Polyp-stinian - in it's pre-cancerous form...
Posted on 07/03/2002 5:03:57 AM PDT by BenF
Let us clearly understand the nature and goal of Israel's enemies, The "Palestinians". First, no less than 68% of these Arabs OPENLY exalt suicide bombers, and a much larger percentage is committed to Israel's extermination. These two related facts make these Muslims more barbaric than the Nazis!
Second, the leader of these Islamic Nazis, Yasser Arafat, has a very simple objective, and that is to kill as many Jews as possible, especially women and children - women because they bear children, and children because they will some day become soldiers.
Now, we see that Arafat and his PLO-Palestinian Authority have trained innumerable Arabs, including a generation of Arab children, to be or become suicide bombers. Suppose this Nobel Peace Laureate and his "Palestinian" minions field 2,500 suicide bombers during the next 12 months, and that 10% or 250 succeed (God forbid) in their murderous objective. Leaving aside the likelihood of an eventual "mega" terrorist attack, but bearing in mind that many suicide bombers will inevitably be equipped with less detectable and yet deadlier explosives - suppose each homocide bomb kills, on an average, 30 Jews and wounds 300 more. That means 7,500 Jews dead as well as 75,500 Jews wounded - of whom tens of thousands will be physically and psychologically disabled. In addition, many thousands who witness Jews blown to bits will also be psychologically disabled and will suffer Post Traumatic Syndrome Disorders.
The country will collapse.
This is the objective of the "Palestinians", and this is why the Israel Defense Forces must regain and retain complete control of the areas which criminally irresponsible Israeli governments have turned over to the "Palestinians". These "Palestinians", far from deserving independent statehood, deserve to be conquered, just as Nazi Germany was conquered. Only then will it be possible, after at least one generation, to transform these savages into civilized human beings. But then they will NOT deserve to have a democratic state of their own on Jewish soil! Not at all. Jews have suffered more than enough from these monsters. Jews and Jews alone have a God-given right to Eretz Yisrael,
Israel's ruling "elites" - secular and religious - have dismally failed to assert this right. It is they who created the fictitious Palestinian people. It is they who resurrected Yasser Arafat. It is they who created suicide bombers - all this by failing to transform into public policy the miracle of the Six Day War, that is, by failing to incorporate, by explicit law, Judea, Samaria, and Gaza into the State of Israel. By failing to do so, these elites instilled or reinforced in these Arabs (and in countless others) the falsehood that this land belongs to Ishmael's descendants.
Even now, after the murder of 561 Jews in the last 21 months, the Sharon government, which is morally responsible for most of these deaths, continues its half-hearted policy of weeding out terrorists. President George W. Bush, in his unprecedented speech of June 24, has (again) given Israel's government the green light to eliminate Arafat and his PLO-Palestinian Authority (which Mr. Sharon should have done immediately after September 11 (and could then have done within one week).
I repeat: the "Palestinians" must be conquered, else they will never be "democratized". No security fence can stop them from training suicidebombers to murder Jews, and many will succeed in doing so. No security fence will prevent them from acquiring more and deadlier weapons - and then they will the more readily target Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. A security fence will only intensify their contempt for Israel, knowing that Israel's government has the power to conquer them but refrains from doing so. A security fence will make them more desperate, more insane, more convinced of the justice of their cause, for which they will train more and more suicide bombers.
However much one may praise President Bush for denouncing, by implication, Yasser Arafat and publicly calling for a "different Palestinian leadership, Israel must take its destiny into its own hands. This will require a different Israeli leadership, one wholeheartedly dedicated to the noble heritage and world-historical mission of the Jewish People. Lacking such leadership, Israel will fail to conquer its implacable and genocidal enemies. Failing this, Israel will collapse.
HOMOCIDE?
Nevertheless I would like to see a military victory rather than a negotiated settlement. That is the only way the Arabs will understand who is in charge. It worked for us after WWII against the Germans and Japanese and it can work for the Israelis against the Arabs. The Palies are in a state of homicidal hysteria whipped up by fanatics. A sound military thrashing by the Israelis and the killing of most of the militants will allow the moderate Palies to emerge. Then you will see an unexpected change in the attitudes in many of the Palies. That's after their hysterical bloodlust has been conquered and the worst killers annihilated. But referring to ALL Palies as animals does no good because it's not true. No group of humans is all animals. A large majority can be led around by the nose by a small minority as the nazis and commies proved. The Arabs are no different.
I have to disagree with you on a number of points. First, referring to the bombers and those who support them as "savages" one time in the entire article doesn't constitute "throwing" the word around in my book. Perhaps it does in yours. Second, the author has not "characterized the entire population as worthy of being slaughtered". I don't see that at all. Where did you get this impression?
Remember thirty two percent of Palestinians do not approve of their governments policies. Can you imagine thirty two percent of Germans under Hitler saying that?
I think you are missing something. The author claims that 68% OPENLY approve of bombers. That doesn't mean that 32% disapprove. It just means that they're not open about it.
The Palies are in a state of homicidal hysteria whipped up by fanatics.
Again, we will have to respectfully disagree. Historically, the Arabs have always slaughtered Jews and done so with particular lust and glee. They do not need "whipping up" nor are those who incite them "fanatics". They are plain, ordinary Arabs, usually Muslims.
A sound military thrashing by the Israelis and the killing of most of the militants will allow the moderate Palies to emerge. Then you will see an unexpected change in the attitudes in many of the Palies.
I have to disagree again - partially. The "military thrashing" must precede a policy of denazification where those who espouse violence and "Palestinian" nationalism are eliminated. The remaining so-called "moderate Palestinians" must assume a new identity - one free from nationalism which includes any part of the Jewish homeland. Otherwise, they will merely wait until the next opportunity to murder Jews.
But referring to ALL Palies as animals does no good because it's not true. No group of humans is all animals.
Excuse me, but the only one who referred to them as "animals" is you. The author did not and I certainly did not. I would never refer to the Arabs as animals because animals do not murder their own kind for pure pleasure.
A large majority can be led around by the nose by a small minority as the nazis and commies proved. The Arabs are no different.
I respectfully suggest you study your history regarding the nazis and the Arabs. You may find that you are mistaken regarding the "small minority".
Write on, Paul Eidelberg!
Make that exterminated. Unlike some of the other posts in this thread, I think the term savages is totally appropriate. Any culture that supports the kind of barbaric behavior that this one does can't be described any other way. To debate whether 32% do or don't is pointless in times of war.
You need to get a grip amigo. If you're going to go ballistic over such hair-splitting, you're not going win many friends. I guess my agreement with the prof that the Palies need to be militarily conquered completely escaped you. My objection to the overt Arabs-are-all-evil tone of the article remains. These people are not ALL savages and monsters but a people who need to have their leaders eliminated one way or the other and the homicidal maniacs cowing the others killed. Germany and Japan were no different. If we had had to invade Japan, many of the common Japanese would have gladly murdered as many GIs as possible. After they were thoroughly defeated, the Japanese and the Germans submitted meekly to the Allie's terms. The common Arabs are no different from any other people. We can change their minds too. But it will take time, and a certain amount of reward and punishment ideology administered to them. By the way, what exactly is the "world-historical mission" of the Israelis?
I don't see the basis for this assumption, but you're entitled to your opinion.
You need to get a grip amigo. If you're going to go ballistic over such hair-splitting, you're not going win many friends.
Your definition of "ballistic" and mine must vary considerably. I endeavored to correct your "exaggerations" and I thought I did so with respect. If you feel I've insulted you, I apologize.
I guess my agreement with the prof that the Palies need to be militarily conquered completely escaped you.
Not at all.
My objection to the overt Arabs-are-all-evil tone of the article remains.
I didn't think I would be able to convince you that this is NOT the tone of the article, but I did try.
These people are not ALL savages and monsters but a people who need to have their leaders eliminated one way or the other and the homicidal maniacs cowing the others killed.
On this point, we agree.
Germany and Japan were no different.
On this, we disagree.
The common Arabs are no different from any other people.
On this, we disagree.
Have you ever read the Torah?
If you're serious, ask your co-worker. I get the impression that you're looking for something to lampoon. As such, I'd rather not inform you.
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