Posted on 07/01/2002 10:41:40 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
Honestly, these people are fascists and need to go.
I've heard from a truly credible source that the policy of the Bush Admin is to slowly replace all department heads they can, transfer to virtual Siberia those they cannot and install their people in all vacancies. Looks like its working.
I understand that that situation caused a certain number of problems in terms of cronyism and a lack of continuity...but it had its advantages as well.
I would have liked to see thousands of career bureaucrats gone when Bush took office...the Clintons had done plenty of damage in eight years, not the least of which was in the area of personnel.
But if it takes political pressure to make them leave, I'm all for it.
Much of the damage to the West that these yahoos have caused in the last decade is irreversible...but it is way past time to stop the hemorraging.
EV
This piece would sure seem to confirm that.
Hurrah!!
I really hated to post anything from the Detroit Free Press, which is as liberal a rag as any.
I couldn't resist this one though. The reporter's attempts to glorify these high minded, noble crybabies only serves to make them look worse.
Amen to that, brother.
Hey, maybe the demise of their high priests will make the whole church of Gaia fold...
;-)
(I can hope, can't I?)
Now that would TRULY be poetic justice. However, if that were to occur, I'm sure the justice served up to these people would be more along the lines of wild west justice.
CLINTON ADMINISTRATION CLOSES COURTHOUSE DOOR -- HON. DON YOUNG (Extension of Remarks - September 25, 1996)
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Case name | Suit number | District | Attorney fees paid | |
1. Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 95-601 | Colorado | $1,000.00 | |
2. Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 95-382 | Colorado | 8,000.00 | |
3. Restore: The North Woods v. Babbitt | 95-37 | New Hampshire | 5,400.00 | |
4. Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 95-1815 | Colorado | 3,500.00 | |
5. Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 95-816 | Colorado | 500.00 | |
6. The Bay Institute of San Francisco, et al. v. Babbitt | 94-0265 | California, East | 5,000.00 | |
7. National Audubon Society v. Babbitt, et al. | 94-0105 | California, South | 7,540.61 | |
8. Friends of the Wild Swan, Inc., Alliance for the Wild Rockies, Inc., et al. v. Babbitt | 94-0246 | District of Columbia | 4,500.00 | |
9. Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance v. Morgenweck. | 94-717 | Colorado | 4,200.00 | |
10. Environmental Defense Center v. Babbitt. | 94-0743 | California, Central | 4,074.75 | |
11. Biodiversity Legal Foundation, et al. v. Babbitt | 94-1086 | Colorado | 1,408.19 | |
12. Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 94-0920 | District of Columbia | 5,000.00 | |
13. Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 94-0920 | District of Columbia | 3,815.00 | |
14. Greater Gila Biodiversity Project v. USFWS | 94-0288 | Arizona | 2,048.91 | |
15. Southwest Center for Biological Diversity, et al. v. USFWS | 94-0696 | Arizona | 1,665.00 | |
16. Southwest Center for Biological Diversity, et al. v. USFWS | 94-0739 | Arizona | 1,000.00 | |
17. Environmental Defense Center v. Babbitt | 94-0788 | California, Central | 3,815.00 | |
18. Oregon Natural Resources Council v. Babbitt | 94-666 | Oregon | 4,000.00 | |
19. Mountain Lion Fountain v. Babbitt | 94-1165 | California, East | 6,500.00 | |
20. Dr. Robin Silver, et al. v. Babbitt | 94-0337 | Arizona | 4,000.00 | |
21. Dr. Robin Silver, et al. v. Babbitt | 94-0337 | Arizona | 102,418.86 | |
22. Southwest Center for Biological Diversity v. Babbitt | 94-1034 | Arizona | 5,145.00 | |
23. The Biodiversity Legal Foundation v. Babbitt | 94-02441 | District of Columbia | 4,000.00 | |
24. Idaho Conservation League v. Babbitt | 94-0351 | Idaho | 5,000,00 | |
25. Northwest Coalition for Alternatives to Pesticides v. Babbitt | 94-6339 | Oregon | 10,500.00 | |
26. Southwest Center for Biological Diversity v. Babbitt | 94-1946 | Arizona | 1,971.01 | |
27. Southwest Center for Biological Diversity v. Babbitt | 94-2036 | Arizona | 40,000.00 | |
28. Native Plant Society of Oregon v. U.S. DOI | 93-180 | Oregon | 13,046.19 | |
29. National Audubon Society et al. v. Babbitt et al.. | 93-1152 | District of Columbia | 22,500.00 | |
30. Idaho Dept. of Fish and Game v. National Marine Fisheries Service | 93-1603 | Oregon | 8,405.06 | |
31. Oregon Natural Resources Council v. Dept. of Commerce | 93-293 | Oregon | 16,200.00 | |
32. Clemmys Karmorata v. USFWS | 93-6135 | Oregon | 2,522.30 | |
33. Environmental Defense Center v. Bruce Babbitt | 93-1847 | California, Central | 4,700.00 | |
34. Environmental Defense Center v. Bruce Babbitt | 93-1848 | California, Central | 4,700.00 | |
35. Environmental Defense Center v. Babbitt | 93-3379 | California, Central | 4,300.00 | |
36. Desert Tortoise, et al. v. Lujan | 93-0114 | California, North | 69,000.00 | |
37. Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance v. Bruce Babbitt | 93-2376 | Colorado | 8,500.00 | |
38. Greater Yellowstone Coalition, et al. v. F. Dale Robertson (Chief, USFWS) | 93-1495 | District of Columbia | 32,750.00 | |
39. Natural Resources Defense Council, et al. v. Bruce Babbitt, Sec. DOI | 93-0301 | California, North | 262,096.76 | |
40. Sierra Club, et al. v. Bruce Babbitt, et al. | 93-1717 | California, South | 11,368.76 | |
41. Greater Gila Biodiversity Project v. USFWS | 93-1913 | Arizona | 11,000.00 | |
42. Sierra Club, et al. v. David Garber, et al. | 93-069 | Montana | 55,000.00 | |
43. Bay Institute of San Francisco v. Lujan | 92-2132 | California, East | 60,000.00 | |
44. Pacific Rivers Council v. Thomas | 92-1322 | Oregon | 165,000.00 | |
45. Colorado Wildlife Federation v. Turner | 92-884 | Colorado | 31,351.90 | |
46. Colorado Wildlife Federation v. Turner | 92-884 | Colorado | 5,000.00 | |
47. Environmental Defense Center v. Lujan | 92-6082 | California, Central | 7,500.00 | |
48. Idaho Conservation League v. Manuel Lujan, et al. | 92-0260 | Idaho | 21,166.00 | |
49. Canadian Lynx, Greater Ecosystem Alliance v. Lujan | 21-1269 | Washington, West | 2,000.00 | |
50. Canadian Lynx, Greater Ecosystem Alliance v. Lujan | 92-1269 | Washington, West | 9,500.00 | |
51. Friends of Walker Creek Wetlands v. Dept. of the Interior | 92-1626 | Oregon | 12,000.00 | |
52. Idaho Conservation League, et al. v. Lujan | 92-0406 | Idaho | 8,000.00 | |
53. Fund for Animals v. Manuel Lujan, et al. | 92-800 | District of Columbia | 67,500.00 | |
54. National Audubon Society v. Lujan | 92-209 | California, South | 7,348.75 | |
55. Wendell Wood, et al. v. Manuel Lujan, et al. | 91-6496 | Oregon | 14,547.05 | |
56. Wendell Wood, et al. v. Manuel Lujan, et al. | 91-6496 | Oregon | 550.00 | |
57. California Native Plant Society v. Manuel Lujan, Jr. | 91-0038 | California, East | 16,678.25 | |
58. Earth Island Institute, et al. v. Manuel Lujan, Jr. | 91-6015 | Oregon | 32,338.70 | |
59. The Fund for Animals ein., et al. v. Turner | 91-2201 | District of Columbia | 36,000.00 | |
60. West Snowy Plover v. Lujan | 91-1421 | Washington, West | 7,710.92 | |
61. Edward Wilkinson Mudd Jr. v. William Reilly, Admin., EPA | 91-1392 | Alabama, North | 39,000.00 | |
62. Hawaiian Crow v. Manuel Lujan | 91-00191 | Hawaii | 195,000.00 | |
63. Sierra Club v. Lujan | 91-069 | Texas, West | 666,666.67 | |
64. Sierra Club v. Lujan | 91-069 | Texas, West | 666,666.67 | |
65. Sierra Club v. Lujan | 91-069 | Texas, West | 666,666.66 | |
66. Sierra Club v. Lujan | 91-069 | Texas, West | 1,550,000.00 | |
67. Marbled Murrelet, et al. v. Manuel Lujan | 91-522 | Washington, West | 43,519.49 | |
68. Marbled Murrelet, et al. v. Manuel Lujan | 91-522 | Washington, West | 17,589.98 | |
69. Dioxin/Organichlorine Center and Columbia River United v. Dana Rasmussen | 91-1442 | Washington, West | 61,500.00 | |
70. Colorado Envtl. Coalition v. J. Turner | 91-1765 | Colorado | 5,168.40 | |
71. Florida Key Deer, et al. v. Robert H. Morris | 90-10037 | Florida, South | 130,000.00 | |
72. Conservation Council for Hawaii, et al. v. Manuel Lujan and John F. Turner | 89-00953 | Hawaii | 44,635.25 | |
73. National Wildlife Federation, et al. v. Robert Mosbacher, Sec. of Commerce | 89-2089 | District of Columbia | 42,500.00 | |
74. Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund v. Manuel Lujan, Jr., Sec. of Interior, et al. | 89-1140 | District of Columbia | 9,000.00 | |
75. Sierra Club, et al. v. James A. Baker, et al | 89-3005 | District of Columbia | 18,583.72 | |
76. Resources Limited Inc., et al. v. F. Dale Robertson, et al. | 89-41 | Montana | 90,000.00 47,000.00 |
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77. Environmental Defense Fund v. Lujan | 89-2034 | District of Columbia | 2,237.50 | |
78. Silver Rice Rat, et al. v. Manuel Lujan | 89-3409 | District of Columbia | 19,500.00 | |
79. Northern Spotted Owl, et al. v. Donald Hodel, et al. | 88-573 | Washington, West | 56,718.00 | |
80. World Wildlife Fund v. Donald P. Hodel, et al. | 88-573 | 56,000.00 | ||
81. Sierra Club and League for Coastal Protection v. John Marsh, et al. | 86-1942 | California, South | 44,774.16 | |
82. Greenpeace v. Baldrige | 86-0129 | Hawaii | 88,794.01 | |
83. Sierra Club, et al. v. Richard Lyng | 85-69 | Texas, East | 149,647.50 | |
84. Natural Resources Defense Council v. Donald Hodel (Kesterson) | 85-1214 | California, East | 518.000.00 | |
85. Natural Resources Defense Council v. Donald Hodel (Kesterson) | 85-1214 | California, East | 57.000.00 | |
86. Natl. Wildlife Foundation, et al. v. Endangered Species Committee, et al. | 79-1851 | District of Columbia | 20,000.00 | |
87. Defenders of Wildlife v. Thomas | Strychnine | Minnesota | 122,500.00 |
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Sad to say but with every new fire, with each home destroyed, as tragic and needless as that is, the general public seems to be growing in its distaste for thse loonies and their disastrous policies.
Your hope is a lot closer to reality than we may think.
If this clymer was a conservative, I'm a leftist!
This clymer needs to be subpoenaed by Ben Lighthorse and Senator Super K from Arizona to find out how involved he and his enviral Nazis buddies were re the no roads policies.
Out of the loop Furnish did not expect to make policy for the new administration, but he did expect that his senior post would give him the right to express his views and be included in policy discussions. Instead, he was shut out.
In the Clinton administration, he played a key role in shaping the policy of banning road building and logging in almost 60 million acres of national forest land. He also was central to an initiative that would have required forest planners to consider environmental preservation above all other goals when deciding how national forests would be managed.
This Druid Clymer is the walking smoking gun re setting up our forests to become the tinder boxes they are now!
He and any of his Druid Organizations should be sued in Civil Court for damages due their agendas of no roads and no harvesting of trees.
Senator Jon Kyl has lambasted the Southwest Center for Biodiversity in his statement at Show Low last week. Here is something from his website:
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"Environmentally-sound strategies such as forest thinning and controlled burns clear away small, dry, and disease-prone trees and underbrush that serve as kindling for fires and prevent healthy growth. Arizonans can see the results of such proper forest-management techniques firsthand. The White Mountain Fort Apache Indian Reservation, Mount Trumbell, and other places in our state prove that properly-thinned forests are not only healthier and fire-resistant, but much more attractive. "Yet standing in the way of these efforts are radical environmentalists who file litigation and seek to otherwise obstruct forest treatment. They would rather the forests burn than to see sensible forest management. As of last month, there were 5,000 legal challenges pending against the U.S. Forest Service, which devotes nearly 40 percent of its resources to defending against lawsuits and complying with environmental regulations. This is time and money taken away from fighting fires."Along with other Western Senators, I am proposing legislation shortly to establish an ecological research institute in Arizona that will work with land managers to implement forest-restoration treatments throughout the state. As it happens, my request for $1 million in federal funding for a pilot program to treat Apache-Sitgreaves through forest thinning was granted shortly before this wildfire broke out. We will work to fund more pilot programs throughout the state, because as long as we leave our forests untreated, we will guarantee catastrophic damage."
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I suppose any admin has policies that irk some - and they leave, for reasons stated or otherwise.
One here said that the Govt. failed to pursue penalties. that's believable. Another complains about "fire roads." That's quite overly sensitive. There seems to be an ongoing debate about forest management and fires. As for the road issue, that's pathetic.
It's folks like you that make FR so great.
EV
Some of the best news I've heard lately. The Bush people are doing their job. Great.
I'm having a hard time remembering the articles about Bush Sr. people that left when the Clintonistas took power.
I know the media wasn't too worried when Hillary fired all of the US Attorneys.
Anything the a government does is paid for initially or eventually by taxpayers! Merkel and the other officials who quit said they left many disgruntled colleagues behind.
I raise my glass in praising their decision to leave. May they soon suffer the same as the people who have lived under their decisions while they were with environmental agencies
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