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White House and Congress Set for Clash on Guns in Cockpit
New York Times ^ | Thursday, June 20, 2002 | AP

Posted on 06/19/2002 10:11:29 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

WASHINGTON, June 19 — Lawmakers moved closer today to a confrontation with the Bush administration over guns in airplane cockpits as a House panel endorsed legislation that could arm more than 1,000 pilots in the next two years.

The vote by the House Transportation Committee's aviation subcommittee runs counter to the administration's decision last month not to allow the arming of pilots. Similar legislation has been introduced in the Senate.

Bipartisan groups of lawmakers in both houses are trying to overturn the decision of the director of the Transportation Security Administration, John Magaw, to keep guns out of the cockpit. They are supported by the pilots' unions and the powerful National Rifle Association, a Bush ally.

Though the bill has a long way to go before it reaches President's Bush desk, the panel's overwhelming voice-vote support illustrates how popular the idea is on Capitol Hill.

"It's a difference in policy between the bureaucrats and the elected officials," said the subcommittee chairman, Representative John L. Mica, Republican of Florida. "I think we're closer to the people."

Republican and Democratic lawmakers on the aviation subcommittee worked out a compromise for a two-year test program. During that period, up to 1,400 pilots, 2 percent of the work force, could volunteer to undergo training and obtain permission to carry guns on board an airplane they are piloting. Priority would be given to pilots with military or law enforcement backgrounds. Flight attendants would get separate self-defense training.

After two years, the Transportation Security Administration would decide whether to end the program, continue it, or expand it.

Airline pilots have been pushing for the right to carry guns, and Duane Woerth, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, praised the House panel's action.

"We give this bipartisan compromise our full support, and we thank all the legislators involved for allowing this issue to go forward," Mr. Woerth said.

The rifle association, meanwhile, is urging its members to call the Bush administration and Congress in support of the bill.

While legislation progresses in the House, the bill is opposed by the head of the Senate panel with jurisdiction over the issue, Ernest F. Hollings, Democrat of South Carolina, the chairman of the Commerce Committee.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist
Thursday, June 20, 2002

Quote of the Day by surely_you_jest

1 posted on 06/19/2002 10:11:29 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Republican and Democratic lawmakers on the aviation subcommittee worked out a compromise for a two-year test program. During that period, up to 1,400 pilots, 2 percent of the work force, could volunteer to undergo training and obtain permission to carry guns on board an airplane they are piloting.

"It's a difference in policy between the bureaucrats and the elected officials," said the subcommittee chairman, Representative John L. Mica, Republican of Florida. "I think we're closer to the people."

Two stinking percent? That sounds a lot closer to Magaw than to the people, eh Mr. Mica?

2 posted on 06/19/2002 10:38:59 PM PDT by kitchen
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To: *bang_list
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3 posted on 06/19/2002 10:44:25 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: kitchen
Arming the pilots is one sure-fire way to prevent any more 9/11s.
4 posted on 06/19/2002 10:48:07 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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I believe that all cockpit personnel should be armed; but this plan ensures that, at any particular time, less than 1/2% of flights will have an armed pilot. The chance of having two carrying is essentially nil.

File this bill under worthless. It isn't a plan to arm pilots; rather a plan to get the people off the backs of congress.

5 posted on 06/19/2002 11:14:41 PM PDT by kitchen
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To: kitchen
It isn't a plan to arm pilots; rather a plan to get the people off the backs of congress.

Bingo.

6 posted on 06/19/2002 11:24:01 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2; kitchen
It certainly seems that most pols and bureaucrats don't want armed Pilots, while most Americans do!

Thank goodness for the Eisenhower Interstate System! I can carry all the fingernail-clippers, Bowie-knives, Dirty-Harry .44 mags, and Mossberg-shotguns in my car that I want!

That should be enough.........FRegards

7 posted on 06/20/2002 2:40:31 AM PDT by gonzo
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Only 1000 pilots out of over 70,000? Why do things half way? Like I said yesterday, when Congress delegates its Constitutional authority away to the various alphabet agencies, morons like Mineta will make stupid decisions that defy common sense and the public will.
8 posted on 06/20/2002 7:38:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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