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FBI Raids Hillary's Warehouse in Whitewater Deja Vu
NewsMax ^
| 6/24/02
| Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 06/25/2002 8:43:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: ravingnutter
All of which may be true. Once again, people on here seem to think that somehow, stating that financial scandals had nothing to do with what Clinton was impeached for is equivalent to stating that I defend/justify what Clinton did. They also seem to think that stating that he wasn't convicted of any crimes (unless the plea bargain that ended up with a $25,000 fine and suspension of his law license counts as such) means I think he didn't commit any. There's a reason why courts declare people "not guilty" instead of "innocent". I, at least, understand the distinction.
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posted on
06/26/2002 8:18:45 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: mcenedo
"The fact that the Clinton's were not convicted for crimes relating to Whitewater in no way esatblishes their innocence."
How obvious. Perhaps you could quote any statement I made that said that I thought they were innocent.
"Your defense of the Clinton's is as justifyable as those that cheered when Gotti walked, or when OJ got his pass."
Quote where I've defended Clinton's conduct (instead of simply pointing out his legal record), while you're at it.
"Screw you. (Freeper since when???)"
Your logic and reasoning overwhelm me. Clearly, in the face of such authority, I'm in error.
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posted on
06/26/2002 8:23:39 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: RonF
On what basis do you presume that the Clintons are my pals? Because I don't see how one draws a causative connection between Bill's sexual offenses and the financial offenses at Whitewater? Bill did what he did, but one really has nothing to do with the other. I classify you as "a pal" of the Clintons because you are apparently one of their myriad enablers.
Since you are also apparently too lazy to do it for yourself, I'm going to give you the nutshell version:
- Clinton was elected Arkansas Attorney General in 1976
- Clinton was elected Arkansas Governor in 1978
- After losing a bid for a second term, he regained the office four years later, and served until he defeated incumbent George Bush and third party candidate Ross Perot in the 1992 presidential race.
- Clinton was elected President of the United States in 1992 and served himself till 2000
For most of his public life, Clinton was a member of the executive branch of government. For a lazy guy like you, I'll translate: Clinton was "law enforcement".
Bill Clinton, law enforcement guy, committed a number of felonious acts during his public tenure. Since he was a law enforcement guy, and due to the nature of the Arkansas Democrat political machine, it was easy for him to avoid any legal entanglements for these felonious acts. (It wasn't so easy for his brother Roger, also famous for the quote "nose like a vacuum cleaner" - additional Clintonian felonious activity, BTW).
Once Bubba ascended to his new law enforcement throne in Washington, questions about felonious activity back home in Arkansas arose (Whitewater). Fortunately for King Bill, the Arkansas Democrat political machine was able to deal with most of the nattering questions of the Puritan, sex-obsessed prosecutor Starr and troublesome people like Judge David Hale. They did have to actually sacrifice some law enforcement people like Governor Jim Guy Tucker and Webb Hubbell.
In Washington, the Democrat media, staffed with stalwart liberal apologists like Ron Fournier of the Associated Press, did the rest. They turned the questions about Whitewater, the White House travel office, FBI agent Aldrich's book, Vince Foster's death, Webb Hubbell's corruption, the missing billing records - the "thread running through it", serial felonious activity by a career law enforcement official, now the TOP law enforcement official in the United States, into "a scandal about Clinton's private sex life". Even that was a lie, because sex in the Oval Office is by definition public sex.
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For a good part of two decades, Al Capone remained absolutely immune to prosecution for any and all of his criminal activities. In June 1930, Capone was finally indicted not on a murder charge, bootlegging or for any of his other seriously criminal undertakings but on a much lesser charge of federal income tax evasion.
Thus one of the most notorious criminals of the 20th century was imprisoned for tax evasion. All of the resources of the American police, FBI and other federal authorities failed to collect any evidence to prove that Al Capone was a dangerous criminal. At the end of the day, he had to be imprisoned for evading federal income taxes.
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Imagine if Capone had been commander of "all of the resources of the American police, FBI and other federal authorities", as Clinton and her husband were. The IRS would have sat up and barked for ol' Al, like Margaret Milner Richardson did for Big Bill when her IRS investigated and audited Clinton's political opponents and critics.
Bill did what he did, but one really has nothing to do with the other.
This is an untrue statement. Clinton's obstruction of justice and perjury in front of a federal judge and a grand jury are part and parcel of a seamless "webb" (**snicker**) of serial felonious criminal activity by a career law enforcement official who couldn't be touched because of the corrupt nature and structure of today's American politics.
Many of us anonymous posters on this site and other websites took notice of the activities of this "untouchable" criminal - but we're not the important observers.
The dangerous watchers were the totalitarian power addicts in America who duly noted the ways and means of acquiring and exercising the power of Clinton's kind of "law enforcement" - and the fact that he and his wife were untouched by investigations into their blatant criminal activity. Don't think we won't see more of this kind of activity in the future.
Neither he nor his wife have been charged in anything.
Just remember that Joseph Stalin was never charged for murder during his lifetime by the Russian government. Does that mean he murdered no one? ;-)
To: RonF
Your logic and reasoning overwhelm me. Clearly, in the face of such authority, I'm in error. I'm glad we agree.
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posted on
06/26/2002 9:03:57 AM PDT
by
mcenedo
To: RonF
Are you Ron Fornier, the reporter for the LA Times(or is it the AP now?) who usually is quite selective in what you report about Bush(mainly negative) and Clinton(omitting most relevant details, facts, and lines of inquiry)?
To: Diddle E. Squat
Negatory. Outside of a (literally) couple of letters to the Editor, I've never had anything published in a newspaper.
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posted on
06/26/2002 10:39:39 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: RonF
Well, that's two more than I've had published!
Thanks for responding.
To: Diddle E. Squat
One was about making voter registration simpler. I held forth the viewpoint that it was simple enough to walk/drive/ride to your local city hall to register. If people aren't willing to do that little effort to register, what effort are they likely to put into actually becoming informed enough to cast an intelligent vote, or even to vote, period? And this was *before* "motor voter" came up.
The other was when my Scout Troop got it's sponsorship dropped by the local Park District (atheists vote too, I was told). A story was published on the matter, and I had to write a letter almost as long as the original article to correct statements of fact. To the paper's credit, they published my letter, unedited.
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posted on
06/26/2002 11:16:42 AM PDT
by
RonF
To: NormsRevenge
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton surely hopes that history isn't repeating itself with the raid conducted by the FBI last month on another warehouse; this one chock full of documents from her 2000 Senatorial campaign.We all know that she bought some votes. (Even if we do not have the actual facts.)
Finding some evidence that taints Hillary's record would be great news! Re: Running for president.
To: aruanan
One can only hope...
To: RonF
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To: an amused spectator
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To: timestax
I love it when you re-bump articles! Sometimes we forget!
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