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One Reporter's Opinion: 'Do We Want 'Mexifornia'?'
NewsMax.com ^ | Friday, June 21, 2002 | George Putnam

Posted on 06/21/2002 9:24:18 AM PDT by One_American

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1 posted on 06/21/2002 9:24:19 AM PDT by One_American
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To: One_American
I thought California already WAS a Banana Republic with that Chimpanzee, Grey Davis in Charge!
2 posted on 06/21/2002 9:28:26 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: One_American
It's more like Mexifornication.
5 posted on 06/21/2002 9:45:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: One_American; madfly; FreedomFriend; Sabertooth
each illegal immigrant will take $50,000 in services from the state beyond what he will contribute in taxes during his entire lifetime.

I keep saying this as often as I can, but nobody will listen to/believe me. The Center for Immigration Studies estimates the number to be $55,200, but even $50K is bad enough.

Despite all the false rhetoric of lower wages, and doing jobs that nobody else will do, every illegal costs us $50K more than they will contribute every time they step across the border.

I am tired of paying for it!

6 posted on 06/21/2002 9:47:43 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: DoughtyOne
That would be "Fornikania"...
7 posted on 06/21/2002 9:55:56 AM PDT by jdogbearhunter
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To: Rhinestone Cowboy
Thanks. Sent my fax. NumbersUsa.com does good work.
8 posted on 06/21/2002 9:58:19 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Sabertooth; roachie; PoisedWoman; goldstategop
ping
9 posted on 06/21/2002 9:59:04 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: gubamyster
Agreed.

10 posted on 06/21/2002 10:02:48 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: One_American
The Liberal Dimocrats want Mexifornia, because they think that it will give them a job for life. What they don't realize is that once the illegals get here in great enough numbers, and receive "amnesty" they will start electing their own. Being a Liberal won't be enough to get you elected anymore. A politician will also have to be Hispanic.
11 posted on 06/21/2002 10:03:21 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Free the USA; Fish out of Water; Helix; Brownie74; Tancredo Fan; 4Freedom; Uncle Bill; ...
ping

sorry for double pings to some on earlier thread.

Anyone wanting ON or OFF my Amnesty/immigration list, please freepmail me.

thanks
13 posted on 06/21/2002 10:11:00 AM PDT by madfly
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To: One_American
I'd like to think those responsible for the third-worldization of America will one day be held responsible, but I'm afraid they won't.

Nah, they'll repair to spacious mansions behind locked gates & live out their lives in the splendor that their crazy immigration policies have made possible. Meanwhile while the rest of us, and our children, will be forced to live in the sewer they leave behind.

14 posted on 06/21/2002 10:23:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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Professor Hanson points to the heart of our immigration problem: While it has always been easier for people who emigrate to keep their own culture rather than join the majority, for the first time in our state and nation's history, we have made it easier for them to do it.

We have made it easier for them to do it?? We? Who's we? Oh the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MADE IT EASIER FOR THEM!

The people of the great state of California held a free election and voted 3 to 1 in favor of proposition 187 which would have put a stop to tax paid support of illegal aliens. We won the election!! And then federal government stepped in and burned our ballots and declared our election unconstitutional.

Wake up people. Let this serve as a warning to all.

Our borders and immigration policies have become a national disgrace, and now a complete national security nightmare.

15 posted on 06/21/2002 10:32:52 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: One_American
romanticizing Mother Mexico while chastising Lady Bountiful America.

I doubt Putnam actually knows any illegal Mexicans. No, they do not romanticize Mexico, they know very well what they left behind. They know very well the legal abuses that working class or poverty-class Mexicans are subjected to back home.

The hostile rhetoric you hear directed toward the United States does not come from field workers. It comes from leftist Mexican academics, leftist American academics, and people of their ilk. Leftists are leftists. They live to create enmity where there isn't any.

16 posted on 06/21/2002 10:45:04 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Well said!!
17 posted on 06/21/2002 10:50:00 AM PDT by morjon
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Illegal immigration could be stopped rather easily. Pete Wilson wanted credit for doing something about immigration, without actually stopping it.

All you have to do to stop it, is prosecute the companies and large farms that employ them. The way it works now, is that only the labor contractor is fined. He goes bankrupt, and re-opens the next day under another name. The farmer, who is the real employer of the illegals, is immune from prosecution.

Of course, the big farmers were Pete Wilson's biggest supporters, so he was never going to prosecute them.

But, if you're serious, thats what it will take. That, and some National Guardsmen patrolling the rural areas along the border, to keep people from dying in the desert. But people will not cross if there are no jobs waiting for them.

And don't tell me that Americans will not do the work that illegals do. They will do it; just not at the price and conditions offered. But farm labor costs are only a tiny percentage of the cost of produce at the supermarket. You could double the wages offered, and the price of produce would only go up by a few cents.

Farmers like illegals because, if injured, they can't sue. If you have a dispute about wages, they can't go get a lawyer. That is why nothing will be done to stop it.

And, in the present climate, where both parties are jockeying for hispanic support, they will both pander to this issue. The ironic thing is, that hispanics supported Prop 187, too; 60% to 40%, roughly the same percentage as Anglos. Oh, did the news media forget to mention that?

18 posted on 06/21/2002 10:59:16 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Well said II.

Putnam is definitely not describing Illinois, where there are many immigrants, Mexican and otherwise. Two-thirds of new HOMEONWERS in my suburb have Hispanic surnames. If they have such bad values, why did 100% vote for Bush in my area? Why did they vote for conservative O'Malley in the primary in my area?

The problem is not with the Mexican immigrants, it is with the welfare programs pushed by the white liberals.

19 posted on 06/21/2002 11:06:51 AM PDT by spintreebob
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The problem is not with the Mexican immigrants, it is with the welfare programs pushed by the white liberals.

Thank you. I am all for sealing the border, and I am all for tightening up immigration. The rate of immigration could be cut to near zero, and that would be fine with me.

But, as I have said elsewhere, I would gladly trade a million Democrats for the next million Mexicans to wade the river, chosen at random. Their values are much more in line with our own. I say that, even knowing full well that most of them will eventually vote Democrat.

20 posted on 06/21/2002 11:14:07 AM PDT by marron
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