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25 Years of Political Change - (The death of many liberal concepts.)
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 | By David Boaz

Posted on 06/22/2002 3:31:39 PM PDT by vannrox

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Seattle Slew, the horse that won the Triple Crown in 1977, has died. So have the political ideas that were as dominant as he was 25 years ago.

Caught up in today's political battles, we forget how much the world has changed since then. Jimmy Carter was president. Tip O'Neill, whose political life began during F.D.R.'s New Deal, was speaker of the House. Despite Nixon's usurpation, everyone knew that Democratic control of the American government was permanent

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: carter; change; clinton; conservative; democrat; dnc; evil; gore; government; ideal; ideology; kissinger; liberal; moynihan; republican; rnc; watergate; whitewater
"...It isn't the era of big government that's back, at least not among the people. It's just the irrepressible desire of the political class to extend the size, scope and power of the federal government..."
1 posted on 06/22/2002 3:31:40 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
There is no longer any serious argument in favor of socialism, protectionism or capital controls.

FEMA, Americorps, EPA, OSHA, IRS, HUD, Dept. of Ed, Thought Crimes, WTO, BATF - what else do I have to say?

2 posted on 06/22/2002 3:47:17 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: vannrox
With $1.9 trillion a year and 1.8 million employees, the government failed to anticipate or prevent a terrorist attack on New York and Washington. It failed in its first duty. Why would we expand the powers of government just when government has demonstrated its inability to do its basic job?

There are many more examples, but this is a good place to start....

FMCDH

3 posted on 06/22/2002 4:23:37 PM PDT by nothingnew
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To: vannrox
Chuck Schumer wouldn't know the truth if it smacked him in the face.
4 posted on 06/22/2002 4:26:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
FEMA, Americorps, EPA, OSHA, IRS, HUD, Dept. of Ed, Thought Crimes, WTO, BATF - what else do I have to say?

That is a good start, but the list is longer. Boaz is suffering from a bad case of rectal/crainial inversion.

Regards

J.R.

5 posted on 06/22/2002 4:33:15 PM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: vannrox
"Philosopher-statesman Pat Moynihan wrote at the time..."

A willing and smiling stepping stone for Hillary Clinton, could not be consideredeiter 'philosopher' or 'statesman'.

6 posted on 06/22/2002 4:36:09 PM PDT by alex
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To: vannrox
"Of course, the political class will not give up without a fight. Since Sept. 11, pols and pundits — from Sen. Chuck Schumer on the nanny-state left to Francis Fukuyama on the anti-science right — have declared that libertarianism is dead and the era of big government is back. It's an odd claim. The Sept. 11 attacks, after all, reflect a massive failure of the federal government. "

Sept. 11th, 2001 is the day that "big" government died. We have officially entered a new age where the size of an army or the destructive capabilities of nuclear responses no longer are sufficient enough to protect a nation's citizens. They couldn't protect us on Sept. 11th. They constantly remind us with their warnings of future "unstoppable" attacks that they are still unable to protect us presently and offer no hope that they ever will be able to in the future. If this is the case, sooner or later, perhaps after another "attack" or two, citizens are going to question the prudence of continuing as is. Upon further review, this means that security will take center stage everywhere and citizens will seek it at a more basic, local level. None of this bodes well for a large centralized concept of governance.

This is the primary threat to our nation, not the terrorism itself. I just don't know if it can be avoided.

7 posted on 06/22/2002 4:36:40 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Right.
There's no argument, the statists just go ahead and do it.
Most Americans don't even know what has happened to what used to be their Republic.
8 posted on 06/22/2002 4:37:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
FEMA, Americorps, EPA, OSHA, IRS, HUD, Dept. of Ed, Thought Crimes, WTO, BATF - what else do I have to say? FBI, cia, dfacs, nsa, dept. of Ag., .... man u missed a bunch...


9 posted on 06/22/2002 4:53:11 PM PDT by THEUPMAN
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To: BenLurkin
the statists just go ahead and do it

Foxnews needs to learn how to count:

(1) Federal agencies--then and now

(2) Federal budgets--then and now--as percent of GNP, adjusted for inflation, whatever

(3) Federal civilian employees

(4) State budgets (see 2)

(5) Politically protected "minority" groups--then and now

etc., etc., etc.

There is a clear trend--just count!
10 posted on 06/22/2002 4:55:11 PM PDT by cgbg
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To: BenLurkin
Most Americans don't even know what has happened to what used to be their Republic.
I think they do. Even the socialist/liberal people I have talked with in the past 3 - 5 years acknowledge something is seriously wrong here, for many different reasons.
America is floating along on some weird brainwashed hallucination, the result of mass media efforts (Yes! It IS a conspiracy - the tin foil hat guys were right all along!).
As I study history, I have noticed that there are certain breakpoints in cultures. We are near one, but not quite there yet.
What will cause the change (I'm thinking of catastrophe theory here)? I don't know. Clearly, public education is a walking corpse. Justifiable mistrust of our legal institutions is almost universal, if you "listen between the lines" to people who actually give an opinion.
Yes, I think almost everyone knows, and are just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
11 posted on 06/22/2002 5:08:10 PM PDT by DesertWalker
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To: vannrox
I laugh at the crap posted daily on FR. I watch the BushFest posters, explain, and xplane, I watch the True Patriots bitch, whine, and moan. I watch the True Patriots be, belittled by the Bushies. I watch the left be belittled by the right. I watch the Bushites, who made their choice in '99 defend the Socialistic ideals of the current administration, actually become hipocratics.I watch the Orwellian agenda of Bush and Co. become the general Free Republic call to arms.

I can only hope that this call to worship, is recognized by others, and ignored.

12 posted on 06/22/2002 5:22:44 PM PDT by Ragin1
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To: vannrox
In 1970, the Federal Register ran 20,000 pages. It's now running almost 80,000 pages annually. (It peaked around 85,000 pages in the tail end of the Carter administration. 8 Years of Reagan got it down to around 50,000 pages.) Considering that the Federal Register only prints new and changed regulations (as well as proposed regulations and a few other things), this suggests that the annual increase in regulations is about 4 times what it was as recently as 1970.

Most agree that the length of the FR is a reasonable "rough and ready" proxy for the degree of regulatory change. It says something about the intrusiveness of our government that one must measure the regulatory burden by the number of kilopages of new regulations published each year!

If anyone is unfamiliar with the FR, it's an 8-1/2 x 11 inch daily "magazine" published by the Government Printing Office that contains proposed, new and changed federal regulations (not laws; these are only "administrative" rules) along with a few other administrative notices. It is printed in VERY small type with tiny margins, so there are a lot of words on a page.

I believe that most agencies reduced the scope of their FR publication in the 1980's, such as publishing summaries of lengthy documents, so the increase in actual regulations likely exceeds 4:1.

A graph of Federal Regulation pages since 1940 can be found at http://www.mercatus.org/regulatoryaccounting.pdf

13 posted on 06/22/2002 5:29:51 PM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: vannrox
This article is wrong in a couple of places, but the most striking thing about it is the total concentration on economics, as if that is all that matters. This is typical of Libertarians, mainstream Conservatives, and Neo-cons alike. The truth is that Liberal-Leftist-Socialist ideas, disseminated by the medias, completely dominate the West. I read an interesting piece a while back that said the left really started winning in the 50s-60s when they shifted from what had been primarily economic theories to cultural theories, while the right, first under people like Bill Buckley and later under the Neo-cons, shifted from cultural to economic.
14 posted on 06/22/2002 6:37:33 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: muawiyah
Chuck Schumer wouldn't know the truth if it smacked him in the face.

And he has bodyguards around him at all times to prevent just that.

15 posted on 06/22/2002 6:44:30 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
You beat me to it, VRWC! Socialism is worse than ever so who are they kidding.
16 posted on 06/22/2002 10:26:30 PM PDT by brat
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