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Components of a family: Two Lexington men await a unique birth
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | Sun, Jun. 23, 2002 | VALARIE HONEYCUTT SPEARS

Posted on 06/24/2002 7:24:13 AM PDT by Artist

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To: Emmylou
I beg to differ. They most certainly are confused about their expressed desire to "raise their children in the Catholic faith."

They can do that partially, but not completely, since they obviously reject Catholic teaching on sexual matters.

41 posted on 06/24/2002 9:34:19 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
They can do that partially, but not completely,

I would venture to guess that not a single catholic family in America does so "completely".

42 posted on 06/24/2002 9:36:14 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord
Regardless, they cannot in good faith agree to the responsibilities that parents are reminded of at their child's baptism.

Putting aside the question of whether homosexuals should be raising children, even if that is presumed in the affirmative, it is absurd for these guys to be claiming to be "devout" Catholics.

There are about 30,000 other Christian demoninations available to them, many of which embrace homosexuality. But, as long as they claim to be Catholics, they have certain responsibilities to at least try, which is all any of us can do, to live according to our Faith.

One can be either a practicing homosexual, or you are Catholic, but not both. Celibacy is the prescribed Catholic state for those with a homosexual inclination.

44 posted on 06/24/2002 9:43:24 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Emmylou
I won't argue with you about raising them in the Catholic Church, since the Church does condemn homosexual practices.

Well, that's what I was saying they were confused about, so apparently we agree. :-)

45 posted on 06/24/2002 9:44:55 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Artist
They used a female surrogate. No fair. That's cheating. Now if Meehan were carrying the quads...that would be freakin' unique.
46 posted on 06/24/2002 9:51:05 AM PDT by RichInOC
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To: RichInOC
Dysarz, I mean...my bad.
47 posted on 06/24/2002 9:51:41 AM PDT by RichInOC
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To: ethical
Bump
48 posted on 06/24/2002 9:55:35 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: LibertyGirl77
It is WRONG to knowingly bring children into a situation where they will be ostracized, criticized and marginalized for all of their formative years. This lifestyle will bring nothing but pain to the children involved.

The same thing that's been said about children of interracial parents for decades now... and just as empty. If your kid picks on these kids because of their parents, there's a problem with your kid.

I have three interracial friends. All three have always been very well adjusted, well accepted by peers, and have done very well in life. I'll let that speak for itself. I'm sure the anti-gay prognosticating is equally invalid.

49 posted on 06/24/2002 10:26:30 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: Emmylou
These men are not "confused."

They're homosexuals for one. They used a surrogate mother for two. They want to adopt a child into a disordered relationship for three. All of these actions are disordered and intrinsically evil.

Basically, their lives are a mess. And their children's lives will be a mess.

I don't know whether they're sinners or not, since their guilt depends upon their understanding of the nature of their actions. Nevertheless, it is the resposibility of the rest of society to prevent such adoptions.

50 posted on 06/24/2002 12:37:25 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Emmylou
Strange response. You substitute your "feeeeelings" about same sex "parents" (perhaps fueled by a personal bad family expierence?) for biology, truth and human history.
52 posted on 06/24/2002 2:02:51 PM PDT by ethical
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To: Emmylou
One of these men is the biological father, so I don't think society can prevent him from doing anything.

Normally, the biological mother should get custody. Since she doesn't want her child, the child would normally go to the father. But since the father wants to raise the children with his homosexual friend, the government should take the children away from the father and give them to a normal family.

53 posted on 06/24/2002 2:20:16 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Artist
Meehan and Dysarz were busy building the first Planet Salon on Richmond Road, but their home seemed empty.

Maybe they should have bought a pair of gerbils. They're cuddly, playful, and just fun to have around.

54 posted on 06/24/2002 2:35:54 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: Aquinasfan
So, would you actually infer from this issue and your reading of Aquinas that if one is confused about the rightness or wrongness of one's action, then that action is ipso facto without sin? Amazing, if true.

I rather think that brother Aquinas would prefer the maxim of doing nothing, if such confusion exists. That is the first principle when considering the typical abortion. If you do nothing, what is the result? The result is a baby. A human being.

Primun non nocere. First, do no harm.

These guys are selfish. They could have adopted any number of disabled, unfortunate, unwanted children, but no, they have to be showboats for the gay cause, no matter what they say about not wanting publicity. You don't give high-profile interviews with newspapers if you're not after publicity.

It's all about them, don't doubt it...

55 posted on 06/24/2002 2:45:05 PM PDT by maturin
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To: Emmylou
You and I must be the only people on FR that feel this way. I'll leave the judging to the LORD, but I know for a fact there are homosexuals who are fine parents. They don' take their kids for granted like some hetrosexual couples seem to do.

Flames will be ignored.

57 posted on 06/24/2002 2:51:26 PM PDT by seeker41
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To: maturin
So, would you actually infer from this issue and your reading of Aquinas that if one is confused about the rightness or wrongness of one's action, then that action is ipso facto without sin? Amazing, if true.

That's the Church's position. Granted, it's very doubtful that these guys don't know what the Church teaches regarding homosexuality and surrogate motherhood, but we can't know their thoughts with certainty.

59 posted on 06/24/2002 4:27:34 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Emmylou
Whether or not there are "thousands and thousands of divorced, adulterous, alcoholic, abusive straight parents raising kids" has nothing to do with being able to determine that two homosexual men, who think it is all right to pretend they are normal by bringing a child or children into their life, are indeed abnormal.

I'd come to the same conclusion if I saw a dog humping the leg of a chair. The dog and the chair can not have sex, even if the dog gets some pleasure from humping the leg of the chair. The dog and the chair can not have children but I am sure some activist will come along and say that there is nothing wrong with a dog and chair wanting to raise puppies.

A homosexual or lesbian who thinks that they are going to get what their humanity needs, body and soul, from sex with someone of the same sex is fooling themselves. They can no more get what they need from a homosexual relationship than they could get nourishment by shoving beans in their ear.

60 posted on 06/24/2002 4:37:05 PM PDT by ethical
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