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Let me refresh your memory. The reason that I entered this thread was that you had proclaimed, "Why am I confident about that? Because it is the nature of that community there. It's like America 60 yeras ago: Everyone KNOWS everyone else, knows them well, and knows them in the context of shared spiritual values." ----- Illbay, this is a crock, and I refuted it.

If you consider every person who ever paid someone cash for a job "a crook," then you'd better lock up 3/4ths of the populace.

Yes, what he did was probably against some regulation somewhere, and if they want to prosecute him for it, then let 'em do so.

This is not about Aunt Edna paying the neighbor boy to mow the lawn. Ed Smart is the proprietor of a business and as such has legal as well as moral obligations in managing his company. It might not seem a big deal to you, but it surely is to honest Mormon and gentile businessmen in Utah who choose to honor their civic duties (play by the rules), yet must compete against the dishonest, greedy ones.

But you're trying to trump this up and extend it into something like conspiracy to commit murder.

That is a lie.

You sound nuts, to tell the truth.

I don't remember saying that anyone was perfect. I'll be the first to excoriate Smart if this is what he was doing. It's in the public record now, so we'll see what comes of it.

Meanwhile, I really want to understand how you think this means the Smarts "abducted" their own child.