Pornography: Formula for Despair

CERC ^ | Donald DeMarco

[SW6906]

"I'm sorry, but you'll have to further explain the connection between the devestating effects of porn...and that of bingo. Is that really your argument?"

The point is that it is the addiction that caused the problem in the marriage, not the subject of the addiction. It could have been an addiction to reading Time Magazine and it still likely would have caused the problems. Trying to blame something you don't like (pornography) for the weaknesses of others is what this is about.

I have friends that are addicted to golf to the point of I believe it is more important to them than their families. It appears so when they are not willing to give up a game in order to attend family events, parties, or such things.

It's the addictive behavior, not the game of golf that needs addressing. Same goes for porn.

[The Duke]

Porn is the celebration of hedonism and selfishness - in their purest, most distilled form. Much evil in this world springs from these sources.

If one is inclined to promote porn then I suggest that the dumpster would make a nice home.

Of course even as I watch this I look up and see Melonie Griffith doing Kiefer Sutherland in the back of a Chevy.

Kiefer, ya done Oddball proud - she's one nice ho'!!!

[JMJ333]

What's the effective difference between somebody ruining their marriage because they can't stop looking at naked pictures and somebody ruining their marriage because they can't stop blowing the grocery budget on bingo cards?

Did you read the article? If you really don't see a difference between the effects of porn and people who play bingo...well...I am at a loss as to what to say...

[JMJ333]

Where does bingo reduce the human being to an object? I'm sorry, but you'll have to go through the points made in the article [easy to find as they are capitalized] and explain the similarities because I find this line of argument ridiculous.

[SW6906]

Keep up the fight, I gotta go to bed (without porn!).

G'nite all.

[PJ-Comix]

No more spinning, justifying, or self-deception. Just straight talk.

Actually Bundy was doing quite a bit of spinning and justifying (although he was trying to decieve others, not himself). He was trying to shuffle off his murderous misdeeds on porno rather than taking the blame for his own actions. I remember his lame excuse and thought him a slimey little weasel even at the very end.

[gcruse]

I see. You're basic argument is "It's malarkey." LOL

Metaphysical malarkey indeed, as illustrated by this--

 Depersonalizing, Enslaving, Self-destructive, Preposterous,
 Alienating, Isolating, Reductionistic. The process can be subtle
enough that, for some, it goes unnoticed.

Yup, really awful stuff.   Actually, incarnating as
a chocolate rabbit is a lot more interesting.

[yendu bwam]

my waiting room and many other counselors are filled with marriages wrecked on the shoals of pornography. Our forbearers knew danger and the limits of humanity when they outlawed it.

I have know many who became addicted to it, to the detriment of their marriages and relationships.

[Prince Caspian]

Bundy claimed full responsibility for his own acts during the interview. He blamed no one or nothing else. He described how pornography had played a role in the process.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Pornography is reductionist. It reduces the personality, the beauty, the love, the intimacy of humans into the lowest, smallest marketable package possible. Then very small people who will never grow up buy it. It is an addictive contaminent in the minds of children and adults, who will never find satisfaction even as they purchase more and more of it.

Excellent reply. Interesting how many of these so-called Conservatives are porndogs, isn't it?

[JMJ333]

It goes un-noticed by you doesn't it? And all the pro-porn libertines on this thread who'd rather stick their head in the sand and tout immature quips than realize destructive behavior when it is explained in depth. Not one of you guys has refuted even one point made in the article.

[yendu bwam]

More serious than mere jaywalking but not nearly as dangerous as drunk driving.

It ruins a lot of lives. More than most people realize.

[Harrison Bergeron]

"Did you read the article? "

Yes. Its disregard of bingo addiction (or, more seriously, the addictive personality in general) totally killed any credibility it might have otherwise had.

[Chunga]

In its attack on American culture and social institutions libertarianism works hand in hand with liberalism to undermine tradition and social stability. The Bill Of Rights makes no sense outside of American traditions and social structures, and the Founding Fathers knew it.

I doubt very seriously that social conservatives drove you to libertarianism. It is far more likely that your personal philosophy is steeped in relativism, and pure conservatism of the American stripe (with its emphases on truth as revealed through tradition and a body of law that buttresses social stability) is, in a very literal sense, anathema to your being.

[yendu bwam]

human beings actually feeling LUST--what a terrible inhuman thing. So unnatural.

Lust is a natural and immensely strong animal desire. However, those that can rise above it lead freer and very frequently more happy lives. Many cannot see the wisdom of that. However, many can.

[PJ-Comix]

It ruins a lot of lives. More than most people realize.

Drunk driving ruins (and ends) a lot more lives.

[JMJ333]

If you say so.

[yendu bwam]

Pornography is reductionist. It reduces the personality, the beauty, the love, the intimacy of humans into the lowest, smallest marketable package possible. Then very small people who will never grow up buy it. It is an addictive contaminent in the minds of children and adults, who will never find satisfaction even as they purchase more and more of it.

Extremely well stated.

[Harrison Bergeron]

"The point is that it is the addiction that caused the problem in the marriage, not the subject of the addiction. It could have been an addiction to reading Time Magazine..."

Or Freeping. I'm told there are FReepers who have been fired from their jobs for FReeping too much during working hours. Or maybe its because they were FReeping naked... nevermind.