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NEA Resolution #B-69: Declare War on Homeschoolers
National Education Association (NEA) Resolutions for 2001-2002 ^ | 6-19-02 | Tired of Taxes

Posted on 06/19/2002 9:51:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes

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To: justshutupandtakeit
and if done on a widescale would plunge the economy into massive recession.

Care to explain how THAT would happen?

/john

61 posted on 06/19/2002 11:17:32 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Carolina
Rhetoric does not convince logical people.

This country is filled with morons who should not have the freedom to impose moronism on their children. Not referring to you. But seriously the American people are collectively dumb as a box of rocks. Look at the last elections, you really want the RATS teaching their children? Come on.

Not when unlike populations are compared and the public school students include children from families destroyed by the welfare system and fatherless families. I would like to see the Best compared with the Best. In that comparison H.S. will not look good.

62 posted on 06/19/2002 11:19:23 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
And your source?
63 posted on 06/19/2002 11:21:21 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Tired of Taxes
The NEA believes that home schooling programs cannot provide the student with a comprehensive education experience.
The NEA believes when home schooling occurs, students enrolled must meet all state requirements.
The NEA believes home schooling should be limited to the children of the immediate family, with all expenses being borne by the parents/guardians.
The NEA believes instruction should be by persons who are licensed by the appropriate state education licensure agency, and a curriculum approved by the state department of education should be used.
The NEA also believes that home-schooled students should not participate in any extracurricular activities in the public schools.
The Association further believes that local public school systems should have the authority to determine grade placement and/or credits earned toward graduation for students entering or re-entering the public school setting from a home school setting. (1988, 2000)

The NEA is afraid that homeschoolers erode their power to set the agenda.
The NEA believes that they should set the agenda of the students, and that parents should sit down and shut up.
The NEA is trying to make homeschoolers jump through the hoops they have set within the state education system.
The NEA wants to limit homeschooling to parents/guardians only, because there is strength in numbers when homeschooling parents pool their resources. The State has MORE resources than parents!
The NEA wants instructions should be only by 'licensed' instructors, meaning, they want to be the gatekeepers of who can teach.
The NEA wants to deprive home-schooled students of extracurricular activities that the student's parents have paid in property taxes already!
The NEA wants to penalize homeschoolers, forget that homeschoolers aces the various tests of scholastic ability that the NEA drones have put out!

64 posted on 06/19/2002 11:22:12 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: justshutupandtakeit
...you really want the RATS teaching their children?

I certainly don't want the RATS teaching MY children, which is the case in publik educashun.

65 posted on 06/19/2002 11:22:27 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: B Knotts
Sadly, none of it surprises me. I especially liked this little nugget from the "Alamo" thread--"We teach a lot of kids who have just come from Mexico and many who still have loyalties to Mexico."

Ain't that a kick in the head...

66 posted on 06/19/2002 11:23:13 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater
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To: JRandomFreeper
Sure it is actually quite simple economic theory. Because the opportunity costs of homeschooling are enormous when a parent removes him/herself from the work force. If a mom stays home to school two children her family has lost that income. If she made $30,000 take home then the opportunity costs would be $15,000 per child essentially double per student that spent by public schools.

If the parent has an exceptionally well paying job -say a lawyer making 1OOK then the costs are $50K per student. This does not apply if a parent is staying at home anyway.

In addition, the lost income translates itself through the economy by lower expenditures and a decline in national income.

Then there are the negative impacts on productivity of going against the division of labor.

Before the flames start, let me say none of these considerations means or implies that the public school system does not need to have changes made in it.

67 posted on 06/19/2002 11:28:06 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Then there are the negative impacts on productivity of going against the division of labor.

What about the positive impacts on productivity by having a parent around to try to keep the child from becoming a crackhead?

68 posted on 06/19/2002 11:30:08 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: freedomcrusader
That is a different issue that needs addressing elsewhere. I am merely pointing out that many, if not most, parents are incapable of teaching anyone anything of any difficulty.
69 posted on 06/19/2002 11:30:44 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: B Knotts
That is a red herring and irrelevent to my point. It is not a major problem outside the heads of those preferring urban legend to fact.
70 posted on 06/19/2002 11:32:07 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Carolina
My source for what?
71 posted on 06/19/2002 11:33:07 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I would like to see the Best compared with the Best. In that comparison H.S. will not look good.

How do come to this conclusion?

72 posted on 06/19/2002 11:37:57 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: justshutupandtakeit
If you don't think the throwaway children phenomenon is a problem, I'm not sure what country you're living in. Children need parents.
73 posted on 06/19/2002 11:38:12 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Tired of Taxes
"Home schooling should be limited to the children of the immediate family, with all expenses being borne by the parents/guardians."

Fine.
In fairness, we should demand those who choose socialist education to also be the only who monitarily support it.
According to the average cost per student, adjusted for the median family income of a school district, a parent/guardian who chooses to homeschool should be credited with that amount plus allowances for any other associated costs the governments disperse to fund the public education system....

74 posted on 06/19/2002 11:38:50 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: *Homeschool_list; *Education News
Bump list
75 posted on 06/19/2002 11:46:37 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Tired of Taxes
"state education licensure agency,"

as in the NEA and their state associations. Fact is, a person with an Education degree is a worthless uneducated idiot.

76 posted on 06/19/2002 11:51:49 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: All
Wow, this was my first thread here, and I'm glad to see so many responses.

At the risk of sounding incredibly new and naive, I have to ask this question: What do "bump" and "ping" mean? (I assume "bump" means "total agreement"...?)

BTW, I am a homeschooler AND an atheist. Sounds unusual, but it's really not. We had our oldest in public school for just two months, and, boy, was that the shock of our lives. Times have changed.
77 posted on 06/19/2002 11:52:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: justshutupandtakeit
However, you are forgetting the increased profit generated by companies when it has one less person to provide with benefits and a paycheck. The greater profits translate into increased confidence in its stock which helps those who have invested in the company and translates into a healthier economy overall.

Even if the company decides it needs someone to work in the position that homeschooling parent left empty, since most homeschoolers I have known have the arrangement of the man providing for the family while the woman stays home, it would, according to your model, actually increase the amount the person makes as the husband would be required to seek out higher paying jobs (and their attendant responsibilities) to make up for the lost income, thus increasing production, thus increasing GDP.

In addition to this is all the studies which show that homeschooled children contribute more to society than those who are publicly schooled. They seem to be (on the whole) more respectful of others boundaries and less aggressive in general without being passive. This, in addition to having an education at least equal with those from a public school. (Note: the studies which show this are the first of their kind since only recently have enough students been homeschooled to perform a valid study.)

Just my thoughts on the topic.

78 posted on 06/19/2002 11:56:13 AM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Could you point to a study, or any body of evidence, that Home Schooled children don't have as good an education as public schooled children? Excluding of course charter schools and private schools.
79 posted on 06/19/2002 11:57:08 AM PDT by Durus
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To: madfly
Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, NEA-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

80 posted on 06/19/2002 11:59:28 AM PDT by blackie
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