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To: One_American
Professor Hanson points to the heart of our immigration problem: While it has always been easier for people who emigrate to keep their own culture rather than join the majority, for the first time in our state and nation's history, we have made it easier for them to do it.

We have made it easier for them to do it?? We? Who's we? Oh the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MADE IT EASIER FOR THEM!

The people of the great state of California held a free election and voted 3 to 1 in favor of proposition 187 which would have put a stop to tax paid support of illegal aliens. We won the election!! And then federal government stepped in and burned our ballots and declared our election unconstitutional.

Wake up people. Let this serve as a warning to all.

Our borders and immigration policies have become a national disgrace, and now a complete national security nightmare.

15 posted on 06/21/2002 10:32:52 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Illegal immigration could be stopped rather easily. Pete Wilson wanted credit for doing something about immigration, without actually stopping it.

All you have to do to stop it, is prosecute the companies and large farms that employ them. The way it works now, is that only the labor contractor is fined. He goes bankrupt, and re-opens the next day under another name. The farmer, who is the real employer of the illegals, is immune from prosecution.

Of course, the big farmers were Pete Wilson's biggest supporters, so he was never going to prosecute them.

But, if you're serious, thats what it will take. That, and some National Guardsmen patrolling the rural areas along the border, to keep people from dying in the desert. But people will not cross if there are no jobs waiting for them.

And don't tell me that Americans will not do the work that illegals do. They will do it; just not at the price and conditions offered. But farm labor costs are only a tiny percentage of the cost of produce at the supermarket. You could double the wages offered, and the price of produce would only go up by a few cents.

Farmers like illegals because, if injured, they can't sue. If you have a dispute about wages, they can't go get a lawyer. That is why nothing will be done to stop it.

And, in the present climate, where both parties are jockeying for hispanic support, they will both pander to this issue. The ironic thing is, that hispanics supported Prop 187, too; 60% to 40%, roughly the same percentage as Anglos. Oh, did the news media forget to mention that?

18 posted on 06/21/2002 10:59:16 AM PDT by marron
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To: Joe Hadenuf
What is the status of the 187 case in the courts.
Is there another movement to resurect it?
Is there a website?
24 posted on 06/21/2002 11:25:25 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Borders, Language, Culture
42 posted on 06/21/2002 3:19:46 PM PDT by Jamten
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To: Joe Hadenuf
That is one thing that really burns my ass. States have done that on a number of issue's. I just recall Cal because of the high profile in the media.

Didnt you legalize grass and knock down aff. action only to have a corrupt,immoral,tyrannical, and evil judge from gov.org overturn any prop which gov.org does not like.

Just more proof we dont have a republic, we dont have a democracy because gov.org gets the final vote. What he have is socialism in the stage before facism.

82 posted on 06/23/2002 6:06:29 AM PDT by winodog
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