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To: robowombat
When I first came across Van Creveld, in 1999, The Rise and Fall of the Nation, I was over enamored with his intellect. After reeading more since, I've come to see him as a man with a Woody Allen complex, extremely intelligent yet a perpetual defeatist. Where does he get off with the millions dead in Viet Nam quip?

This also is interesting:

Byrne: J: What about another scenario, which has been much discussed in recent months – which is one of full military solution? Basically, the Israeli army just goes in... it doesn’t build a wall – it basically blows up the Palestinian home... razes the camps... stops, as it might say, pussyfooting around, and it’s “curtains”?

Van Creveld: Look... a home that has been demolished offers even better shelter than a home that stands intact. The Americans in Vietnam tried it. They killed between two-and-a-half and three million Vietnamese. I don’t see that it helped them much.

Americans didn't have night vision, IR scanners and remote heat and movement detectors in VietNam, neither did the Germans in Warsaw. Theoretically, if the Israelis find forced expulsion as their second to last resort before the Sampson option, running void scans from their new nifty satellite over leveled Palenstinian camps will allow them to find subterranean voids up to a few meters below ground. Eliminate those voids, put up arrays of sensors on high ground, eliminate water sources, and efficiently eliminate the "Ghosts of Tulkarm", or whatever the Arab talking heads call them...

Hopefully this will never happen, this short term victory would mark the end of Free Israel, as world opinion turns rabid against the state.

41 posted on 06/21/2002 7:35:54 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
...Americans didn't have night vision, IR scanners and remote heat and movement detectors in VietNam, ...

Unless Israel opts for the wall option (not on the 67 lines), it's not a struggle of technology. See some of my sources in 28. Technology can preven Israel from losing, it won't achieve a victory.

45 posted on 06/22/2002 8:57:06 AM PDT by SJackson
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