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To: bassmaner
The change the channel crap does not cut it.

The moral fabric of the nation cannot be destroyed, without morality no nation can exist.

Let me give you an example, If I choose to run a smelter in my backyard, are the people that live around me affected by it? The answer is Yes. Even if they do not choose to run a smelter, they cannot simply choose not to breath. The same applies for attacks on morality. Those who do not choose to watch immoral behavior are affected by those who do.

As the Pennsylvania Supreme Court Said way back in 1815.

This court is...invested with power to punish not only open violations of decency and morality, but also whatever secretly tends to undermine the principles of society... Whatever tends to the destruction of morality, in general, may be punishable criminally. Crimes are public offenses, not because they are perpetrated publically, but because their effect is to injure the public. Buglary, though done in secret, is a public offense; and secretly destroying fences is indictable.

Hence it follows, that an offense may be punishable, if in it's nature and by it's example, it tends to the corruption or morals; although it not be committed in public.

Although every immoral act, such as lying, ect... is not indictable, yet where the offense charged is destructive of morality in general...it is punishable at common law. The destruction of morality renders the power of government invalid...

No man is permitted to corrupt the morals of the people, secret poision cannot be thus desseminated.

10 posted on 06/22/2002 1:07:15 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
That has always been my stance.

I might be able to keep my children in the house when they spray the pollution, but they must eventually have to live in the society that has been sprayed.

While we do have to walk a fine line regarding personal freedoms, we do have a vested interest in what all children are taught in this nation - and that includes indoctrination in 'alternative lifestyles.'

People should make no mistake, this type brainwashing is aimed at any child. Children absorb more than you think at any age and it definitely affects their thinking.

Of course, I say, disconnect your cable, satellite dish or antenna - and write the sponsors.

12 posted on 06/22/2002 1:15:50 PM PDT by nanny
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To: FF578
The change the channel crap does not cut it.

Oh, yes it does.

Amendment I:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That's all that needs to be said: we're talking about speech here, not sodomy. Change the channel, or, better yet, turn off the TV if you don't care to be exposed to it.

The moral fabric of the nation cannot be destroyed, without morality no nation can exist.

I can't disagree with you on this. Yeah, I know: the glorification of the homosexual lifestyle is symptomatic of the erosion of morality. But the process actually started in the 1930's with the advent of socialism in America. That was long before the rise of "maggot-infested, dope-smoking FM types" that Rush often rants about. Morality began to decline when expectations of government entitlements became part of the culture. As the size and scope of government has increased over the years, the American ideals of "rugged individualism" and "individual liberty" have been pushed aside in favor of "collectivism" and "group identity". Homosexuals simply happen to be another favored "group" now currying favor with the political powers that be.

Let me give you an example, If I choose to run a smelter in my backyard, are the people that live around me affected by it? The answer is Yes. Even if they do not choose to run a smelter, they cannot simply choose not to breath. The same applies for attacks on morality. Those who do not choose to watch immoral behavior are affected by those who do.

A strawman argument, because people CAN (and do) choose not to participate in the popular culture. Your hypothetical smelter is causing harm to others by interfering with their breathing: that's why we have zoning laws to prevent such absurd situations. In libertarian parlance, the owner of said smelter is "initiating force" against other citizens, therefore it is morally right to prohibit him from running the smelter. Watching TV is not the same as breathing, my friend.

As the Pennsylvania Supreme Court Said way back in 1815.

Come on, get real. Courts have made all sorts of bad decisions, and judges have "legislated from the bench" long before it became commonplace. The U.S. Supreme Court was the source of Roe v. Wade: do you think they did the right thing when they overrode state's rights on the abortion issue? Probably not.

History has proven time after time that morality can never be imposed at the point of a government gun. The Soviet government imposed their twisted morality on the Russian people for 74 years: was the U.S.S.R. a "moral society"? Fanatical Taliban mullahs turned the clock back to the 8th century in the name of morality: was Taliban-controlled Afghanistan a "moral society"? The answers to these questions are self-evident. And if you examine morality in America, you'll notice that the decline in morality is directly proportional to the decline in individual liberties: for every social problem, there's a government-mandated solution that's guaranteed to make the problem worse.

19 posted on 06/23/2002 7:27:01 AM PDT by bassmaner
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