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A Pitiable Ploy to Promote the Kyoto Protocol: The Predicted Disintegration of the WAIS
CO2 Science Magazine ^ | July 03, 2002 | Drs. Sherwood B. and Kieth E. Idso

Posted on 07/04/2002 10:32:46 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou

The Kyoto Protocol is based on the premise that the ongoing rise in the air's CO2 content must be slowed as soon as possible, and ultimately stopped altogether, in order to avoid an increase in mean global air temperature of sufficient magnitude to inflict serious damage on the biosphere .  Consequently, those who believe in the conceptual foundation of the Protocol - as well as some who don't (but who promote its adoption for political or philosophical reasons) - would like to see its provisions implemented as soon as is practicable, in order to prevent the presumed deleterious consequences (or, alternatively, to foist their political philosophy upon the world).

Within this context, it is important to know what the proponents of the Protocol consider a dangerous climate impact worthy of immediate action.  Taking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as their guide, O'Neill and Oppenheimer (2002) say it is an impact that either imposes a risk upon unique and threatened ecosystems or engenders a risk of some large-scale discontinuity in earth's climate system.  On this basis, they claim there are three warming-related risks that are serious enough to implement the Kyoto Protocol with all due haste.  These risks are the potentials for (1) the infliction of extreme damage to earth's coral reefs, (2) the disintegration of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, and (3) the virtual shutdown of the marine thermohaline circulation.

With respect to the second of these risks - we dealt with the first one in our Editorial of 26 June 2002 - O'Neill and Oppenheimer (hereafter, O & O) claim that limited evidence from proxy data suggests the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS) "may have disintegrated in the past during periods only modestly warmer (~2°C global mean) than today."  Thus, they say that setting "a limit of 2°C above the 1990 global average temperature" - above which the mean temperature of the globe should not be allowed to rise - "is justified to protect [the] WAIS."

If the truth be told, however, a 2°C warming of the globe would likely have little impact on the stability of the WAIS.  How do we know?  By the icy beast's past performance.

Based on a 420,000-year temperature record derived from the Vostok ice core, we know, first of all, that the mean temperature of all four of the prior interglacials was at least 2°C greater than the mean temperature of the current interglacial; yet, in the words of the scientists who developed the record (Petit et al., 1999), the evidence contained in the core "makes it unlikely that the West Antarctic ice sheet collapsed during the past 420,000 years."  This is pretty much the same conclusion that was subsequently drawn by Cofaigh et al. (2001), who on the basis of analyses of sediment cores taken from the continental rise west of the Antarctic Peninsula and the Weddell and Scotia Seas concluded that "the ice sheet over the Antarctic Peninsula did not undergo widespread catastrophic collapse along its western margin during the late Quaternary," and who say that their evidence "argues against pervasive, rapid ice-sheet collapse around the Weddell embayment over the last few glacial cycles."

Second, we know from the Vostok temperature record that the most recent interglacial was fully 3°C warmer than the interglacial in which we presently live, but that the WAIS still did not disintegrate.  Third, we know that throughout the long central portion of the current interglacial it was also much warmer than it was in 1990 [see our Editorial of 26 June 2002 for references], which is the year from which O & O's 2°C critical warming increment is measured; and this fact raises the 3°C temperature elevation of the last interglacial relative to the global temperature of 1990 to something on the order of 4 or 5°C, for which, again, there was still no WAIS disintegration.

Fourth, and in spite of the current interglacial's relative coolness, the Vostok ice core data indicate that it has been by far the longest stable warm period of the entire 420,000-year record, which suggests we are probably long overdue for the next ice age, and that we may not have the "5 to 50 centuries" that O & O say could be required to bring about the WAIS disintegration subsequent to the attainment of whatever temperature in excess of 4 or 5°C would be needed to initiate the process.

Other evidence of the inability of the significant warmth of the last interglacial to trigger the disintegration of the WAIS was provided in a roundabout way by the study of Cuffey and Marshall (2000), whose reevaluation of the Greenland ice sheet's contribution to the sea level rise of that period suggests that the Greenland ice sheet was much smaller at that time than had previously been thought.  In light of this finding, Hvidberg (2000) was prompted to conclude that the "high sea levels during the last interglacial should not be interpreted as evidence for extensive melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, and so challenges the hypothesis that the West Antarctic is particularly sensitive to climate change."

Additional evidence that the climatic behavior of Antarctica is not particularly sensitive to what is happening in the rest of the world is provided by the study of Comiso (2000), who assembled and analyzed Antarctic temperature data from 21 surface stations and infrared satellites that operated from 1979 to 1998.  In spite of the fact that much of the rest of the world may have warmed somewhat over this period, Comiso found that both Antarctic data sets depicted a slight cooling over the last 20 years.  This was also the conclusion of the more recent study of Doran et al. (2002), whose spatial analysis of Antarctic meteorological data demonstrated a net cooling between 1966 and 2000, which for the McMurdo Dry Valleys between 1986 and 2000 averaged 0.7°C per decade.

Still more support for this intriguing disconnect was provided by Watkins and Simmonds (2000).  Analyzing satellite data obtained from December 1987 through December 1996, they observed statistically significant increases in both sea ice area and extent; and combining their results with earlier results for the period 1978-1987, both parameters showed increases over the entire 1978-1996 period.  They also found that the 1990s exhibited increases in the length of the sea ice season.  Thus, it is not surprising that in another satellite study of Antarctic sea ice extent, Yuan and Martinson (2000) determined that the net trend in the mean Antarctic sea ice edge over the prior 18 years was an equatorward expansion of 0.011 degree of latitude per year.

In view of these several real-world observations, we feel there is no justification for O & O's claim that "a limit of 2°C above [the] 1990 global average temperature is justified to protect [the] WAIS."  There is no convincing evidence that within the past half-million years of periodically much higher temperatures it has ever disintegrated or even come close to doing so, or that within the past quarter-century of supposedly "unprecedented" global warming it has even gotten any warmer.  In fact, the ice-covered continent has done just the opposite; it has cooled.  Therefore, to claim that the highly improbable collapse of the WAIS is one of the three most compelling reasons to implement the Kyoto Protocol is, well, music to our ears, as it shows just how desperate the folks in favor of CO2 emissions regulation have become.

Dr. Sherwood B. Idso
President
Dr. Keith E. Idso
Vice President

Reference
Cofaigh, C.O., Dowdeswell, J.A. and Pudsey, C.J.  2001.  Late Quaternary iceberg rafting along the Antarctic Peninsula continental rise in the Weddell and Scotia Seas.  Quaternary Research 56: 308-321.

Comiso, J.C.  2000.  Variability and trends in Antarctic surface temperatures from in situ and satellite infrared measurements.  Journal of Climate 13: 1674-1696.

Cuffey, K.M. and Marshall, S.J.  2000.  Substantial contribution to sea-level rise during the last interglacial from the Greenland ice sheet.  Nature 404: 591-594.

Doran, P.T., Priscu, J.C., Lyons, W.B., Walsh, J.E., Fountain, A.G., McKnight, D.M., Moorhead, D.L., Virginia, R.A., Wall, D.H., Clow, G.D., Fritsen, C.H., McKay, C.P. and Parsons, A.N.  2002.  Antarctic climate cooling and terrestrial ecosystem response.  Nature 415: 517-520.

Hvidberg, C.S.  2000.  When Greenland ice melts.  Nature 404: 551-552.

O'Neill, B.C. and Oppenheimer, M.  2002.  Dangerous climate impacts and the Kyoto Protocol.  Science 296: 1971-1972.

Petit, J.R., Jouzel, J., Raynaud, D., Barkov, N.I., Barnola, J.-M., Basile, I., Bender, M., Chappellaz, J., Davis, M., Delaygue, G., Delmotte, M., Kotlyakov, V.M., Legrand, M., Lipenkov, V.Y., Lorius, C., Pepin, L., Ritz, C., Saltzman, E. and Stievenard, M.  1999.  Climate and atmospheric history of the past 420,000 years from the Vostok ice core, Antarctica.  Nature 399: 429-436.

Watkins, A.B. and Simmonds, I.  2000.  Current trends in Antarctic sea ice: The 1990s impact on a short climatology.  Journal of Climate 13: 4441-4451.

Yuan, X. and Martinson, D.G.  2000.  Antarctic sea ice extent variability and its global connectivity.  Journal of Climate 13: 1697-1717.


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More evidence the sky isn't falling.
1 posted on 07/04/2002 10:32:46 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Bump

2 posted on 07/04/2002 10:47:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: *Global Warming Hoax; madfly
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3 posted on 07/05/2002 12:32:28 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Maybe it would help if the President hadn't mocked the EPA report one day and then sent out Ari Fleischer the next day to tell the press that he beleived that human acitivity contributed to global warming. And to have Fleischer insist to the press that Bush has thought that way since June of 2001. Is it any wonder that people are confused by his wanting it both ways?
--Raoul
4 posted on 07/05/2002 12:46:28 AM PDT by RDangerfield
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To: RDangerfield
What Ari said was that there are uncertainties in the reports as to wheather man is a significant contributor to Global Warming or if it is mostly nature. That is what Bush said in June 2001 when he rejected Koyoto, and is why he was upset at the EPA report sent to the UN which said that man is a significant contributor to Global Warming. The person that sent the report can't be fired, but somewhere down the line watch for him to resign rather than take reassignment to Ice Station Zebra.

I know this has been pointed out to you before and your continued harping on it makes me wonder.

Is bartflop down again, or are you just trolling?

5 posted on 07/05/2002 1:30:11 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
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6 posted on 07/05/2002 2:28:40 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
I'm not really up on the WAIS, or its potential significance to oceanic or global health, but I have noticed this: the "fight global warming" crowd will seize on any potential change to the ecosphere and trumpet it as the coming of Doom, if it will help them promote their agenda.

Extinctions used to be the environmentalists' big gun. Hey, remember the extinction plague? Millions of species vanishing in the course of our lifetimes, with incalculable global devastation to follow? Of course, the tendency is to associate each vanished "species" with something you could visit at a zoo. The real story is different. Yes, species do vanish from the Earth at a rather rapid rate, but:

  1. there's no evidence that that's happened any faster since the Industrial Revolution;
  2. there's no evidence that species extinction has outpaced species creation;
  3. the overwhelming majority of those extinguished species are in the taxonomic band just above protozoa: "plants" and "animals" that consist of a few hundred cells. They have no ecological impact, coming or going.

But it's a change to the ecosphere! And because it's a change, we should oppose it. Or so the eco-logic goes.

Hm. Hysterical opposition to change, without regard for its impact on human liberty or anything else. Just who are the "conservatives" here?

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
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7 posted on 07/05/2002 3:53:10 AM PDT by fporretto
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To: Free the USA; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; .30Carbine; 4Freedom; ...
Global Warming Hoax
8 posted on 07/05/2002 5:37:51 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!
9 posted on 07/05/2002 5:50:13 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: madfly
Thanks and Bump.
10 posted on 07/05/2002 6:35:22 AM PDT by brityank
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To: backhoe; Stand Watch Listen; RightWhale; Free the USA; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Ranger; callisto; ...
Let's ping some others also!

I just posted this:

California: Pavley gets national attention after emissions bill approved (Clinton approves)

California to be trendsetter to attack Bush over Global Warming!

11 posted on 07/05/2002 6:41:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: BOBTHENAILER; floriduh voter; DakotaGator
Enviro-whack alert!
12 posted on 07/05/2002 6:56:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
There really is global warming. Forty years ago I could work in the hay fields (with an occasional dip in the creek to cool off) all day and feel good. Now with the "global warming" it takes two beers (to cool off) when I use my riding lawnmower to cut the grass.

That's as much proof as the algore crowd has. What can I say?

13 posted on 07/05/2002 7:14:24 AM PDT by zip
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To: EternalVigilance
Don't forget that during Clintoon's admin, one of the biggest supporters of Kyoto was ENRON.

They could sell more natural gas under Kyoto clean air proposals.

14 posted on 07/05/2002 8:37:46 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: madfly
Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, enviro-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

15 posted on 07/05/2002 8:48:27 AM PDT by blackie
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To: madfly
bump
16 posted on 07/05/2002 8:56:25 AM PDT by mafree
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
One thing is certain and that is politicians will betray us just as soon as they can find the correct semantics to cloud the issue, i,e,; "for the children", etc.. It doesn't matter what label the pol wears.
17 posted on 07/05/2002 9:14:06 AM PDT by poet
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To: zip
Ok, now I understand 8>)
18 posted on 07/05/2002 9:16:22 AM PDT by poet
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To: madfly
bttt
19 posted on 07/05/2002 10:00:54 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: poet
Glad to help out. You know there are always those that want proof so THERE IT WAS.LOL
20 posted on 07/05/2002 10:04:51 AM PDT by zip
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