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To: VOA
The article states:

"Midwest Express either found hotels for those who missed their flights or provided transportation home.

Bailey says that screening the names against the list is standard operating procedure. "Everyone who travels is now cleared through this list."

Where did this list come from?

One U.S. Marshal said the FBI compiles the list, and an FBI agent said it "comes out of headquarters."

The law empowers Magaw to "establish policies and procedures requiring air carriers to use information from government agencies to identify individuals on passenger lists who may be a threat to civil aviation and, if such an individual is identified, to notify appropriate law enforcement agencies and prohibit the individual from boarding an aircraft."

The TSA has taken that power and run with it.

Turk adds that he doesn't know how large the list is, "and if I did, I couldn't tell you."

VOA, you then go on and state in your reply:

But...until I read/hear of a lawsuit, I'll just guess it was a bunch of granola-munching hemp-vest peace activists who set off some alarm and prompted the detainment."

You have to wait until you "read/hear of a lawsuit" to know if their constitutional guaranteed rights were not violated?

First the stockholder's of the airlines 5th amendment rights were violated because the airline was required to pay the expense of motel and travel expenses because of the hardshipped caused by their government to their customers.

Second, the "list" and all government actions using the "list" violates the 4th amendment.

It is your lack of knowledge of the Bill of Rights and as well as way too many other citizens, that our government can blantantly violate our rights and it is so nonchalantly dismissed by a statement, "until I read/hear of a lawsuit."

One day you will wake up to a violation of a right that is important to you and you will wonder how it happened.

At the risk of hyperbole, that is what happened to the Jews in Germany.

17 posted on 06/16/2002 9:32:02 AM PDT by tahiti
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To: tahiti
You have to wait until you "read/hear of a lawsuit" to know if their constitutional
guaranteed rights were not violated?


No.
But I also have been around long enough to not take what is printed by "The Progessive"
as the end-all and sum of all truth. What was printed my be the truth, part-truth, or total distortion.

That's why I suggest (not flippantly) that a lawsuit is in order...even though I generally
am reticent about the pursuit of legal remedies.

As I said in post #16, this group may not help themselves (quickly) with a lawsuit,
but they may clear the path for those who come after them.

It may not reflect a perfect world, but this group needs to take to heart a maxim:
"If you don't defend your honor, it will be presumed that you have none."

Oh, and if this airline is a publically-traded company, they can buy some shares,
and make their displeasure known at the annual stockholder meetings.
19 posted on 06/16/2002 9:52:18 AM PDT by VOA
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To: tahiti
The point of the matter is that anyone can print any rumor, innuendo, and lie they want to. If something is unconstitutional then a court of law should be convened to hear the case, not the rule of the mobocracy. Allowing one's blood pressure to rise based on an article in the disreputable and subversive "Progressive" is hardly a responsible response.
20 posted on 06/16/2002 9:59:58 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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