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Not a dime's wort of difference between the socialist, big-spending Rats or Pubs, although the Pubs tend to lead us down the path a little slower. Are we past the point where the ballot box can really make a difference in America? Looks to me like the same bunch of elitists is pulling the strings in both major parties.

. Are we past the point where the ballot box can really make a difference in America?

Not yet. That day won't arrive untill the gooberment announces we are converting over to a "cash-free system",and all "money" will be listed as debits and credits in electronic accounts you (AND they!)will access with a unique identifier. That's the day I take up my rifle and go into politics. If you wait until that is implemented and running,you have waited too long.

Looks to me like the same bunch of elitists is pulling the strings in both major parties.

It is. They all go to the same schools,live in the same neighborhoods,and marry into each other's families. Most are even in business together in one form or another.

Are we past the point where the ballot box can really make a difference in America? Looks to me like the same bunch of elitists is pulling the strings in both major parties.

I'm afraid the answers are "yes" and "yes."