Who will build 1,500 power plants we need?

Houston Chronicle ^ | June 23, 2002 | BERNARD L. WEINSTEIN

[TomB]

fyi bump

[varon]

Q: Who will build 1,500 power plants we need?
A: Bring in more illegals, they'll do the work.

Q: Isn't it because of all these millions of additional illegals one of the reasons we need the power plants?
A: Yes, and that is why we have to open the border even more so we can provide them with the power they are entitled to have.

[dogbyte12]

I will build one... Once I clean the garage, mow the lawn, and take out the garbage. Oh, and I need to change the oil too.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the link.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

fyi

Energy: Making Coal Green

[snopercod]

The very same. Thanks for the professional editorial help.

[snopercod]

The problem is that to build and operate a power plant today requires PERMISSION from literally hundreds of bureaucrats and FAVORS from an equal number of politicians. The energy maze in America has become like a chapter in Franz Kafka's The Trial.

The fact that there are still companies with the capital and expertise to build something that people need and want no longer matters in America. America is going fascist right before our eyes.

"When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.

"Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.

--Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Sorry to be so negative, but that's the way I see it.

[Carry_Okie]

The energy maze in America has become like a chapter in Franz Kafka's The Trial.

LOL! Are you sure it isn't Dostoevski's The Idiot?

[RightWhale]

Moving unused existing gas here from Alaska or southeast Asia will have a real cost around $6.50

For reference:
The Alaska North Slope Natural Gas Pipeline needs a natual gas price of at least $2.70 to be profitable.

[hoosierham]

They? are building one of those in my area and I concur that it is NOT the best way to use natural gas.

COAL is a natural since it does burn dirtier and is best treated at a central plant.

It seems that an analysis of overall energy effiency would prove this.

[Willie Green]

Energy: Making Coal Green

Converting fossil fuels to H₂ just to get 'em to burn cleanly seems awfully inefficient.

It just intensifies my conviction that we need more nukes.

[David]

"The Alaska North Slope Natural Gas Pipeline needs a natual gas price of at least $2.70 to be profitable"

Wonder where you got that number? Exclusive of the pipeline and only to the border? Even then it still is much lower than anything I have heard. There is an article about LNG that uses a breakeven price of $4.50 floating around however that number is clearly low. As to Alaska, the pipeline cost alone has to be in that neighborhood.

[seowulf]

Probably the safest, most efficient nuclear reactor in the world is the Pebble Bed Modular Reactor. It is helium cooled which eliminates activated corrosion and wear products in the coolant and helium does not become activated. The fuel design is such that you can get near 99% burn and the fuel is stored on site for the life of the plant. I heard Cheney mention this early last year. But you are right. The Green Luddites want us living in caves.

http://www.pbmr.com/2_about_th e_pbmr/2_3how_it_works.htm

[okie01]

"However there are Congressional people trying to put strigent air quality standards on them [power plants across the border]"

As I read the whines, Feinstein, et al are actually trying to get the energy companies to pay for emissions abatement in the U.S., as an offset to their emissions in Baja California.

In other words, cut down on or pay for emissions that you're not even responsible for. Which strikes me as an attempt to simply generate more income for the quasi-governmental enviro-whacko shakedown Air Quality Boards.

[VOA]

So if Congressman Taylor is serious about curing the alleged respiratory problems
in the Smoky Mountains, he should introduce legislation to have the mountains clear
cut and paved with asphalt.

And get a PhD in Organic Chemistry with a concentration in Natural Products Chemistry.
That should keep him out of circulation for 6 to 8 years.
And by then the CongressCritter might know a bit of what is going on!

(I spent MANY days in graduate school isolating some terpenoids from a number
of essential oils...)

[snopercod]

...Dostoevski's The Idiot

I've not read that one. I'm probably living the plot, though.

[RightWhale]

The industry doesn't like to let such information out, but sometimes they inadvertently do. $4.50 is probably the minimum build price, but $2.70 is the zero profit number.

[Petar Mrkonjic]

Read about it for yourself. It's posted to provide information only.

I believe that something similar is in 'The Free-Energy Device Handbook'.You have heard of Nikola Tesla?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Shakedown, the standard MO for the Demoncrats!

[ohmage]

Tesla's work is what FTN is mostly about. I thought I kept track of the 'free energy' developments fairly well. But I missed the FTN story completely. Turns out they might be the ones to pull 'free' electricity off. They seem to be doing it by the numbers, anyway.