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President Bush Discussed Middle East in Rose Garden Address - FULL TEXT
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Posted on 06/24/2002 1:34:51 PM PDT by RCW2001

President Bush Discussed Middle East in Rose Garden Address
The Rose Garden

3:47 P.M.

THE PRESIDENT: For too long, the citizens of the Middle East have lived in the midst of death and fear. The hatred of a few holds the hopes of many hostage. The forces of extremism and terror are attempting to kill progress and peace by killing the innocent. And this casts a dark shadow over an entire region. For the sake of all humanity, things must change in the Middle East.

It is untenable for Israeli citizens to live in terror. It is untenable for Palestinians to live in squalor and occupation. And the current situation offers no prospect that life will improve. Israeli citizens will continue to be victimized by terrorists, and so Israel will continue to defend herself.

In the situation the Palestinian people will grow more and more miserable. My vision is two states, living side by side in peace and security. There is simply no way to achieve that peace until all parties fight terror. Yet, at this critical moment, if all parties will break with the past and set out on a new path, we can overcome the darkness with the light of hope. Peace requires a new and different Palestinian leadership, so that a Palestinian state can be born.

I call on the Palestinian people to elect new leaders, leaders not compromised by terror. I call upon them to build a practicing democracy, based on tolerance and liberty. If the Palestinian people actively pursue these goals, America and the world will actively support their efforts. If the Palestinian people meet these goals, they will be able to reach agreement with Israel and Egypt and Jordan on security and other arrangements for independence.

And when the Palestinian people have new leaders, new institutions and new security arrangements with their neighbors, the United States of America will support the creation of a Palestinian state whose borders and certain aspects of its sovereignty will be provisional until resolved as part of a final settlement in the Middle East.

In the work ahead, we all have responsibilities. The Palestinian people are gifted and capable, and I am confident they can achieve a new birth for their nation. A Palestinian state will never be created by terror -- it will be built through reform. And reform must be more than cosmetic change, or veiled attempt to preserve the status quo. True reform will require entirely new political and economic institutions, based on democracy, market economics and action against terrorism.

Today, the elected Palestinian legislature has no authority, and power is concentrated in the hands of an unaccountable few. A Palestinian state can only serve its citizens with a new constitution which separates the powers of government. The Palestinian parliament should have the full authority of a legislative body. Local officials and government ministers need authority of their own and the independence to govern effectively.

The United States, along with the European Union and Arab states, will work with Palestinian leaders to create a new constitutional framework, and a working democracy for the Palestinian people. And the United States, along with others in the international community will help the Palestinians organize and monitor fair, multi-party local elections by the end of the year, with national elections to follow.

Today, the Palestinian people live in economic stagnation, made worse by official corruption. A Palestinian state will require a vibrant economy, where honest enterprise is encouraged by honest government. The United States, the international donor community and the World Bank stand ready to work with Palestinians on a major project of economic reform and development. The United States, the EU, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund are willing to oversee reforms in Palestinian finances, encouraging transparency and independent auditing.

And the United States, along with our partners in the developed world, will increase our humanitarian assistance to relieve Palestinian suffering. Today, the Palestinian people lack effective courts of law and have no means to defend and vindicate their rights. A Palestinian state will require a system of reliable justice to punish those who prey on the innocent. The United States and members of the international community stand ready to work with Palestinian leaders to establish finance -- establish finance and monitor a truly independent judiciary.

Today, Palestinian authorities are encouraging, not opposing, terrorism. This is unacceptable. And the United States will not support the establishment of a Palestinian state until its leaders engage in a sustained fight against the terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure. This will require an externally supervised effort to rebuild and reform the Palestinian security services. The security system must have clear lines of authority and accountability and a unified chain of command.

America is pursuing this reform along with key regional states. The world is prepared to help, yet ultimately these steps toward statehood depend on the Palestinian people and their leaders. If they energetically take the path of reform, the rewards can come quickly. If Palestinians embrace democracy, confront corruption and firmly reject terror, they can count on American support for the creation of a provisional state of Palestine.

With a dedicated effort, this state could rise rapidly, as it comes to terms with Israel, Egypt and Jordan on practical issues, such as security. The final borders, the capital and other aspects of this state's sovereignty will be negotiated between the parties, as part of a final settlement. Arab states have offered their help in this process, and their help is needed.

I've said in the past that nations are either with us or against us in the war on terror. To be counted on the side of peace, nations must act. Every leader actually committed to peace will end incitement to violence in official media, and publicly denounce homicide bombings. Every nation actually committed to peace will stop the flow of money, equipment and recruits to terrorist groups seeking the destruction of Israel -- including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Hezbollah. Every nation actually committed to peace must block the shipment of Iranian supplies to these groups, and oppose regimes that promote terror, like Iraq. And Syria must choose the right side in the war on terror by closing terrorist camps and expelling terrorist organizations.

Leaders who want to be included in the peace process must show by their deeds an undivided support for peace. And as we move toward a peaceful solution, Arab states will be expected to build closer ties of diplomacy and commerce with Israel, leading to full normalization of relations between Israel and the entire Arab world.

Israel also has a large stake in the success of a democratic Palestine. Permanent occupation threatens Israel's identity and democracy. A stable, peaceful Palestinian state is necessary to achieve the security that Israel longs for. So I challenge Israel to take concrete steps to support the emergence of a viable, credible Palestinian state.

As we make progress towards security, Israel forces need to withdraw fully to positions they held prior to September 28, 2000. And consistent with the recommendations of the Mitchell Committee, Israeli settlement activity in the occupied territories must stop.

The Palestinian economy must be allowed to develop. As violence subsides, freedom of movement should be restored, permitting innocent Palestinians to resume work and normal life. Palestinian legislators and officials, humanitarian and international workers, must be allowed to go about the business of building a better future. And Israel should release frozen Palestinian revenues into honest, accountable hands.

I've asked Secretary Powell to work intensively with Middle Eastern and international leaders to realize the vision of a Palestinian state, focusing them on a comprehensive plan to support Palestinian reform and institution-building.

Ultimately, Israelis and Palestinians must address the core issues that divide them if there is to be a real peace, resolving all claims and ending the conflict between them. This means that the Israeli occupation that began in 1967 will be ended through a settlement negotiated between the parties, based on U.N. Resolutions 242 and 338, with Israeli withdrawal to secure and recognize borders.

We must also resolve questions concerning Jerusalem, the plight and future of Palestinian refugees, and a final peace between Israel and Lebanon, and Israel and a Syria that supports peace and fights terror.

All who are familiar with the history of the Middle East realize that there may be setbacks in this process. Trained and determined killers, as we have seen, want to stop it. Yet the Egyptian and Jordanian peace treaties with Israel remind us that with determined and responsible leadership progress can come quickly.

As new Palestinian institutions and new leaders emerge, demonstrating real performance on security and reform, I expect Israel to respond and work toward a final status agreement. With intensive effort by all, this agreement could be reached within three years from now. And I and my country will actively lead toward that goal.

I can understand the deep anger and anguish of the Israeli people. You've lived too long with fear and funerals, having to avoid markets and public transportation, and forced to put armed guards in kindergarten classrooms. The Palestinian Authority has rejected your offer at hand, and trafficked with terrorists. You have a right to a normal life; you have a right to security; and I deeply believe that you need a reformed, responsible Palestinian partner to achieve that security.

I can understand the deep anger and despair of the Palestinian people. For decades you've been treated as pawns in the Middle East conflict. Your interests have been held hostage to a comprehensive peace agreement that never seems to come, as your lives get worse year by year. You deserve democracy and the rule of law. You deserve an open society and a thriving economy. You deserve a life of hope for your children. An end to occupation and a peaceful democratic Palestinian state may seem distant, but America and our partners throughout the world stand ready to help, help you make them possible as soon as possible.

If liberty can blossom in the rocky soil of the West Bank and Gaza, it will inspire millions of men and women around the globe who are equally weary of poverty and oppression, equally entitled to the benefits of democratic government.

I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements. And those values are alive in the Islamic world today. You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. Prosperity and freedom and dignity are not just American hopes, or Western hopes. They are universal, human hopes. And even in the violence and turmoil of the Middle East, America believes those hopes have the power to transform lives and nations.

This moment is both an opportunity and a test for all parties in the Middle East: an opportunity to lay the foundations for future peace; a test to show who is serious about peace and who is not. The choice here is stark and simple. The Bible says, "I have set before you life and death; therefore, choose life." The time has arrived for everyone in this conflict to choose peace, and hope, and life.

Thank you very much.


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1 posted on 06/24/2002 1:34:51 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
"I've asked Secretary Powell to work intensively with Middle Eastern and international leaders to realize the vision of a Palestinian state, focusing them on a comprehensive plan to support Palestinian reform and institution-building. "

It appears very clear to me that Powell's appeasement of Arafat and coddling of the terrorists is coming from none other than Bush himself.

2 posted on 06/24/2002 1:42:39 PM PDT by fogarty
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To: RCW2001
From the end of the speech...Speech in a nutshell:

This moment is both an opportunity and a test for all parties in the Middle East: an opportunity to lay the foundations for future peace; a test to show who is serious about peace and who is not. The choice here is stark and simple. The Bible says, "I have set before you life and death; therefore, choose life." The time has arrived for everyone in this conflict to choose peace, and hope, and life.

3 posted on 06/24/2002 1:43:00 PM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: LarryLied
For decades you've been treated as pawns in the Middle East conflict.

Interesting, but to elliptical. Govt. needs to come out and say why they are being used as pawns - deflection by other countries, propping up oil prices, etc.

4 posted on 06/24/2002 1:43:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: ResistorSister
That bible quote is kind of "in your face" isn't it? Very interesting.
5 posted on 06/24/2002 1:44:15 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: fogarty
IMO there will never be a Palestinian state in the West Bank. I believe Israel will regather the entire West Bank under it's authority. Something will always happen at the last moment to derail any stable settlement no matter how hard anyone tries.

I hope Bush is just going through the motions with a speech like this, that he knows it needs saying for political consumption, but that he knows the real score on this issue.

Although I can forsee some scenarios where there COULD be a Palistine in the WB, ultimately, the WB belongs to Israel and they will either keep it now, or re-take it later. In any event, the Temple WILL be rebuilt on the Temple Mount.

6 posted on 06/24/2002 1:48:27 PM PDT by berned
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To: fogarty
It appears very clear to me that Powell's appeasement of Arafat and coddling of the terrorists is coming from none other than Bush himself.

What are you TALKING about? This speech shows the opposite? Were you listening?
7 posted on 06/24/2002 1:49:17 PM PDT by hawaiian
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To: ResistorSister
Give them everything east of Damascus for their state. Let them share their border with Assad of Syria, then if Assad continues to sponsor terrorism against Israel, turn the little bit thats left of Syria into a DEAD no man's land.
8 posted on 06/24/2002 1:52:25 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: RCW2001
Wow.

Goodbye Arafat.

9 posted on 06/24/2002 1:53:46 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: RCW2001
I expect Israel to respond and work toward a final status agreement.

I wonder if a final status agreement is something like "the final solution". The only way Israel will have peace with Islamists will be when there is no Jewish Israel.

10 posted on 06/24/2002 1:55:12 PM PDT by OK
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To: RCW2001
I call on the Palestinian people to elect new leaders, leaders not compromised by terror.

It seems that, like Moses, Arafat was just told by a burning (angry) Bush that he will not lead his people into the Promised Land.

11 posted on 06/24/2002 1:55:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: berned
Bush does want some measure of peace over there, but yes, this was mainly set up as a way for Bush to "move on" to other issues in that area-- namely taking down Hussein. He can say that he layed out a plan and that his people are working with their people on bringing it to fruition.
12 posted on 06/24/2002 1:57:09 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: RCW2001
"Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements.

Where? When? Okay, Spain for a little while. Where in the other centuries in the other 90% of the islamic world?

And those values are alive in the Islamic world today.

Where?

You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. Prosperity and freedom and dignity are not just American hopes, or Western hopes. They are universal, human hopes.

There is no hope of a solution while Bush is still delusional.

13 posted on 06/24/2002 1:57:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: RCW2001
I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements. And those values are alive in the Islamic world today. You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. P

Amazing that the President could say this with a straight face.

14 posted on 06/24/2002 1:58:02 PM PDT by BenF
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To: RCW2001
[This view of the speech by IMRA reflects my own views. The speech was a vile act of appeasement.]

Bush speech based on false premises fails to address serious challenges

Aaron Lerner Date: 24 June 2002

Following in the tradition of President Clinton, US President George Bush opened his speech this evening by asserting that only a minority of Palestinians share the views of the terrorists ("hatred of a few") when in truth polls of Palestinians consistently show that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians support terror against Israel.

This is a fundamental problem, because if the Palestinian public supports terror and a hard line position (e.g. on right of return and other issues) then the introduction of democracy, free speech and proper government will still ultimately be a Palestinian terror state.

The reality of the Middle East is indeed tough.

Mr. Bush may wax eloquently about the "value of tolerance alive in the Moslem world", but he knows full well that this is simply not true. The "tolerant" Saudis are so intolerant that they won't even permit American forces stationed on Saudi soil to openly attend Church. And every Friday those "tolerant" Saudis broadcast sermons on official Saudi TV calling for death to the Jews.

Yes, Mr. Bush calls for the Palestinian state-in-the-making to "dismantle the terror infrastructure". But Mr. Bush oddly leaves out the largest terror group in the area today - Arafat's own Fatah Tanzim - from his list (he mentioned Islamic Jihad, Hizbullah and Hamas).
So what do we have?

A democratically elected terror state with a more efficient Palestine Liberation Army (Mr. Bush said nothing about reducing the size or the arms held by the Palestine Liberation Army) with probably the largest terror militia still intact.

And with the international community - including the US State Department - judging Palestinian compliance, one can count one a "automatic pass" no matter what the Palestinians actually do.

This is not the formula for peace but instead the road map for the destruction of Israel in stages.

Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director
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15 posted on 06/24/2002 1:59:29 PM PDT by LarryM
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To: RCW2001
That's good. Write a new constitution that does not contain any reference to Israel. There are many more ideas, but this is enough for one post.
16 posted on 06/24/2002 1:59:35 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RCW2001
Good speech.
17 posted on 06/24/2002 1:59:48 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: RCW2001
Every commentator on TV saying that this speech couldn't have pleased the Israeli's more if they had written it themselves. Barak is pleased......all comments directly from Israel stating great satisfaction with the plan. The stock market going up the entire time the President spoke.

I put the radio on and the 'expert' Sean Hannity is bashing the President and suggesting this is all about appeasing terrorists.

18 posted on 06/24/2002 2:00:06 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Ramius
Yes, good speech.

There are a lot of TOTAL IDIOTS here.

19 posted on 06/24/2002 2:00:56 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
There are lot of party liners here who will spin any act of Bush as a success.
20 posted on 06/24/2002 2:02:13 PM PDT by LarryM
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To: RCW2001
The United States, along with the European Union and Arab states, will work with Palestinian leaders to create a new constitutional framework, and a working democracy for the Palestinian people.

Respectfully, what incentive exists for the non-democratic Arab states to work for a democratic Palestinian state?

21 posted on 06/24/2002 2:02:56 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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Well done, Mr. President.

Radical Islam will not accept your terms of democracy, they see it as opposition to their goal of theocracy and Islamic world domination. But we cannot accept that and if the Palestinians choose these leaders and goals, then our only option is to defeat them, and bring more misery upon these people.

This speech is clear and right. I hope the Palestinians choose the right path.

22 posted on 06/24/2002 2:03:14 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: ResistorSister
Nice line.
23 posted on 06/24/2002 2:05:25 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: OldFriend
I put the radio on and the 'expert' Sean Hannity is bashing the President and suggesting this is all about appeasing terrorists.

Since this was Hannity's pre-conceived position based upon stories from the NY Times and the whining of Bill Krystol does anyone expect him to change it now?

Did Hannity even listen critically to what Bush said?

24 posted on 06/24/2002 2:07:11 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
Got yer quote.


25 posted on 06/24/2002 2:07:51 PM PDT by Tamerlane
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To: LarryM
I don't know what speech YOU were listening to, but to me it was just this side of an ultimatum to the Palestinians. Most of the Israelis sure seem happy with it.
26 posted on 06/24/2002 2:09:12 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: tallhappy
This is, I believe, the first time an American president has insisted on concrete changes:

"Peace requires a new and different Palestinian leadership, so that a Palestinian state can be born. "

"Every nation actually committed to peace will stop the flow of money, equipment and recruits to terrorist groups seeking the destruction of Israel -- including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Hezbollah. Every nation actually committed to peace must block the shipment of Iranian supplies to these groups, and oppose regimes that promote terror, like Iraq. And Syria must choose the right side in the war on terror by closing terrorist camps and expelling terrorist organizations"

"Every leader actually committed to peace will end incitement to violence in official media, and publicly denounce homicide bombings."

"Today, Palestinian authorities are encouraging, not opposing, terrorism. This is unacceptable."

These sound pretty firm to me. And they stand as a public statement from which Bush can act in the future, disarming the inevitable criticisms when the Mideast heats up. And it will get hot, indeed.

27 posted on 06/24/2002 2:10:51 PM PDT by moodyskeptic
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To: RCW2001
This speech is simply amazing, kudos to Bush. All you people who are trying to put him down... pull your heads out of your asses. This speech provides for the #1 most important thing in the Israel-Arab conflict... the prompt removal of Arafat. There's no equivocation at all about Israel, he clearly and truthfully states that they are well within their rights to defend themselves. Of course he's going to sugar-coat his words about the Muslim world. It is not our intention nor in our interests to make this a religious war. It is a war about truth, justice, and the American way.
28 posted on 06/24/2002 2:11:14 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
There ya go.......
29 posted on 06/24/2002 2:13:17 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: RCW2001
History of Israel
30 posted on 06/24/2002 2:13:51 PM PDT by sakic
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To: RCW2001
Thanks for posting the speech. President Bush has given both sides enough rope to hang themselves. Let's see if the Palestinians will find it easier to suppress their 'wipe out the Jews from Palestine' hard-liners or the Israelis to suppress their 'wipe out the Palestinians from the West Bank' hard-liners.

Will the 'settlers become Palestine citizens or not? Let the games begin.

31 posted on 06/24/2002 2:14:49 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: D-fendr
This speech is clear and right. I hope the Palestinians choose the right path.

This is a delusion.

It does not matter if 90% of Palestineans endorsed Oslo or any other plan, or even if they elected a new Ghandi as leader.

Those whose goal is the destruction of Israel will ALWAYS hold full veto power over peace; they will continue to blow up buses and markets full of children, and the IDF will continue to go into the West Bank if force.

Anyone who doesn't recognize the terrorism "veto card" held by the radical islamist hardliners is simply not facing reality.

32 posted on 06/24/2002 2:16:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: berned
The interesting thing, I think, about this speech is that it is exactly right. It sets forth exactly what must happen for a real peaceful solution to be achieved. In a nutshell there are basically three ways for a final resolution of this conflict.

1. Israel utterly defeats all the Arabs opposing her.

2. The Arabs utterly destroy Israel.

3. Both sides agree to live peacefully together.

The world community insists that 3 is the proper answer and the pressure is always on every US administration to achieve number 3. The refreshing thing about this speech is that it tells absolutely the truth about what is required to achieve solution number 3.

ALL PARTIES MUST AGREE TO BE REASONABLE

The problem is that so many of us and everyone else that do not really believe that there is any chance that all parties will be reasonable.

So in a sense, Bush has prescribed that exact right solution. This is what must happen if 3 is to prevail. However, if it happens that people are not reasonable (probably) no one can credibly claim that Bush did not attempt to do it.

I think it's interesting that once again Bush makes a speech where he basically states "This is the right thing to do." (I was thinking of the stem cell speech. Note all the sudden flurry of research that adult stem cells are adequate). The speech probably doesn't really make anyone happy, but states some obvious truth that people generally don't want to hear.

33 posted on 06/24/2002 2:16:35 PM PDT by miner89
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To: OldFriend
What is wrong with Sean Hannity? Total garbage. Thanks for the report re: Israel's reaction to the speech.
34 posted on 06/24/2002 2:16:49 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I agree with you. I think Bush knows the Pali's can never truly bring themselves to elect a leadership which has the West's approval (kiss of death) and they can never renounce terror. So, it's just as you say. This is merely political cover for Bush, and he will move on -- to Iraq.
35 posted on 06/24/2002 2:17:08 PM PDT by berned
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To: Mike Darancette
Israel is thrilled with the speech.......every commentator stated it was totally in support of Israel........but of course big mouth motor mouth knows better. SICKENING.......and truth be told I am sick of Mark Levin too.
36 posted on 06/24/2002 2:17:40 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: ResistorSister
"The time has arrived for everyone in this conflict to choose peace, and hope, and life."

And if the Palestinians don't....BOMBS AWAY!

37 posted on 06/24/2002 2:18:15 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: ex-snook
The big choice is on the side of the Palestinians, though. Will Arafat and the Arba states go against the terrorists, and will the Palestinian people shake off the hoodlums and murders who lead them?

Israel will pull out the settlements if the deal is reached to do so. See the Camp David accords with Egypt.

The real question is how the Palestinians react. The ball is squarely in their court.
38 posted on 06/24/2002 2:18:23 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: RCW2001
>"It is untenable for Israeli citizens to live in terror. It is untenable for Palestinians to live in squalor and occupation."

There you go. Nobody even had to wait for it. First sentence, second paragraph.

Equating the Israelis to the Palestinians.

It wasn't the Israelis singing and dancing in the streets after the 9/11 attack. That was the Palestinians.

Clearly, Bush is not insane.

Then why would he continue this irrational, horrible and hopeless course of embracing the Palestinians, and CONCEPTUALLY giving them equal status to real, honest-to-goodness civilized people?!

There is going to be big trouble ahead. When you insist on driving toward a river after passing half a dozen signs that read "Bridge Out" there's really no excuse for a surprised look on your face when you start drowning...

--KotS

39 posted on 06/24/2002 2:18:31 PM PDT by KissOfTheSith
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To: BenF
Amazing that the President could say this with a straight face.

Cheap compliments made in an effort to get someone to behave better are often effective. This speech is going to be read in the arabic press, and Bush knew his audience.

40 posted on 06/24/2002 2:19:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RCW2001
Bush has called for the creation of a palestinian state today. Therefore, he is rewarding terrorism. Basically he's telling terrorists that if they commit enough terror they will get what they want.
41 posted on 06/24/2002 2:19:52 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: oldvike
Maybe Bush will call for an additional state for Osama.
42 posted on 06/24/2002 2:20:47 PM PDT by sakic
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To: RCW2001
President Bush laid out conditions for his support of Palestinian statehood, which the terrorists will be certain to pre-empt through continued violence. This speech is a clever political fig leaf -- President Bush is not betraying Israel.
43 posted on 06/24/2002 2:21:16 PM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: oldvike
"Today, Palestinian authorities are encouraging, not opposing, terrorism. This is unacceptable. And the United States will not support the establishment of a Palestinian state until its leaders engage in a sustained fight against the terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure.

Isn't being able to read a prerequisite for using the internet?

44 posted on 06/24/2002 2:22:03 PM PDT by miner89
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To: Travis McGee
Those whose goal is the destruction of Israel will ALWAYS hold full veto power over peace

You're basically stating that the war on terrorism can never be won. I disagree.

45 posted on 06/24/2002 2:22:41 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: OldFriend
and truth be told I am sick of Mark Levin too.

I can't listen to Rush much anymore - either talking golf or bashing W.

I listen to Laura Ingraham mostly even though she is on a day delay here in L.A.

46 posted on 06/24/2002 2:22:49 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Sean's been on a bash bush binge for ages.

This is a speech that should have been made in prime time.......8pm.....to me it nearly equalled his speech after the terror attacks.

47 posted on 06/24/2002 2:24:30 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: D-fendr
My take on this was he just set the bar too high. Not to high for regular civilized people...but too high for these morons. What I think will happen will be massive outcry from the Palis and more terrorism...thus no Pali state. there is no way the Arabs/Palestinians can live up to the demands bush just laid out...even though all civilized people should be able to.
48 posted on 06/24/2002 2:24:54 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Dog Gone
Where did I say that? We can win the war agains islamist terror, but NOT through accomodation, which will always be used as a ploy to buy weapons and prepare for the next stage of the jihad.
49 posted on 06/24/2002 2:25:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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That is exactly my point. He told the truth about what must happen to get a peaceful settlement. If people don't really want peace there is no use pretending some other make-believe solution. The ball is in their court.....
50 posted on 06/24/2002 2:26:28 PM PDT by miner89
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