The mystery of John Doe No. 2 (Video Camera Recorded John Doe No. 2)

Salon.Com ^ | June 9, 2001 | David Neiwert

[PJ-Comix]

Luckily, the Subway shop actually had a video camera recording that day's events. When Van Buren contacted the FBI, agents interviewed everyone working in the shop on April 18. And when they were done, they confiscated the video recorded that day.

OK, so WHERE is that videotape? Is it as "mysteriously missing" as the 7-20-93 White House parking lot videotape?

[marty60]

It would be interesting to see the picture of JD 2 and this Padilla guy.

[VOA]

Just a ping...even Salon.com gets into the "Who Was John Doe #2" act.

I haven't time to read the article now...but even some of the writers at Salon
will occassionally turn out some good reporting...

[Ann Archy]

I forget....HOW did McVeigh get the Truck Bomb to go off without getting himself killed? Timer?

Where exactly did he buy the jet fuel (kerosene?) from? Did he put it right into the barrels of his Ryder Truck or did he BUY barrels of the fuel?

And WHY was he kept after the State Trooper stoped him for a missing tag??

Where was Terry Nichol when the bomb went off?

Just a couple of refresher course questions.

[MrB]

Your side-by-side is provided in another thread about McVeigh and Padilla in Ft Lauderdale at the same time.
The composite picture is an absolute dead ringer for padilla.

[eno_]

The article was OK except for the clunker about ANFO explosives: ANFO is a "low explosive." It sure does explode, but not with anything like the energy of a military munition of the same weight. Upgrading the chemistry will not weave a high explosive silk purse from an ANFO sow's ear. Yeah, you can improve it, but it isn't going to totally transform it for some very fundamental reasons.

I really have no truck with the people who want to complexify things by claiming there were more bombs, but I found it very odd the article would go so far as to concede that an ANFO bomb could not have brought down the building, and then tried to patch that hole with the lame "jet fuel" thing. Jet fuel is very like kerosene. Just because jet planes use it instead of diesel or fuel oil does not mean jet fuel has vastly more energy. IF McVeigh's bomb was really much more powerful than a truckload of ANFO, it was for some other reason than using jet fuel.

[eno_]

The article was OK except for the clunker about ANFO explosives: ANFO is a "low explosive." It sure does explode, but not with anything like the energy of a military munition of the same weight. Upgrading the chemistry will not weave a high explosive silk purse from an ANFO sow's ear. Yeah, you can improve it, but it isn't going to totally transform it for some very fundamental reasons.

I really have no truck with the people who want to complexify things by claiming there were more bombs, but I found it very odd the article would go so far as to concede that an ANFO bomb could not have brought down the building, and then tried to patch that hole with the lame "jet fuel" thing. Jet fuel is very like kerosene. Just because jet planes use it instead of diesel or fuel oil does not mean jet fuel has vastly more energy. IF McVeigh's bomb was really much more powerful than a truckload of ANFO, it was for some other reason than using jet fuel.

[Denver Ditdat]

And WHY was he kept after the State Trooper stoped him for a missing tag??

He was carrying a concealed weapon, wasn't he?

[PJ-Comix]

Just a ping...even Salon.com gets into the "Who Was John Doe #2" act.

Actually this Salon.Com story was written LAST YEAR but with all the speculation about John Doe #2 now, there should be an investigation into that video tape. Will the FBI dare to claim that the video tape is "missing?" That would surely stretch their credibility way too far.

[buccaneer81]

Here you go. Sketches of John Doe #2 from 1995 and Padilla's mugshot. Very interesting.

[PJ-Comix]

Even better than a sketch is a VIDEO TAPE of John Doe #2. We know that one exists so why is the government keeping it hidden?

[steve50]

I agree with you on the ANFO, used it for years in the mining business. ANFO is used mainly because of the large volume of gases it creates,, not for it's explosive force.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

refresher

[bray]

Didn't Janet Reno already conclude that JD #2 was Rush Limbaugh??? As they say in Arkansas, "dead men don't talk."

Pray for GW and the Truth

[VOA]

Actually this Salon.Com story was written LAST YEAR

thanks for the tip...some day I'll remember to check publication dates!

[Abundy]

Hey guys...this is the Government we're supposed to blindly follow - just 'cause we are at war.

How many violations of the law by the FBI can you two count in this story?

[marty60]

Oh my gd, this is giving me chills. Isn't McNichols wife maiden name Padilla? This is just to much of a coincidence.

[PJ-Comix]

Isn't McNichols wife maiden name Padilla?

No. It was the last name of the husband that she married after she divorced Nichols. I wouldn't make too much of this. Padilla is a common Spanish name.

[marty60]

I heard Nichols wifes maiden name is Padilla, is that true?

[Delbert]

Terry Nichols is still alive as we know, does anyone know if they are making afforts to extract more info out of him? Or does someone in the higher ups not want him to be forthcoming with additional information? I think McVeigh was executed pre maturely, we should have been able to get more information from him. It would have been interesting to see what McVeigh or Nichols had to say about the Mexican Muslim.