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To: Retired Chemist
2 posted on
06/24/2002 2:38:58 PM PDT by
Talkwire
To: Retired Chemist
Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats. Oh, like raging forest fires don't disrupt habitats? Actually, they don't disrupt them, the eliminate them completely.
-PJ
To: Retired Chemist
Sent to: environmental911@sierraclub.org
There is devastating environmental damage going on at the moment in Arizona and Colorado. The major culprits are litigious environmental organizations who have paralyzed forest management practices, leading to build-up of huge quantities of flammable dead materials. Please do something to stop this horror. I suggest Chapter 11.
To: Retired Chemist
. Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats. Too bad all the habitats and those living in them have been burnt alive. The environmentalsist refer to this as "beauty."
“Mother Nature is saying to Arizona and the West, we have got to clean up these forests,” she said. “Nature is telling us that we got to get this under control.”
"Be fruitfull and multiply, and subdue the earth." -- The Holy Bible.
To: Retired Chemist
Forests need to burn in order to sustain themselves. The whole ecology of a forest is built around fire. Many types of trees cannot even reproduce if fire does not melt the wax around their seeds. Every forest can use about two major fires every century in order to clear brush and regenerate itself. Otherwise they die.
To: Retired Chemist
I wonder how the eviro-wacos 'feel' about all this air pollution they've created via their own policies.
To: Retired Chemist
10 posted on
06/24/2002 3:20:40 PM PDT by
chainsaw
To: Retired Chemist
We heard on a local talk radio station that 40% of the BLM's budget goes toward the legal costs involved fighting lawsuits brought by enviro-nazis.
To: Carry_Okie
Ping!
To: Retired Chemist
"Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats."Balony. Anyone who has worked out there, for any reason whatsover, knows the devestation that out-of-control wildfires can cause.
This is the SAME, EXACT ENVIROTERRORIST PROPAGANDA BULL $H!T WHICH CAUSED THE DEATHS OF SO MENY PEOPLE IN YELLOWSTONE. Do NOT believe this crap. Uncontollred wildfires not only riun HUMAN life, they commonly ruin ANIMAL life as well. And anyone with an IQ one point above that of a houseplant can guess that the particulates they dump into the atmosphere are not only dangerous to humans (Briton, hoof and mouth, 2000) but can effect the climate for years to come (BLIZZARDS 19993-19994 - MOUNT PINATUBO COMBINED WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN'S OIL WELL FIRES IN KUWAITE)
Err...calming down now....what exactly IS it with this current inundation of environazi propaganda we are suddenly recieving???
To: Retired Chemist
I've flipped past CNN today several times. The Sierra Club and the other enviro-weenies are really taking some hits. The same has been going on all day on FOX News channel. Now, if only we could get them to foot the bill for the millions of lost dollars.
To: Retired Chemist
OK, who thinned the forests for the millions of years before we were there?
To: Retired Chemist
Controlled fires can easily get out of control and pollute the atmosphere. Selective logging creates jobs, houses the homeless, and makes the forest healthy. Why do enviro wackos always promote solutions that are in themselves a bigger problem to society and harm the environment ? Why ?
If the Sierria club was what the pretend to be they would be lobbying for logging and trying to stop the burning.
30 posted on
06/24/2002 4:30:38 PM PDT by
SSN558
To: Retired Chemist
The haze is in the eyes, blurring.
The throat cannot be quenched.
Sunrise is orange, sunset red, the full moon yellow.
In May of 2000 Bandelier National Monument director Roy Weaver lit a "controlled burn" the night of the new moon with high winds and low humidity--burning 50,000 acres and evacuating Los Alamos National Laboratories.
We must immediately place all lands in the stewardship of the Federal Bureaucracy-EnviroNGO Janus (rhymes with anus).
To: Retired Chemist
Does anyone know how the amount of pollution from these fires compares to a large volcanic eruption?
49 posted on
06/24/2002 6:02:48 PM PDT by
Ken H
To: Retired Chemist
“Mother Nature is saying to Arizona and the West, we have got to clean up these forests,” she said. “Nature is telling us that we got to get this under control.”Repeating some good news in the middle of all this havoc.
To: Retired Chemist
When I was young and lived in a rural area of Northern California, the locals would go out every couple of years and burn off the underbrush that is the fuel for so many of these wild fires. Everyone in town knew who did it, but we understood why they did it. The massive amounts of dead underbrush makes for such a hot fire that no trees can survive. But if just the grass is burning, the trees actually thrive. The fire helps the germination of many seeds. It gets rid of a lot of insect pests too. The American Indians recorded that huge fires swept across portions of the US periodically. It is nature's way of keeping it all under control. We need to go in and clean out the forest floors. The benefits in tree gronth, wild life, etc. will be large. But our foolish forestry and logging policies have created a monter, as we are seeing in Arizona.
To: Retired Chemist
This should be called the "Green Fire" in honor of those who caused it. This area was overgrown with "doghair" (young trees spaced a few inches or feet apart). Naturally the doghair would be removed by low intensity lightning fires. More recently it was cut and burned by loggers as a condition of their contract.
Thirty years ago this fire would have burned itself out or been put out in a few hours. I have put out a number of fires in this area by myself with a shovel that I carry for that reason. Since the restrictions on logging the undergrowth has built up to the point that fires quickly crown and take out the whole forest.
This area is not like the east where forests can quickly regrow. It is dry and regeneration is measured in centuries. Two hundred years from now people will still see the effects of this fire. All of the yellowjacks are gone and the area will be taken over juniper and scrub.
Git the dogs. I think I smell an environmentalist.
To: Retired Chemist
There is actually a cool benefit to the forest burning up.
Next year after the winter rains and snow, the erosion of the soil from the runoff should fill the local streams and rivers with tons of gold nuggets.
Note to self: Buy dredging equipment and wetsuit.
To: Retired Chemist
"We have got to share this planet with the other living creatures, and sharing means not merely preserving them in zoos or National Parks, but setting aside huge areas. Whole regions perhaps that will be free of human interference. Ideally, I would like to see certain large areas of the planet set off-limits to human entry of any kind, even aerial over flights."
-Edward Abbey-Deep Ecology for the 21st Century: The Natural Wonder: An Ecocentric World View. New Dimensions Radio, 1998.
http://www.ruralcleansing.com/quotes.htm
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