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LA airport gunman on FBI watchlist
SMH.com.au ^ | July 5, 2002

Posted on 07/06/2002 8:39:42 AM PDT by Jethro Tull

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To: kcvl
translation please!
21 posted on 07/06/2002 9:18:55 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Jethro Tull
Last update - 19:06 06/07/2002

Egypt says surprised by furor over Los Angeles shooting

By Zohar Blumenkrantz and Benny Landau, Ha'aretz Correspondents, Ha'aretz Service and agencies

CAIRO - Egypt's foreign minister expressed surprise on Saturday at the furore over a deadly attack by an Egyptian national at Los Angeles airport, saying the motives were still unclear and similar incidents occurred frequently.

Egypt's official Middle East News Agency (MENA) said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher told reporters in Cairo that such incidents occur repeatedly in the United States and other countries and said he was surprised by the exaggeration of this event in particular.

"Until now, nobody knows the motives behind this incident. We have to await the outcome of the current investigations so that we can review them," MENA quoted Maher as saying.

Egypt's semi-official al-Ahram daily said on Saturday that local security authorities had no information on record about Hadayet and there was no evidence he had any links to extremist activities when he lived in Egypt.

Ex-employee of El Al gunman tells NY Times: 'He had hate for Israel' In an interview to The New York Times published Saturday, a former employee of the Egyptian who shot dead two people and wounded seven others at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport on Thursday that he "often heard his boss express virulent anti-Israeli sentiments."

Hesham Mohammed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian, "had hate for Israel, for sure," Syrian-born Abdul Zahab told The New York Times. "He told me that the Israelis tried to destroy the Egyptian nation and the Egyptian population by sending prostitutes with AIDS to Egypt. He said that the two biggest drug dealers in New York are Israeli."

Hadayet was shot dead by an El Al security official soon after opening fire on the crowd of people queuing at the ticket counter.

El Al flight LY 106 from Los Angeles to Tel Aviv arrived at Ben-Gurion International Airport in the early hours of Saturday morning, after its delay following Thursday night's shooting attack.

The plane was carrying 119 passengers. Some 40 passengers elected to remain in the United States until after Shabbat, Israel Radio reported.

The flight was due to fly to Tel Aviv with a stop over in Toronto. It was scheduled to land in Israel at 4 P.M. Friday.

The FBI said Friday it had no indication suggesting that the attack was an act of terrorism, but said the gunman's motive was still unclear. (Click here for a look inside El Al security.)

"He was not on any FBI or FAA watch list," FBI agent Richard Garcia told a news conference. He added that authorities still had several days work to do "to determine whether this person acted in an act of terrorism."

"We have not determined whether he had any anti-Israeli views," Garcia said, adding that it was still "very difficult to determine the exact motive" for the shooting.

The FBI said earlier that Hadayet apparently was not connected to any terror organizations, and probably acted on his own.

Hadayet, who also goes by the last name Ali, was a legal resident who worked as a limousine driver, FBI spokesman Matt McLaughlin said. The motive remained uncertain and there was no evidence anyone else was involved, McLaughlin said.

The FBI spokesman suggested that the attack might fall into the category of a hate crime and said the man was heavily armed.

The White House also said Friday that there was no indication suggesting that the attack was the work of terrorists.

"There is no evidence, no indication at this time that this is terrorists," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said Friday. He added that President George W. Bush extended his condolences to the victims.

The two people killed at the attack at El Al's ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport were identified as Ya'akov Aminov, 47, and El Al stewardess Vicky Chen, both of them residents of Los Angeles, Israel Radio reported Friday morning. (Click here for more on the victims.)

FBI agents searched Hadayet's apartment Friday in the southern California city of Irvine after finding his car in a parking lot at the airport hours after the shooting. Neighbors told police the man's wife and two children were in Egypt.

Hadayat lived in the United States since 1992. He was not a U.S. citizen, but had a green card enabling him to work in the country.

FBI officials also said that Hadayat did not speak during the attack, contradicting earlier eye-witness reports that he shouted "He took my job" during the shooting.

Egyptian police question gunman's father and wife Egyptian police questioned Hadayet's father and wife, security guards at the father's apartment building said Friday.

The police police arrived at the apartment of Hadayet's father in downtown Cairo on Friday morning, the building's security guards said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The husband of Hesham Hadayet's aunt, Hassan Mostafa Mahfouz, said Hadayet's wife and sister were taken away for questioning by Egyptian intelligence.

He said the family was waiting for confirmation from the American Embassy about Hesham's involvement. "We want to be sure if he is behind the attack."

Mahfouz said that July 4 was Hadayet's birthday and that Hadayet had called his father on Thursday as he knew his father would want to wish him happy birthday.

Israel: L.A. shooting was terror attack Transportation Minister Ephraim Sneh reiterated Friday that the shooting was an apparent act of terror, saying that the it was a "logical assumption" that the incident was a terrorist attack, in an interview to CNN.

"We are going to assume that it's a terror attack until proven otherwise," the minister told Israel Radio on Friday.

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Yaffa Ben-Ari issued a statement saying: "The terrorists deliberately chose the Fourth of July to carry out their crime on the soil of the United States."
22 posted on 07/06/2002 9:21:21 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Digger
Indeed........ Current goobermint is analogious of a dog chasing it's own tail these days IMHO.....

Stay Safe !

23 posted on 07/06/2002 9:24:07 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: BrooklynGOP
Funny how your knee jerks before your tongue wags.
24 posted on 07/06/2002 9:47:19 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: 07055
How much do you want to bet that the authorities in Egypt give his family a substantial reward?

A long article about this guy in this morning's LA Times ... his wife had filed spousal abuse against him some time ago (he had filed one against her as well) ...

His visa ran out and he was to have been deported some years ago and then his wife won some sort of raffle run by the State Department that allowed her and her spouse to live in the U.S. indefinately!!!

The also had a photo of his apartment building with teo big monster flags hanging outside ... a U.S. flag and one for the Marines. :)

25 posted on 07/06/2002 9:47:35 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Illbay
Funny how your knee jerks before your tongue wags.

Hah. You should be talking. According to you 1 person is dead. Victims don't count, right?

26 posted on 07/06/2002 9:52:41 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
Turn your d&mned filter off, and go back and read what I said. If I don't hear from you again, it'll be because you realize what a fool you've made of your self.

You COULD come back and apologize, but don't worry. I won't expect you to be humble.

27 posted on 07/06/2002 9:57:36 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: browardchad
"Huh? At yesterday's afternoon press conference, FBI Agent Garcia said Hadayet was definitely NOT on any watchlist."

I heard the exact same press conference and I'm dumbstruck.

It appears the safest place in the world for a potential terrorist to be is on some FBI/CIA/government "watch list."

See Usama bin Laden for further evidence...

28 posted on 07/06/2002 10:18:39 AM PDT by Jethro Tull
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To: *JIHAD IN AMERICA
Index Bump
29 posted on 07/06/2002 10:20:14 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Illbay
To me this is like the statements you read from time to time such as: "The murder is being investigated on suspicion that it might have been a 'hate crime'". What bullsh*t! What difference if it was a "hate crime" or not?

What's the difference between 9/11 being an accidental plane crash or it being a terrorist act?

The person is dead, and hate is everywhere.

Oh. Sorry for hating people who try to kill us. Didn't mean to hurt their feelings.

30 posted on 07/06/2002 11:16:28 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: Illbay

Yea. What's the difference. Really.

31 posted on 07/06/2002 11:18:49 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: Jethro Tull
It’s funny that whenever this story comes up no one mentions the fact that one victim suffered a heart attack in the El Al terminal during the gun fight. Could this be because the fact that a man was so terrorized he had heart attack would end the argument over whether this was a terror attack.

Our Federal Government will always try to justify these acts in anyway, so long as it is not called terrorism. If these attacks are identified as terror it would show the United States is losing the war, not to mention offending the power hungry liberals.

On the same day a private plane crashed into a large group of people during a public 4th of July Celebration. Terrorism was dismissed right away, because supposedly mayday calls were transmitted from the aircraft. What better way to maker sure your insurance covers you during an act of terrorism then to fake an emergency and broadcast mayday requests while on your way to the target. Not only do you accomplish your goal of murdering innocent civilians, but your family gets a big payoff too.

32 posted on 07/06/2002 12:31:08 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: BunnySlippers
Did you by chance hear about an older son - age 18? One of the first stories about this guy mentioned an 18-year old teenage son (did not say if he lived at home), but later stories only mention two younger children. I wonder if the first story was wrong. I'm still looking for the source of that original story.
33 posted on 07/06/2002 1:18:23 PM PDT by Fracas
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To: BunnySlippers
His visa ran out and he was to have been deported some years ago and then his wife won some sort of raffle run by the State Department that allowed her and her spouse to live in the U.S. indefinately!!!

I believe the DNC held that raffle. Ten thousand dollars a ticket, but you were assured to be a winner.

34 posted on 07/06/2002 1:31:02 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Fracas
I heard that he was married previously and his former wife and son are living in Egpyt.
35 posted on 07/06/2002 1:42:46 PM PDT by hergus
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To: hergus
Thank you! This detail was driving me nuts; I hate 'loose ends', particularly when they deal with terror.
36 posted on 07/06/2002 1:53:49 PM PDT by Fracas
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To: kcvl
I copied that website to my harddrive. Some English coding showed up - with this URL ... http://www.pakranks.com/

And the pictures all have similar coding as:
SRC="LAX%20TERRORIST%20Hadayet _net_files/1423.gif"

Plus check this out (takes a long time to finally open, and then I couldn't get it to play again - it was landscape and a few words)
http://hadayet.net/video.htm

The words are added to the website as PICTURES, so a translator might not do any good.

37 posted on 07/06/2002 2:02:18 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Fearless Flyers
Where did that crash happen at? Any more info yet?
38 posted on 07/06/2002 2:03:04 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: kcvl
And this one seems to be some sort of guest book ...

http://hadayet.net/arkan.htm

I sure wish we had somebody who could tell us what all of those webpages say. (There's more URLs that I didn't list)

But whatever it's saying, it ~IS~ about the terrorist!!!! And that is what the MUSLIMS are calling him!
39 posted on 07/06/2002 2:07:20 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Sabertooth
FYI
40 posted on 07/06/2002 2:38:13 PM PDT by philman_36
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