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NEA Resolution #B-69: Declare War on Homeschoolers
National Education Association (NEA) Resolutions for 2001-2002 ^ | 6-19-02 | Tired of Taxes

Posted on 06/19/2002 9:51:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes

B-69. Home Schooling

The National Education Association believes that home schooling programs cannot provide the student with a comprehensive education experience. When home schooling occurs, students enrolled must meet all state requirements. Home schooling should be limited to the children of the immediate family, with all expenses being borne by the parents/guardians. Instruction should be by persons who are licensed by the appropriate state education licensure agency, and a curriculum approved by the state department of education should be used.

The Association also believes that home-schooled students should not participate in any extracurricular activities in the public schools.

The Association further believes that local public school systems should have the authority to determine grade placement and/or credits earned toward graduation for students entering or re-entering the public school setting from a home school setting. (1988, 2000)


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KEYWORDS: education; educationnews; homeschool; homeschoolers; homeschooling; homeschoollist; nea
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To: asformeandformyhouse
If you are homeschooling I hope your students have better reading comprehension than you exhibit in your post to me.

Of course, I said nothing like what you pretend.

101 posted on 06/19/2002 12:47:51 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Richard Axtell
Their very existence depends upon public ignorance and their authoritarian monopolistic control of ALL schools. Next will be regulations that force all other private and parochial schools to close, I guarantee it.

I think (believe, and pray!) that this genie is out of the bottle. The first generation of the "movement" home school kids are hitting adulthood, now. Home school parents are fanatically dedicated to their children, and have friends and family who see for themselves what's going on.

102 posted on 06/19/2002 12:50:26 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: savedbygrace
Second, vouchers come with strings. We don't want no steeking strings.

I can't believe I misspelled steenking.

103 posted on 06/19/2002 12:54:29 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Carolina
Because in a well-run, well-staffed public school (of which there are many) there is a huge variety of advanced courses taught by excellent teachers trained to teach. These courses are taught to the best of the best students who have had much more preparation for the advanced courses which only a very few can understand much less teach. How many parents can teach adv. math, honors calculus, adv. statistics, foreign languages in the third or fourth year, adv. chemistry etc.? How many have access to the lab equipment available in schools?

Specialization increases productivity which is why you see very few people building their own cars, designing their own homes, doctoring themselves. Yet, some people who barely graduated high school think they are competent to teach such subjects. I will grant you that there are ways to mitigate this difficulty but they inevitably involve turning to one expert in these subjects.

In sum, the best students in the better schools have so much more to choose from that it is a fluke when a H.S. kid can match them (Mom or Dad an engineer, scientist, professor, kid totally brilliant, etc.)

104 posted on 06/19/2002 12:58:29 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: valkyrieanne
I see your point, and it is well recieved.
However, the NEA wishes already to control those of us who choose to homeschool, despite the money ties. In fairness, as I indicated, if a H.S. parent is banned from acquiring any portion of requested assistance, they should not be held obligated to financially support that system of which they are banned from. Homeschool parents already gladly bear much more of the burden of their children's education in addition to paying the support taxes for public education that bankrolls the NEA. Most socialist schools (mis)use our tax dollars, and the point is, that a tax credit would be the most fair method of releasing the H.S. family from that (forced) support. This isn't meant such that Sammy would gain any control or influence over the homeschool system, nor that H.S. parents forfeit any right to conduct homeschooling as they see fit...
105 posted on 06/19/2002 12:58:44 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: B Knotts
How do you jump to that unwarranted presumption which is directly opposite what my posts have implied?
106 posted on 06/19/2002 12:59:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I feel bad for all those people who had miserable school experiences. I loved school and had a great time there.

The system is set up to reward those who get with the program. There are carrots as well as sticks.

The system is sheer hell, however, for those who can not or will not fit in, comply, knuckle under.

107 posted on 06/19/2002 1:04:13 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: justshutupandtakeit
If you are homeschooling I hope your students have better reading comprehension than you exhibit in your post to me.

Of course, I said nothing like what you pretend

And I quote:

I loved school and had a great time there. Most of the fun I had would be unavailable in a home schooling situation and my parents would have been totally unable to school us at home. While there may be a small role for homeschooling for the most part it is not necessary

108 posted on 06/19/2002 1:08:08 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: valkyrieanne
Many homeschoolers would prefer to organize their own private activities, anyway. I don't speak for anyone but that's just been my observation.

As a homeschooler, responsible for the education of children ( mine), I feel we should NOT pay school taxes. The money would still be used to educate children.
That's the reason we pay anyway, right? Education of children? That's what we're doing with it.

109 posted on 06/19/2002 1:11:10 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Did you not say:

If a mom stays home to school two children her family has lost that income.

?

110 posted on 06/19/2002 1:12:04 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: justshutupandtakeit
A lot of people enroll their children in junior college for these advanced courses.
111 posted on 06/19/2002 1:12:40 PM PDT by kcat
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
Not at all. Economic theory maintains that the concern will hire people up to the point where the addition profit from a hire is zero. You are assuming that it continues to hire past that point which would not be rational. Do you serious maintain that home schooling parents who quit jobs are supernumerary or superfluous?

Your scenario is possible but not likely. Why would the husband already not have maximized his income?

Those studies comparing student populations are gravely flawed by the great differences in the populations studied. If you were to compare homeschooled kids to their social peers (intact families, few extremely poor, not surrounded by social misfits and criminals, the results would not look so favorable as when they are compared to a population weighed down by the children of life's losers. Children surrounded by criminal activity, dropouts, negligent parents etc.)

I am all for truly valid studies being made but those which are biased in favor of one group because of improper modeling techniques are not of much value.

112 posted on 06/19/2002 1:12:41 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Not when unlike populations are compared and the public school students include children from families destroyed by the welfare system and fatherless families. I would like to see the Best compared with the Best. In that comparison H.S. will not look good.

Again, you are wrong. This exact scenario has been studied and the homeschooled students have exhibited equal skills.

113 posted on 06/19/2002 1:13:10 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Most of the fun I had would be unavailable in a home schooling situation

It would have replaced by possibly greater fun. The world becomes the classroom. The homeschoolers aren't trapped between four walls all day.

114 posted on 06/19/2002 1:14:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Tired of Taxes
Children are state property!

NEA on the march.

115 posted on 06/19/2002 1:16:08 PM PDT by moyden
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I am merely pointing out that many, if not most, parents are incapable of teaching anyone anything of any difficulty.

The majority of home schooling parents view wisdom as an obligation, as a duty, rather than as a commodity to be dispensed. Education is an ethical issue first and foremost. The learner has the duty to take responsibility for his own education, in order to achieve his goals in life. My daughter taught herself Swedish over the 'net, for example, for reasons of her own. I recently learned Italian just for the fun of it. We have an ongoing sense of the obligation to grow in our knowledge of God every day, since this knowledge is the core of meaningful life. The Saxon Math curricula fits in well with the home-schooling approach to education. Do the work, learn the material, go out and play, work, or read. It takes 2 hours AT MOST to keep pace with your incarcerated brethren academically, and you then have 8 hours more per day to do as your desires and delights determine.

116 posted on 06/19/2002 1:21:32 PM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: justshutupandtakeit
This country is filled with morons who should not have the freedom to impose moronism on their children. Not referring to you. But seriously the American people are collectively dumb as a box of rocks.

This quote, combined with your screen name, illustrates that you are nothing more than an elitist who would force their beliefs on others at the point of a gun. You are nothing more than a statist/fascist....thanks for confirming our assessment of your character in writing for all of us here...

117 posted on 06/19/2002 1:21:40 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: Durus
As I indicated in prior posts I don't think the studies comparing educational attainments have been properly modeled. Thus, what is demonstrated is not strictly educational differences but social ones. Compare H.S.s with the students of a high school in a middle class or upper class suburban school not with numbers weighted down by the children of Life's Losers who bring the averages down for everyone.

On other threads on this topic posters have listed results from studies which indicate a degree of superiority of H.S. students but I would not draw conclusions from them until the class differences are eliminated.

A good question would be "What percentage of students scoring over 30 on the ACT or over 1400 on the SAT were H.S.ed compared to the percentage taking the test?" But I haven't seen anything but means and medians compared and which is biased against the public schools which are trying to educate those barely speaking the language, barely surviving day by day, homeless kids etc.

118 posted on 06/19/2002 1:21:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: concerned about politics
The homeschoolers aren't trapped between four walls all day.

Nor with an agenda-driven curriculum. Freedom to learn is a wonderful thing. That's what government schools USED to have. So many people over 30 think that because they had good government schools, they must still be in existence today.

119 posted on 06/19/2002 1:21:48 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: justshutupandtakeit
In reply to your post #104, that's probably why the High School years are much better left to Schools of Math & Science or to private schools.

Nothing indicates the brighter students are targeted by the curriculum of public schools, in fact - more often, the brighter students are "dumbed-down" to fit what they misname an A. & G. class. Case in point - my friend had to take his A. & G. son out of the socialist system because they said he was a trouble maker. He enrolled into a SoM&S, graduated at 14, and is now a junior in college. Q1: How often does this happen in the public corral? Q2: What are the chances of this type of advancement in the socialist system? A2Q1&Q2: SLIM2NONE.

The point is that the assessment of a student's needs is better made by someone familiar with the student rather than a faceless entity such as the NEA...

120 posted on 06/19/2002 1:25:31 PM PDT by azhenfud
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