[weikel]

China from the time of Christ to the Mongol Invasions was the most technologically advanced society in the world. But military life grew into disrepute and they succummed to the Mongols. They are recovering now.

[Brian Allen]

The collection of peoples, places, territories and other peoples' invaded, brutally-conquered, colonised and murderously-enslaved sovereign states now somewhat grandly called "china" was frequently overrun and ruled by pretty much anyone who felt like bothering, including the Mongols.

That much is true.

But, except in the wildest delusions of the psychopathological, lying, looting, thieving, cronyist, Peking-based mob of two hundred and fifty Maoist mass-murderering gangster bastards that equally as grandly -- and as criminally fraudulently -- calls itself "china's 'government'" -- and those that buy that Evil gang's propaganda -- "china" never was never even a "society" let alone a "technologically advanced" one, is not so now -- and until and unless its Peoples are FReed -- never will be!

Clue:

Try actually reading my post # 38 and tell me what, from our own collective 60+ years of actual on-the-ground observations [We are observers and reporters, not theorists] John Derbyshire, Joe Studwell and I have gotten wrong?