[swarthyguy]

That's what the Pakistani Ambassador to the US and the Queen of JOrdan claimed on the OPrah show last fall -- Ilsam 101. What a bunch of lies, prevarications, double talk and insistence on the socalled 'ideal' of islam with no consideration of its realities.

[Travis McGee]

Wasn't the Nazi Third Reich going to be an idillic garden spot where happy blond children romped?

Somehow the ideal did not measure up to the reality. The grander the utopia, the worse the horrors in building it. Same with islam.