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[Karson]

I don't know much about the drug testing but I'm thinking their results might be "iffy" without blood, urine etc. And of course, the time factor.

[Karson]

We need a new thread!

[John Jamieson]

See it if you can. It will break your heart:

Forenic Files on Court TV see local listings
"Man's Best Friend?" - The John Miller/Debbie Loveless Case

When a young girl was found dead in her back yard, her parents told police that she was attacked and killed by the family dogs. Investigators did not agree -- and believed that the girl's wounds were not dog bites at all, but a slashing injury, consistent with a knife wound. The parents were found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison. Five years later, the parent's prayers were answered when a forensic scientist saw something in the crime scene photographs that had been missed the first time around.

[RnMomof7]

They can test hair...your hair is like a notebook with a list of your drug use.

I have done alot of work with drug testing but not hair.

I do know that they can trace thye drug and estimate the time it was used up to a few months .Notice how many guys have shaved heads there days? no accident

hair testing

[RnMomof7]

actually hair is a good source as is tissue..in this case I would guess hair......IF they really wanted to find out what was there..and that is a BIG IF

[pyx]

Damon: "Brenda was in the shower when they arrived. I remember because I could hear the water running upstairs from where I sat playing video games with the boys, while Danielle was hunched over her diary at the table, where she had been for two hours previously. But I could hear the water, I could definitely hear the water."

If Brenda was upstairs in the shower, who was with Danielle when she went to "Boo" Denise and Barb when they arrived ?

What seven year old have you ever heard of that spends TWO SOLID HOURS writing in a diary ?

[Rheo]

Knowing what we know now...a very big IF.

I'm trying to figure out how they could find a shell casing in her room and not put any gun/ammo related stuff on the search warrant?

What would be their justification as to not if they were really trying to solve this?

[Freedom2specul8]

NEW THREAD ALERT: weekend discussion

[Politicalmom]

My older daughter is six and a half. She spends maybe ten minutes "writing a letter". My son is eight. He has a great vocabulary, and is very articulate, but give him a pencil, and he is reduced to counting words trying to make his sentences longer.

I was a teacher, and I have NEVER known a child of seven to have a "journal" that they weren't forced to keep. : )

After all, how much deep and profound thinking does a normal child do? She sounds like a VERY lonely child to me.
A young child shouldn't have to tell things to a book, she should be telling her parents. My kids have motor mouths, although my daughter is a quiet, shy child. But with Mommy and Daddy, every thought spills out of her head like a waterfall.

I wonder what secrets poor Danielle had?

[Freedom2specul8]

Would you mind sharing info about gifted children at that age, especially with regard to writing skills?

[Rheo]

I wonder if that Boo story was just to make her seem more kid like and doing something other than reading and writing for 2+ hours on a Friday night?

[RnMomof7]

They do not want to know. i wonder who is covering up and WHY

[pyx]

Are we to believe he has been downloading, catagorizing the porn and transferring it to cd's with file labels identical to his dad's, since he was 14 or 15, no less?

Are you actually questioning if a fifteen year old boy is interested in porn ? If so, a better question would be, what fifteen year old boy is not interested in looking at naked women ? The answer is obvious, of course teenage boys are interested in that unless they're abnormal.

If the porn was downloaded as large .ZIP file(s), the images and digital movies already may well have been compressed, CATEGORIZED and RECURSED into directories within the .ZIP file itself. Unzipping the file uncompresses the stored images and depending on the flags passed to the unzip program, directory names and structures are also restored. Then again, if the porn was downloaded in BULK from a USENET newsgroup, the thousands of images also may very well be categorized and prenumbered. Or perhaps, if the pornography was downloaded from a web site, using either http or ftp to transfer the pictures may very well be categorized into directories and file numbers on the web site server or they can be stored in various intermediate file formats.

[Rheo]

i wonder who is covering up and WHY

That is the motive question that needs to be solved.

Someone needs to volunteer to go "undercover" at the swap club.....and see what high placed puds show up.

[juzcuz]

The boo story was a cover for Danielle, by Brenda. Brenda said (WE) booooed them. Is that BOOO thing something that a sofisticated adult would do- NO. I think Brenda was covering for Danielle who was "into something extra-ordinary" out in the front yard-on her own. But, why did Brenda volunteer that? This is a good question. Maybe because, Denise and Barbara were REALLY scared by the dangerous actions of Danielle. Maybe she ran across their moving car to BOOO them, they had already consumed a bottle of wine. Maybe Brenda and knew how (D&B) would testify of the incident, and Brenda decided to cover for Danielle. This would ultimately C Her A, for not be the watchfull parent she pretends to be.

[Rheo]

Could be.

That whole arrival thing is different depending on who tells it...she was in the shower..I was cleaning the kitchen....Danielle and I were out scaring our arriving guests, etc...geez.

Denise tells it and they scared her..not her and Barb...then Danielle is at that kitchen table, writing away and selling her cookies.

Would love to hear from those little boys, bless their hearts.

[185JHP]

I read a book, earlier his summer, about the nasty way the Dr. Sam Shepard case was conducted, and I felt sad - but then I thought "Well, that was the "duck and cover 50s", and felt better. Then, I began reading these threads. Obvious stuff isn't obvious to some. But OTOH the nastiest posters left - after they got expeditiously and appropriately pounded...

[juzcuz]

From what I understand Barb. has a different take on alot of things about that evening. I wonder if she would state something different about the incident than Denise and Brenda. That would be interesting to know.

Then again maybe boooing is a (common)adult welcome amongst their swing club. HEEEEEE

[Rheo]

I wonder if she would state something different about the incident than Denise and Brenda

Well, yeah..haven't they all?..lol

Now I'm curious about this again...need to read the PH and trial on both BVD and Denise...see who mentions it first and in which questioning.

[pyx]

I would be so bold to say that there are few if any child porn websites out there.

Be as bold as you like. And you are completely wrong.

WARNING TO OTHERS ! I'll get a bit technical below but I'll fight to keep it simple. I've tried to avoid any real computer technical discussion on these threads. I can't avoid it any longer in this case. My apologies to others in advance for the boredom I am about to induce.
There are moveable or DYNAMIC websites. In short, people who run their website from a DYNAMIC IP address rather than a STATIC IP address.

In your web browser type in http://209.157.64.200 and whack your {Enter] key.

209.157.64.200 is freerepublic.com and always will be until JimRob or someone on his behalf or his ISP changes it.
FreeRepublic.com ALWAYS has that same dotted quad IP address, its a static IP. MOST computers (which happen to be home computers) connecting to the Internet have dynamic IP addresses assigned to them by their ISPs. Just about any fool can put up a dynamic website with pornography (or anything else for that matter) on it (presuming you know what software to use and how to set it up) and all that fool has to do is advertise to others where to visit.

So if a fool wanted to set up a dynamic pornography image SWAP website, its pretty straight forward.
So, to use your example, the fool would simply flood USENET Newsgroups and other places with the IP de jour of his or her child pornography website because their pornography swap site will be available under that IP adderss for several days or weeks until their ISP's dhcpd host (the special daemon process that assigns the IP address in the first place) says "Hey the lease time on that host IP is up !" and reassigns a different dynamic IP.

(I really don't want to explain things in any more detail than I have above. If thread readers want to read more about these things, there are a myriad and plethora of libraries of introductory information online where you can read the basics that I've simply glossed over above. Like I said, I own an automobile and I know how to change the spark plugs but I am not an automechanic. Sometimes a little knowledge is dangerous.)

So, inspite of your pronouncement above;
There is tons of child pornography online at any one time.

Other readily available sources of pornography are also only a few keystrokes away. Do a search of kiddie porn or child porn or just plain porn on yahoo.com or google. Or better, connect to your own ISP's news servers. Or to public news servers that are available online. This has been discussed at length before. Spend a few hours (I strongly recommend you keep a large plastic bucket handy to puke into) in the USENET newsgroups like
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.schoolgirls or
alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica.amateur or
any of the other hundreds of USENET news groups from all over the world that have pornography images available to freely download. In any one of those hundreds of pornography image and digital movie newsgroups there are MANY child porn images. People hack news servers and other machines on the internet to traffic, post and download this sort of filth. USENET News is only ONE of the ways of archiving, swapping or transmitting images. There are many other methods.

Its a BIG WORLD out there. The internet is MORE than just webpages. And at the same time, some websites are archives that don't resemble what you'd think is a website when in fact they are storage repositories for filth.
Go onto IRC and get randomly spammed to visit poronography sites by broadcasted messages from strangers.

The market for filth is massive. You're in denial or terribly naive to suggest otherwise. Knowing how unhealthy and addictive it is, is the best way to not get swept up in it. Your statement above is plain wrong.