INS Denied Residency to LAX Gunman

AP | 7/06/02 | ANDREW BRIDGE

[Dr. Eckleburg]

diversity lottery

Also interesting to note that possible terrorists/murderers/Islamic assassins can participate in the "lottery."

Sounds like an awfully big game of chance, IMO.

[aristeides]

Department of States' Diversity Lottery Program

Can't say I ever heard of that program. I wonder when it got started.

[aristeides]

Any further word on whether Hadayet was on an FBI watch list?

[Squantos]

Hadayet was granted permanent residency through his wife, Hala, who received an immigration visa through the Department of States' Diversity Lottery Program

Well if this doesn't pump sunshine up yer skirt nothing will.........

Stay Safe ,Vote, Cache & Carry !

[Sabertooth]

The Immigration and Naturalization Service rejected Hesham Mohamed Hadayet's request to remain in the country in February 1996, INS spokesman Ron Rogers said in Saturday's Orange County Register. It wasn't clear why.

The agency began deportation procedures, but in 1997, Hadayet was granted permanent residency through his wife, Hala, who received an immigration visa through the Department of States' Diversity Lottery Program, the Register and Los Angeles Times reported.

An Egyptian male, once rejected by the INS for permanent residency... and he's not on the FBI's watch list?

That's not the excuse, that's the problem.

Israeli officials said they would consider the attack an act of terror unless it was proven otherwise. But on Friday, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said, "There is no evidence, no indication at this time that this is terrorists."

Having learned to parse in the Clinton years, I find Ari Fleischer's use of "terrorists" in the plural to be of possible significance. By the definition of terrorism being pushed by the FBI, terrorism requires a group, therefore, there is no such thing as a "terrorist" in the singular.

A bumper sticker on Hadayet's front door that read "Read the Koran" was removed by authorities.

Which authorities? Why? Has it been collected as evidence?

[cinFLA]

Neighbors said Hadayet was quiet, but once became angry when an upstairs neighbor hung large American and Marine Corps flags from a balcony above his front door after the Sept. 11 attacks.

And the article says the guy was happy in America and close to being a US citizen! Apparently NOT!

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Can't say I ever heard of that program. I wonder when it got started.

Diversity Lottery Program

[Bernard]

This will sound like a joke, but if Blockbuster was in charge of finding potential terrorists and other illegal aliens who are breaking our laws, there would be fewer illegal aliens in this country.

The INS, much like the FBI, needs to be disbanded and replaced. The rot is too deep for any cosmetic changes.

[FreedomPoster]

What timing. The family runs for safety back to the homeland, Egypt, a week before the guy carries out a terrorist shooting.

The head-in-the-sand, we-parrot-the-government-line crowd is all over one of the other threads on this, declaring it was just an "isolated incident" by a "lone nutcase", and not terrorism. Forget the timing, forget the guy's background.

If the government had said nothing at all, one way or the other, before a thorough investigation, that would be one thing. Now, I believe it is almost certainly terrorism, simply because of the government's rush to declare it not so.

[Jeff Head]

IMHO, the root word for diverse is divide. Apparently there is now a program in the state department that glorifies this and is pumping people in here to celebrate it ... this example a case in point.

We are not strong becaues we are diverse ... we are strong because we are united.

We are a gathering of diverse people it is true ... but therein is not our strength. We re strong because those people are united under certain republican principles based on liberty and faith in God. That's how it started and that's the foundation that the entire system was built upon ... uniting under those principles is what makes us strong.

As long as we maintain that, we are like a cord of many ropes bound together and united ... impossible to break. If we lose that, we are like a bunch of seperate threads that can be easily broken individually.

We have enemies, foreign and domestic who are committed to breaking that union, separating us, dividing us ... and destroying us. This guy was one component of the foeign variety as was 9-11. I am afraid we have let a lot more ... they are inside the perimeter and they are starting to place and throw their satchel charges.

[FITZ]

Any further word on whether Hadayet was on an FBI watch list?

He probably wasn't, the FBI has been too busy watching Americans to watch foreign enemies infiltrating the US.

[bootyist-monk]

From the diversity link...

Jack Martin, special projects director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), said he doubts that terrorists use the diversity immigrant visa program because obtaining permanent residence visas is such a long process that includes a more thorough background check than that involved in getting a temporary visa (for business, tourism, or study).

Hmmm....

[4Freedom]

Isn't it wonderful that the INS kept this happy little family together? They must be so proud.

[dagoofyfoot]

"I can't see him carrying a knife or a gun into the airport"
Just goes to show you that they are all ticking time bombs..SLEEPERS!

[angkor]

Below are the dates compiled from this and other reports:

1988 Son Omar born (other reports 1990)
1992 Comes to USA
1994 Son Adam born (other reports 1996)
Feb-96 Permanent residency denied
May-96 Police called on husband/wife dispute
Jan-97 Taxi driver Orange County
1997 Permanent residency granted
2003 Father's claimed naturalization date

There's quite a bit of conflicting information out there, but interesting questions and observations include:

Both sons appear to have been born in Egypt.

Given the 6-12 month application cycle for residency, it appears he applied in 1995. What was his visa status from 1992 through 1995?

When did his wife (so very fortuitously) win the visa "lottery"? Between 2/96 and 1997? Or between his original application of 1995, and 1997?

How was his son Adam conceived and then born in either 1993/4 or perhaps 1995/6? Did he travel to Egypt (again, on what visa), or was his wife here by then?

Are the wife and kids all Egyptian citizens?

INS - as usual - has several questions to answer here.

[Jeff Head]

Of course they don't use the program Mr. Martin ... that would put a black mark and a stain on the program and its public funding ... so of COURSE the terrorists don't use the program.

They don't have the patience for it anyway ... and why should they when they can just get their wives to do it for them?

[MissAmericanPie]

OH, it's a fun program, 50,000 lottery winners a year for a green card. So far I have not heard a peep from any representative but Tancredo about this immigration mess.

[Greeklawyer]

"feelings"??!!!!!!

how about ACTIONS......

[VOA]

The cowardly news people said absolutly nothing about these comments by the employee.

It could be that some of the news people let this guy have his First Amendment moment,
knowing about 90-95% of the viewers would want to throw a brick at their TVs.

[Grampa Dave]

Diversity is also the code word for the dark siders for Perversity.

So they when say Diversity is good, they really mean that Preversity is good!

Diversity = Preversity