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Pledge of Allegiance 'Unconstitutional,' Court Claims
NewsMax.com ^ | Thursday, June 27, 2002 | Chuck Noe

Posted on 06/26/2002 6:50:57 PM PDT by Sabertooth

The Pledge of Allegiance is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and may not be recited in government schools, the left-wing federal appeals court in San Francisco claimed Wednesday.

A panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, overturned a 1954 act of Congress that inserted the phrase "under God" after the phrase "one nation" in the pledge.

The ruling, if allowed to stand, means schoolchildren may no longer recite the pledge, at least in the nine Western states covered by the court.

The Bush administration had argued that the religious content of "one nation under God" is minimal. But the court said that an atheist, non-Jew or non-Christian could see it as an endorsement of monotheism.

"We are certainly considering seeking further review in the matter," said Robert Loeb, a lawyer for the Department of Justice.

Bush: Ruling Is 'Ridiculous'

President Bush, in Canada for a meeting of world leaders, found the ruling "ridiculous," spokesman Ari Fleischer said.

To allow further appeals, the ruling does not take effect for several months. The government could ask the court to reconsider, or turn to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Vishnu? Zeus?

"The text of the official Pledge, codified in federal law, impermissibly takes a position with respect to the purely religious question of the existence and identity of God," the court panel's two-judge "majority" wrote.

"A profession that we are a nation 'under God' is identical, for Establishment Clause purposes, to a profession that we are a nation 'under Jesus,' a nation 'under Vishnu,' a nation 'under Zeus,' or a nation 'under no god,' because none of these professions can be neutral with respect to religion," Justice Alfred T. Goodwin wrote.

As Fox News Channel reported Wednesday, the court is the most far-left in the nation. Its recent rulings include inventing a "right" for self-described Rastafarians to smoke marijuana on federal property.

Fox News analyst Sean Hannity lamented Wednesday afternoon that such bizarre rulings are part of Bill Clinton's legacy and have resulted because the likes of Sens. Tom Daschle and Hillary Clinton have obstructed consideration of President Bush's judicial nominees.

Who Named These Judges?

Bill Clinton's appointees do dominate the court and steer its leftist agenda. He named 14 of the 9th Circuit's 24 "active" judges, court documents reveal. However, none of the three judges involved in this decision are Clintonites.

Richard Nixon appointed Goodwin, and Jimmy Carter appointed concurring Justice Stephen Reinhardt. G.H.W. Bush appointed the dissenting judge, Ferdinand F. Fernandez.

In the nation's first ruling of its kind, the appeals court said that when President Dwight Eisenhower signed the 1954 legislation, he wrote that "millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that pupils may not be compelled to say the pledge. But the appeals panel claimed that any classroom pledges, even if students refuse to participate, are unconstitutional, an "unacceptable choice between participating and protesting."

"Although students cannot be forced to participate in recitation of the pledge, the school district is nonetheless conveying a message of state endorsement of a religious belief when it requires public school teachers to recite, and lead the recitation of, the current form of the pledge," the two San Francisco judges fretted.

In a partial dissent, Justice Fernandez said Goodwin and Reinhardt went too far in trying "to drive all tincture of religion out of the public life of our polity."

So Long, 'God Bless America'?

"The danger that 'under God' in our Pledge of Allegiance will tend to bring about a theocracy or suppress somebody's beliefs is so minuscule as to be de minimis," Fernandez wrote. The 9th Circuit's decision could endanger such patriotic standards as "God Bless America," he noted.

Fernandez thought the majority opinion could be upheld on a purely legal basis but risked crushing the "good sense and principles" that underlie the legal system.

"Judges can accept those results," Fernandez wrote. "But they do so at the price of removing a vestige of awe we all must feel at the immenseness of our universe and our own small place within it, as well as the wonder we must feel at the good fortune of our country."

Public reaction to the controversial ruling was swift.

'Outrage'

Mathew Staver, president and general counsel of Liberty Counsel, stated: "To simply allow one person who is offended to overturn such a vital piece of our national heritage is an outrage. Most people are offended every year when they make their checks out to the IRS, but that does not give them a constitutional right to sue to abolish the IRS. ...

"The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is the most reversed court in the country by the United States Supreme Court. This decision will certainly be overturned. If the Pledge is unconstitutional, then our currency is also called into question."

Thomas More Law Center, a public interest law firm headquartered in Ann Arbor, Mich., observed, "In the same week that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals held the words 'under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional, a federal lawsuit was filed in San Francisco Monday after Christian students across California were forced to pretend they were Muslims for three weeks, praying in the name of Allah the Compassionate the Merciful, chanting Praise to Allah, picking a Muslim name from a list to replace their own name and to stage their own Jihad via a dice game."

On Fox News Channel, even leftist Mara Liasson of National Public Radio called the ruling "outrageous."

On Capitol Hill, Democrats as well as Republicans scrambled to denounce the two California judges and demonstrate support for the Pledge of Allegiance.

House members gathered on the front steps of the Capitol to recite the pledge. Senators interrupted debate on a defense bill to unanimously pass a resolution denouncing the judges' decision.

Daschle: 'Nuts'

"This decision is just nuts," said Senate plurality Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.

"Our Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves," said Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo. "What is next? Will the courts now strip 'So help me God' from the pledge taken by new presidents? This is the worst kind of political correctness run amok."

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., called for a constitutional amendment to leave the pledge intact. "There may have been a more senseless, ridiculous decision issued by a court at some time, but I don't remember it," said the White House hopeful.

"This decision will not sit well with the American people," presidential spokesman Fleischer said. "Certainly it does not sit well with the president of the United States."

The Supreme Court and Congress open each session with references to God, and the Declaration of Independence refers to God or the Creator four times, Fleischer noted. "The view of the White House is that this was a wrong decision."

Will He Sue to Rename 'Sacramento' and 'San Francisco'?

Sacramento atheist Michael A. Newdow, who said his second-grade daughter was required to recite the pledge at the Elk Grove Unified School District, brought the case.

"I'm an American citizen. I don't like my rights infringed upon by my government," he said. He called the pledge a "religious idea that certain people don't agree with."

As for the majority of people who don't agree with him and don't like their rights being infringed, the attitude seems to be "Tough luck."

Is it only a matter of time before some court claims the national motto, "In God We Trust," violates the Constitution?


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1 posted on 06/26/2002 6:50:57 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
MSNBC has the full text of the decision HERE

But we can't let it stand.

SET ASIDE THE DECISION
OF THE 9TH CIRCUIT COURT

FR Thread on the same

2 posted on 06/26/2002 6:53:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Sabertooth
This thread is perfect for the mean spirted Sabertooth!

Newt said on Hannity that this Nixon judge was called back to the bench because of the hold put on Pres Bush's judicial nominees. Without that hold he wouldn't have been there!
3 posted on 06/26/2002 7:02:47 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Sabertooth
If "E Pluribus Unum" was good enough for the Founding Fathers, why did it need changing? The Founders intentionally left out any allegiance to God in the Constitution, despite pressure to do so at the time.


4 posted on 06/26/2002 7:03:34 PM PDT by reasonseeker
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To: Sabertooth
The 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals has long been the cornerstone of liberalism in the Western states under its "rule". All the more reason to insist that President Bush's judicial appointments get approved. It is so important that I feel it is worth calling the Dashole Democraps on this and risk bringing this country to a standstill - they have threatened to tie up the legislative process if Bush pushes the appointments - if that is what it takes. There is no compromise with liberalism.
5 posted on 06/26/2002 7:05:38 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Sabertooth
We are going to have to change the currency, change the change, we will just have to change.
Or, we are going to have to call this what it is, BU))SH!T!
What will, What Can We Do?

6 posted on 06/26/2002 7:07:09 PM PDT by mjf
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To: reasonseeker
If "E Pluribus Unum" was good enough for the Founding Fathers, why did it need changing?

If "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" was good enough for the Founding Fathers...

Why do you want to pretend God has nothing to do with the founding of this country?

The Founders intentionally left out any allegiance to God in the Constitution, despite pressure to do so at the time.
A non-sequiter.

The Pledge of Allegiance is "to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all."

It is not a Pledge of Allegiance to God.




7 posted on 06/26/2002 7:12:55 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth; All
Anyone see H&C tonight?

One of the guests was the father that brought the legal suit. The interview unfolded the way one would expect. Colmes fawning and Hannity fuming. One thing did catch my attention and sent a shiver down my spine. The guest, I forget his name, near the end said something to the effect that when atheists rule the country they will protect our religious freedom and that he was looking out for people of faith. more than a little scary. That is all.
8 posted on 06/26/2002 7:13:54 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Sabertooth; reasonseeker
Sabertooth is right. The country was founded by those who believed in God. The Pledge does not 'establish' a religion. It just mentions God. And the vast majority in this nation wants to keep it just as it is. This is the free exercise of speech. Nobody is forced to say the pledge. This will be overturned rapidly, or the constitution will be amended. The anti-God radicals have gone nuts.
9 posted on 06/26/2002 7:21:05 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Sabertooth
More crazy Clintoon judges running the show on the left coast and the commie pinko atheists too.
10 posted on 06/26/2002 7:21:36 PM PDT by johnfl61
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To: Texas_Jarhead
when atheists rule the country they will protect our religious freedom and that he was looking out for people of faith.

Just like the Politburo and Nomenclatura did in the USSR. We'd be in good hand alright. There would be a gibet in every community. Start with the Catholics, just for the children.

11 posted on 06/26/2002 7:45:09 PM PDT by oyez
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12 posted on 06/26/2002 7:45:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Sabertooth
Just wonderful. I was in the gym at my base (active duty Navy) today when the ruling came down; it was shown on one of the TV screens there. Almost everyone in the place...Sailors, Marines, family members all paused to watch this travesty unfold. I watched the faces for a moment. You could literally feel the morale sink with each passing second. All of us looked at each other, then at the floor...Glad you're feelin' good, Ninth circuit. The proud members of the U.S. Military aren't.

IMHO, this has nothing whatsoever to do with God, or religion in general. Those are merely cover for the real goal...to somehow ban the Pledge itself. I've never heard anyone except Leftist America-hating traitors ever take issue with the Pledge, in part or in full.

Don't be distracted. It's not religion these dogs hate, it's America itself. They'll use any excuse they can find.


13 posted on 06/26/2002 7:46:05 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: johnfl61
I think this was a senile Nixon judge.
14 posted on 06/26/2002 7:46:20 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Long Cut
It's not religion these dogs hate

Anything we or our forefathers endevoured to secure for a free people is hated. Our military service, private health care, clubs, capital, freedom of choice(short of reproductive "rights"),private enterprise sense of true History and Culture is resented. The ten Commandments is not hated as so much religion but is the cornerstone 3,500 years of Western History.

We will prevail.

(You must be AW)

15 posted on 06/26/2002 8:00:45 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Jeff Head
Call Federal Judge Alfred Goodwin and demand
that he immediately resign... (415) 556-9800
16 posted on 06/26/2002 8:44:04 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: Sabertooth
This is so moronic. The "establishment clause" of the Constitution merely prohibited "congress" from passing legislation to create one Christian denomination as the official state church (like the Church of England, the Congregational Church, or the Catholic Church as in past historical experience).

A "state church" involved being required to be a member in order to vote, own property, sit in parliament, attend Oxford & Cambridge, and be exempt from punitive taxes or, in some cases, arrest or execution. It has nothing to do with the mere mentioning of "God" or generic civic prayer or the like. It certainly has nothing to do with "voluntary" speech which refers to God, the soul, or other religious or spiritual verities. These judges are ignorant of history. If the Constitution's establishment clause had banned civic prayer then obviously Congress would not have had a tradition of engaging in such (as it clearly has throughout history). 26 posted on 6/26/02 8:37 PM Pacific by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

17 posted on 06/26/2002 8:44:36 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Sabertooth
Teachers should get copies of the 1954 Congressional Record where the Pledge was codified and have their students recite it each morning for historical purposes.

As far as I know the courts would have difficulty preventing the State of California from having recitals of an act of the Congress.
18 posted on 06/26/2002 8:49:15 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw

Go to this website and post your comments about these particular judges:

http://www.appellate-counsellor.com/profcmmt.htm

The judges were Alfred T Goodwin and Stephen Reinhard
19 posted on 06/26/2002 9:29:29 PM PDT by trevorjohnson
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To: trevorjohnson
"Go to this website and post your comments about these particular judges: "

Thanks for the link, these two will be Freeped beyond their wildest dreams!

20 posted on 06/26/2002 9:45:56 PM PDT by blondee123
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