etc.

Rather than calling myself "conservative," I simply give my positions on the issues at hand: pro-life (by which I mean the law should punish abortion as homicide), against the Sixteenth, Seventeenth, and Nineteenth Amendments, etc.

22 posted on 06/13/2002 9:25:26 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Sign me up!
23 posted on 06/13/2002 9:26:37 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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whackos, malcontents, disrupters, tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, bushbashers, blame america firsters.

Its good to know that I am in good company afterall. All eyes must be on the Constitution or we're screwed.

25 posted on 06/13/2002 9:36:10 AM PDT by GingisK
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Try Constitutionalist, on for size, I tend to refer to myself in that manner more and more, as the right lurches left. Blackbird.
28 posted on 06/13/2002 9:40:08 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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Thanks for the thread, Christine....Farah makes the point very well.

I no longer refer to myself as a conservative when discussing politics because the word has been so bastardized that anything to the right of Teddy the Swimmer Kennedy is considered conservative!

Think I'll just hang my hat on Constitutionalist. If the country were to get back on track of what the Founders gave us, it would be perfect. You see, I disagree with Churchill and others about our Constitution not being perfect but its the best the world's had to date. Our Founders were brilliant--they planned for the future better than any yahoo in the political or academic arena today.....they knew times could change--they included the Constitutional Amendment process to handle this.

I get a kick out of the mentally deficient who bitch that 'the CA process is too hard or its impossible'.....yeah.....right....that's exactly why it is set up the way it is! Changing governing policies should be a hell of a lot more difficult than changing a pair of shorts every morning {or evening}!!

As much as I would hate to see it, if Carter had managed to get Congress to write up a Constitutional Amendment authorizing the federales to jump into education, and it had gone through the process and was accepted, I could live with it--because they followed the Constitution I so love and respect. NOTE: I would still enocurage everyone to homeschool regardless because government is incompetent.

30 posted on 06/13/2002 9:42:20 AM PDT by Rowdee
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>> With all due respect to my "conservative" friends, I find the description detestable, extremely unflattering, simplistic and an insult. <<

So I guess the word "conservative" really ticks you off, eh? WAHHHHHHH!

This article seems so be founded on the asinine idea that the term "conservative" refers to people who support (or at least are weak in the face of):

the breakdown of the institutions of marriage and family;
the inability of many to distinguish between right and wrong;
the consolidation of power in Washington and in the executive branch;
the breakdown in the rule of law;
the usurpation of power by unaccountable supra-national agencies;
infringements on personal freedoms

That doesn't sound like the conservatives I know. We are not "for" unconstitutional government and tyranny, we are for fighting it.

>>I'm not a "conservative" because I see precious little left in this world worth conserving.<<

Well, why don't you dig a hole, jump in, and pull the hole in after you? I do see things worth conserving and preserving. The Constitution, Liberty, Freedom, Rule of Law and Self-Government.

This article seems to be a blistering rant against the word "conservative." To what end? Okay, bid deal, you don't like the word "conservative." You're a "revolutionary". Or you're "Big Bird." Sheesh, lay off the term willya? Big deal.

My suggestion: quit aiming your cannon at a label, which is all it is.

33 posted on 06/13/2002 9:43:55 AM PDT by SerpentDove
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To practice self-government again, we must have a people capable of self-government.

We've already lost that battle to the disciples and heirs of Gramsci and the cultural marxists that now dominate ALL of our major institutions.

And that is why we're headed for another American Civil War.

39 posted on 06/13/2002 9:51:55 AM PDT by Noumenon
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i could add a few names that we've been called: whackos, malcontents, disrupters, tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, bushbashers, blame america firsters....

BTTT

54 posted on 06/13/2002 11:36:15 AM PDT by Kathleen
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My reply to your post #1 Christine: Let's consider those "insults" - compliments!
56 posted on 06/13/2002 11:53:50 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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