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EXPERT LINKS PORN TO WESTERFIELD'S SON!: (Feldman's Message To "The Damon"; Don't Leave Town!)
KNSD NBC ^ | July 3, 2002 | KNBC

Posted on 07/03/2002 3:36:43 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: nycgal; Jaded
I wish I lived closer to the SD courthouse. I'd love to do some freeping there. Sample signs: "What about the shell casing?", "Let's hear from Barbara", "Who belongs to the unID'd prints?"

LOL--and Jaded could come with her "Free Ninja Dave" poster!

841 posted on 07/05/2002 5:52:16 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
So. Where is it? Not at DW's house. Not in his motorhome. Maybe in Danielle's bedroom, but they're blaming that on Layla. Dollars to donuts the carpet wasn't tested.

Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner. All that Layla testimony didn't make sense to me. Now I see. Layla provides a smokescreen for perhaps a lot of damning evidence. It seemed so silly to spend time at a murder trial talking about a poorly housebroken dog (guess BVD didn't have time for her, either), but not if that dog becomes a convenient patsy for a coverup.

Makes the mysterious dog bed that much more important, too.

Thanks for all the solid thinking you've put into this.

842 posted on 07/05/2002 6:03:52 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: MizSterious
What do we know about Halfman? Was she a friend of all of theirs? Is she a member of the CB Club? Was she sent to keep the lid on revelations of hanky panky further up at SDPD? Did she eat pizza?

She has been very visible publically to be an undercover connection, hasn't she? But then this is a group who hope to get the death penalty for an unrolled hose and whiter whites! lol

843 posted on 07/05/2002 6:08:31 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Yes, that was a good point someone brought up on FR as well. Can't remember who it was. DW could have purchased a $20 plastic fitted mattress protector from walmart.. wrapped her up...etc.. disposed of it, burned it somewhere..
844 posted on 07/05/2002 6:33:42 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
But, according to most theories, this was a crime of opportunity. Most "hang'em now" posters have said he got drunk, blacked out and stole her from her room, etc. etc.--this would have required a good deal of premeditation, going out and buying plastic for the bed, and so on. Sorry. Doesn't fly.
845 posted on 07/05/2002 6:36:04 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: pinz-n-needlez
In one of the articles, it was mentioned that she was a van Dam "family friend." We also know she's retired LE (because of a job related injury) and worked as go-between for the van Dams, LE and media during the month of February.
846 posted on 07/05/2002 6:37:45 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
Theories are educated guesses based on known evidence. He did not have a blood alcohol test that night so we really don't know how drunk he was. He could have for sure premeditated because one theory was that he was stalking danielle for a long time.
847 posted on 07/05/2002 6:38:08 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Well, you can't have it both ways. He can't have been drunk and blacked out and have planned this days or weeks in advance at the same time. It would have been one or the other, but not both.

Too many people want to have it both ways, so long as the outcome is DW gets the death penalty. If he did it, they need to prove it by more than smoke and mirrors. There are just too many holes in this case--and too few people showing concern over them.
848 posted on 07/05/2002 6:42:59 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: demsux
Hi dem...We're back from our mini vacation. The nice sheriff in a podunk town in Arkansas made sure we had a safe one...(Can you say "speed trap"..) he gave Mr. Spectre a speeding ticket and we were little angels on the road after that. EVERYONE was passing us, because we were finally doing the speed limit...go figure.

Just be careful...have fun!

sw

849 posted on 07/05/2002 6:47:46 AM PDT by spectre
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To: MizSterious
Obviously he couldn't have known weeks in advance what the vd's were going to do on that particular friday night. But he simply could have found an opportunity....from BVD herself...and decided to himself "hey, maybe I can ...", went out, bought the cover and sat in wait. Or maybe he had it for a long time, waiting for the right moment..if he ever had the chance. (or his son??)

No, it's not that people want to have it both ways. No one wants an innocent man convicted either..There again, prayer to God to prevent or stop that from happening! There are missing pieces to the puzzle, and the speculation, filling in the blanks...is imagining what the puzzle pieces are that are missing..and doing that is based on the rest of the puzzle pieces that are known. For example, The theory about the parents doing it would have a bit more validity if there were no blood and fibers in the MH, and dw's behaviour wasn't so different to the dry cleaner clerk ..that is based on known evidence.

I understand some of your alls theories as well...like danielle sneaking in the MH and bled a few drops. At this point, are we to assume that she went in by herself cuz there are no known playmates that have gone in there???

850 posted on 07/05/2002 6:57:46 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: MizSterious
Thanks.

I remember early descriptions of her role saying that she helped the VDs understand police procedures and ways of doing things. How sweet and innocuous.

But given what we now know about the VDs and how much we know that we don't know (because they've lied/hidden so much), one can't help but think that she may have had a hand in all those fibers and hairs that weren't analyzed and compared, all those hand prints that weren't checked with the database.

And all the places in the MH that weren't dusted for prints. As if someone was told where to check for just the print they needed to nail DW. Kind of like the searchers went to Dehesa Rd. on a 'hunch.' It's amazing how the hunches just seem to pin one more piece of evidence on DW.

Could Halfman been coordinating 'leads' between the VDs and the SDPD? She would know how to word an interview to justify getting a Search Warrant......

Just wild speculation on my part.

851 posted on 07/05/2002 6:58:12 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: MizSterious
The "plastic" for the bed, suggests premeditation. Which was it...drunk impulse or premeditation? DW would have NEVER slept with a plastic mattress cover. He was to hot-blooded and perspired easily..(JMO).. Ever try to sleep on one of those? Talk about "sweating"...geeze.

I think DW was only trying to protect his son from the publicity concerning the kids porno exploration, because he never, ever dreamed it would go this far when he said it was HIS porno.

DW was acting like a father, sheltering his own son, but didn't know it was going to be the entire MOTIVE in a case against him.

sw

852 posted on 07/05/2002 6:59:20 AM PDT by spectre
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To: MizSterious
Forget the Kimchee "He bought a mattress pad" dream, all you have to do is ask one simple question of yourself. You have just killed a small child. You roam around with her in your MH in the wilds of California. So why do you want the body found??

Remember, the whole purpose of focusing on his wilderness sojourn is to suggest that he did so to escape detection and dump her body somewhere. Nice choice of location!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would DW (if he had killed her and carted her around) be concerned that someone find her remains????

If I had killed her, I assure you she would have been buried very deep in the most remote place I could find. I would never want the chance for the police or anyone to discover the body.

But old DW, he doesn't care. You see he has a turn of heart. He wants to now make sure that Busty Brenda and the Demon Seed have the chance to bury their child.

No way. Doesn't wash. Any person slightly above brain-dead (and I believe we know who that is) knows (just from watching television) that forensics can uncover a multitude of clues from any crime site.

DW was an intelligent person. He would have had to have known that by dumping the body where someone would eventually stumble across it he was inviting trouble.

Only two people would have benefited from her being found. Wonder who those two might be.....................?????????

853 posted on 07/05/2002 7:06:28 AM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: Doc Savage
They're not pads...they're cheao thin fitted plastic sheets and um, are we trying to suppress theories and opinions now? Surely not..
854 posted on 07/05/2002 7:09:27 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Doc Savage
cheao = cheap
855 posted on 07/05/2002 7:09:51 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: spectre
If Danielle was a sleepwalker, was there a gate at the top of the stairs so she won't fall down them at night? If not, maybe she wasn't a sleepwalker. Also, wasn't it the masterbedroom where Damon shampooed the carpet because of the dog. Maybe it wasn't the dog that peed there, maybe it was Danielle when she died???
856 posted on 07/05/2002 7:13:05 AM PDT by Lucky
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To: Doc Savage
What do some people think DW did? Walk into the local 7/24 hour Wal-mart Super Center and say to himself "Hey, I think I'll buy a Mattress Pad"...oh yeah..I can just picture that!

sw

857 posted on 07/05/2002 7:13:25 AM PDT by spectre
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To: Doc Savage
Great logic.

And if you had a body that needed to be secretly buried, would you first drive it around half of known creation in the most ostentatious vehicle ever devised by man??????

858 posted on 07/05/2002 7:13:36 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: spectre
If this wasn't a spur of the moment abduction...if he'd been stalking and waiting for the opportunity he indeed COULD HAVE purchased the thin cheap fitted mattress cover days or weeks in advance... that's just speculation..
859 posted on 07/05/2002 7:17:47 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Doc Savage
In addition, wrt:burying in a shallow grave vs dumping like trash along the roadside..the massive search and rescue teams could have surpassed his expectations ...
860 posted on 07/05/2002 7:19:46 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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