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Factories leave Mexico to find cheaper labor
Washington Post via Seattle Times ^ | July 4, 2002 | Mary Jordan

Posted on 07/04/2002 1:17:48 AM PDT by sarcasm

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

TIJUANA, Mexico

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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: factories; mexico
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1 posted on 07/04/2002 1:17:48 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: FITZ
ping
2 posted on 07/04/2002 1:19:18 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
An entry-level factory worker in Tijuana earns $1.50
to $2 an hour, compared with 25 cents an hour in
parts of China.
3 posted on 07/04/2002 1:25:11 AM PDT by RLK
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To: sarcasm
I read somewhere that the labor costs in China are 1/3 of those in Mexico and 5% of those in US. It might be even cheaper in some other countries, but their infrastructure is not as good as of those in China.
4 posted on 07/04/2002 1:37:31 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: sarcasm
More unemployed Mexicans. These people aren't farm workers. The won't be rushing north to find equivalent jobs. The jobs already left the U.S. for Mexico, China and Taiwan.
5 posted on 07/04/2002 2:01:31 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I understand that over 900,000 young Mexicans enter the labor market each year - the Mexican economy, in a good year, produces only 250,000 new jobs.
6 posted on 07/04/2002 2:07:14 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
Best wishes for a happy and safe holiday, everyone.

My holiday wish is that US citizens stop and reflect about what is happening here, globally. It isn't just the US losing jobs (and not just low paying ones to "do work we won't do ourselves"...which is nonsense). Now, it's Mexicans. Then, it'll be some other country taking the jobs of those workers in SE Asia.

It's exploitation on a global level. Our pay scale, our expectations, our standard of living, they're all being lowered. Global corporations (probably eventually based somewhere where nobody much cares what the books say) will be the new governments, keeping more for themselves, giving less to expendable workers. A few elite will run everything, control the media, cause disruptions of govenments and nations where necessary in their power grab.

Had to get the extremism off my mind. Before the holiday stuff. With reasonably intelligent and informed people. Who will just roll their eyes and nod patiently if I give even a hint of this perspective.

7 posted on 07/04/2002 2:20:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Happy holiday to you too!

Check this out:

Mulally: Global Boeing must share

Competitiveness demands that the new, more global Boeing Co. share its work and its wealth with workers around the world, the company's highest-ranking Pacific Northwest executive said Tuesday in Tacoma.

Alan Mulally, president of Boeing Commercial Airplanes Group, said Boeing can't act like British colonialists extracting wealth from other countries and exporting it all back home.

Mulally, speaking to The News Tribune editorial board, said that with 70 percent of Boeing's commercial airplanes sold to airlines operating outside the United States, Boeing has an obligation to build parts of its aircraft overseas.

"We just operate everywhere," he said. "We need to include everybody around the world in the asset utilization. They buy our products and pay up. We can't just extract wealth from other countries and pay ourselves.

"And the United States has no divine right to our standard of living," Mulally added, defending Boeing's overseas parts production.

The issue of performing work overseas is a sensitive area with Puget Sound Boeing workers who have made limiting out-sourcing one of their top priorities in ongoing labor negotiations.

The Boeing executive said the company wants to concentrate on what it does best: design, sales, marketing and large-scale integration of complex products.

"Competitiveness is at the top - the very top - of our agenda. Whatever we choose to do, we have to do it and add value better than anybody else in the world.

"Because that's what we believe in. That's capitalism. That's market forces."

Mulally said Boeing's skill at large-scale system integration is unique.

"Very few people in the world can build an airplane and make it safe. So the most important thing that we do is product development, sales, marketing, new airplanes, new services and taking care of our customers."

Mulally said doing what the company does best may well mean farming out more parts production elsewhere.

"We just operate in this very global enterprise. Does that mean over time that we'll make less parts? We keep gravitating where we can add more value.

"Does that mean we can include everybody that we can? Absolutely. Does that mean we will keep nurturing our business with China and Singapore and Japan? Absolutely. Is that good for business? Absolutely. Do we want to include everybody that we can? Absolutely."

The Boeing chief said he's eager to see the Puget Sound area solve some of its infrastructure and competitiveness issues so it will be more attractive to businesses. Mulally headed a statewide competitiveness council that recommended solutions to the Legislature.

The penchant for government to repeatedly study what to do and how to finance those improvements and then fail to act is particularly frustrating, he said.

"The most important question is not about transportation, it's not about permitting, it's not about regulation. It's about whether we, the people of the state of Washington - not Boeing - are going to keep pulling together and have great debates, and at the end of the day move forward together.

"I've never seen a set of people who want a proven solution all mapped out before we can more forward with it."

Mulally said he hopes Boeing's layoffs are nearly done. The company has laid off or issued warning notices to more than 28,000 workers.

Mulally in September said the company would lay off about 30,000 workers because of the aftereffects of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

But even if aircraft orders return to more normal levels, Mulally predicted, the company's payroll won't return to former levels.

Boeing will add workers very conservatively.

Increasing productivity will ultimately mean fewer jobs, he said

8 posted on 07/04/2002 2:28:04 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
bump.
9 posted on 07/04/2002 2:43:59 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: sarcasm
"And the United States has no divine right to our standard of living," Mulally added, defending Boeing's overseas parts production.

Wow. I remember those school days in the '50s and '60s when we learned that the US was special, and decent, and the workers did have a divne right to this standard of living. And we would protect it, through unions (I know, bad word around here), and careful control of immigration, and a government we could trust.

The idea was we'd stay independent and free and the rest of the world would look up to us and want to be like us and that's how our system of government and way of life would spread.

Things sure have changed.

10 posted on 07/04/2002 2:44:36 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Will the United States become another Brazil with the elite using helicopters for commutation so that they can avoid the impoverished rabble?
11 posted on 07/04/2002 2:52:22 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm

"It's not a crime to be in the U.S. illegally. It's a violation of civil law." -INS Deputy District Director Fred Alexander speaking to a group of "undocumented" day laborers. Marietta (Georgia) Daily Journal


The government must want them all to move here.

12 posted on 07/04/2002 3:16:38 AM PDT by bok
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To: Myrddin
Don't know where you live but you're nuts if you don't think Senorita Ruiz Brena and all her unemployed pals are not, either already headed north or will be ASAP.

They'll be taking entry level jobs in some cases sure, but those jobs should be going to our LEGAL citizens and generational welfare recipients.

But don't kid yourself, they'll also be taking jobs like my former nextdoor neighbor, an 'Overstayed Student Visa' fellow since '91, who finally got his fully U.S.Taxpayer subsidized degree at the UAA, and now works as a Flight Instructor at Merrill Field.

You know, just another one of those jobs Americans don't want, or are too lazy to work. /sarcasm

His new Japanese exchange-student-wife had their 'Anchor Baby' pronto, and she continued in Graduate School, sucking off OUR Guaranteed Student Loan program, Pell Grants, WIC, Food Stamps and whatever other assorted liberal give-away programs they hear about.

Anchorage, and Alaska in general, is swarming with all flavors of these Illegals, and nowadays it's not just the group of 2-3 20yr old males, slinking around and whispering in Espanol, but these days they quickly bring the family ... the wife, the 3-4-5 kids, the cousins and friends and even Grandma and Grandpa ... all gleefully shopping together at Fred Meyer and Costco, filling up the aisle and chattering away excitedly in Espanol.

Our culture is rapidly being changed up here. I'm certain, not one in a hundred of them obeyed our laws by standing in line, going through the legal process and playing by the rules. I get the distinct feeling these days that they are not here to BECOME Americans, they come here more to take as much as they can from America, and as fast as they can. And the 'Stupid Gringos' who don't love or care enough about their own country to maintain control of their borders and their culture, are simply a subject for ridicule, scorn and general disrespect.

They understand completely how their own country deals with Illegal intruders and invaders.

Our stupid liberal newspaper(McKlatchy Commie Daily) runs a constant stream of articles sympathetic to the " the Poor, the disadvantaged, the oppressed minority immigrant." blah, blah, blah, gag-gag-gag

Our local liberal Fed/State/Muni bureaucRATS just l-o-v-e to administer all the benefit programs necessay to lift these newly-poor up to an acceptable standard of living.

Meanwhile, seasonal jobs in entire industry sectors, jobs which used to be a summer staple for our state working citizens, have been eliminated now for WHITE Alaskan citizens and summer college students ... wages driven down to impossible level, unless you'll live 15 to a 2Br Apt.

And those job situations are completely controled now by the Philippinos, or the Mexican/S.A's. and their hiring supervisors who provide a steady supply of new workers from back down in the village

I first came to Alaska in 1964 so I've been around long enough to watch this change happen, and it is not pretty. The future will be worse. These people show no desire to assimilate ... many can barely disguise their disdain for white America.

13 posted on 07/04/2002 4:03:47 AM PDT by CIBvet
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To: sarcasm
What a surprise!!!
14 posted on 07/04/2002 4:04:54 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: CIBvet
I feel your pain. I don't like hearing Spanish chatter either. This nation is screwing itself on illegal immigration and the big corporations in the food/agriculture business are behind a good part of it. They are pulling/recruiting these 3rd world people into the United States.
15 posted on 07/04/2002 4:08:53 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: grania
This global greed will be the ruination of us all.
16 posted on 07/04/2002 4:10:16 AM PDT by DBtoo
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To: sarcasm
My question is this: Eventually, the same thing (rising wages) will happen in Asia, too. Where will the labor pool come from then?? Will the whole world price itself out of actually working?
17 posted on 07/04/2002 4:11:39 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: grania
The workers of the world are in a race to the bottom.
18 posted on 07/04/2002 4:12:25 AM PDT by CIBvet
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To: RightOnline
China currently has a virtually unlimited supply of labor.
19 posted on 07/04/2002 4:15:12 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: DBtoo
Ditto.
20 posted on 07/04/2002 4:15:32 AM PDT by proudofthesouth
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