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Posted on 07/06/2002 11:52:50 AM PDT by knighthawk

Topics:

- Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' in East Jerusalem and PA Territories
- "The Protocol's of the Elders of Zion" - alive and well in official PA ideology
- Protocols of The Elders of Zion Cited as the Strategy for Israel over the Last Century
- "All Lies... No Dachau, No Auschwitz" (29.11.2000)
- PA daily describes: The Fable of the Holocaust
- Few Examples from Likud Netherlands:
Ghazi Jabali's Anti-Semitic Statement
Resemblance Between Ben-Gurion and Hitler
The Holocaust As A Profitable Investment
The Attackers - Rabin's Assassins
- Palestinian Authority's Anti-Semitism (3.3.1999)
- "Zionism - [the] Apartheid of the Third Millenium"
- Muslim Struggle against World Jewry Expressed Openly on Palestinian Television
- Hatred of Jews - an integral part of Palestinian ideology

Palestinian Council member Rafaat Najar [Al-Hayat Al-Jadidah, 7.2.1996]

Palestinian officials are discussing whether and how to fulfill their commitment to amend the PLO Charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel. Newly-elected Palestinian Council member Rafaat Najar was quoted Saturday in the daily Palestinian newspaper Hayat al-Jadida as saying, "We demand a change in the Protocols of Zion in exchange for changing the charter."

Abdel Jawad Saleh, PA's Minister of Agriculture: [Al-Hayat Al-Jadidah, Nov. 6, 1997]

"The Jews seek to conquer the world...We must expose the Zionist-Colonialist plot and its goals, which destroy not only our people but the entire world."

Religious program broadcast on official PA's television asserted: [A November 3, 1998]

"the Jews are the seed of Satan and the devils.... The Jews do not believe in God... They have distorted the faith and exchanged the gift of God for heresy, rebellion and prostitution, and distorted the Torah...."

Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' in East Jerusalem and PA Territories

An Arabic translation of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is being distributed by Al-Shurouq, a Ramallah based book distributor, to East Jerusalem and territories controlled by the PA. According to Agence France Presse (Sept. 8), the book, previously banned by Israel, has been allowed by the PA and is 6th on the Palestinian best-seller list. Bisan publishers in Lebanon first published this edition in 1963 and again in 1995. The book costs about $10. The cover, presented below, shows a picture of Hitler, a swastika, and the title in both German and Arabic. The translator, Luis Al-Haj, wrote the following introduction:

"Adolf Hitler was not an ordinary man to be [forgotten] by the wheels of time... Adolf Hitler does not belong to the German people alone, he is one of the few great men who almost stopped the motion of history, altered its course, and changed the face of the world. Hence, he belongs to history."

"Hitler the soldier left behind not only a legend stained by tragedy itself; the tragedy of a state whose dreams were shattered, a regime whose pillars were torn down, and a political party that was crushed. Hitler was a man of ideology who bequeathed an ideological heritage whose decay is inconceivable. This ideological heritage includes politics, society, science, culture, and war as science and culture."

"The National Socialism that Hitler preached for and whose characteristics were presented in his book My Struggle, and whose principles he explained in his speeches before he took power, as well as during the 13 years he spent at the head of the German nation - this National Socialism did not die with the death of its herald. Rather, its seeds multiplied under each star."

".We cannot really understand the efforts of this man without examining the principles enclosed in his book My Struggle that the Nazis turned into the "Gospel of National Socialism."

"This translation of the book My Struggle has never been presented to Arab speakers. It is taken from the original text of the author, Adolf Hitler. The text was untouched by the censor. We made a point to deliver Hitler's opinions and theories on nationalism, regimes, and ethnicity without any changes because they are not yet outmoded and because we, in the Arab world, still proceed haphazardly in all three fields."

"The Protocol's of the Elders of Zion" - alive and well in official PA ideology

Introduction

The Palestinian Authority leadership often uses classical anti-Semitic sources to promote hatred of Israel among its population. Among other libels, Israel is said to be following the principles set down in the "Protocol's of the Elders of Zion". Today the official PA daily on its special weekly "Political -National Education" page again reverts to the infamous "Protocol's" to explain Israeli policy, even citing the precise quotes from protocols 2 and 12:

PA Daily:

"Morale and psychological manipulation has a significant place in the minds of Jews, and formed a very important source of strength in the "Hebrew State"...

Dis-information has been one of the bases of morale and psychological manipulation among the Israelis, and propaganda played an important role in the psychological prodding of world political leaders to support Zionism... The "Protocol's of the Elders of Zion" did not ignore the importance of using propaganda to promote the Zionist goals. In the second protocol is written: "Through the newspapers we will have the means to propel and to influence". In the twelfth protocol: "Our governments will hold the reins of most of the newspapers, and through this plan we will possess the primary power to turn to public opinion."

[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, official PA daily, Jan 25 2001]

Protocols of The Elders of Zion Cited as the Strategy for Zionist Activity over the Last Century

Introduction:

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion have emerged again in the Palestinian dialectic. Under the title "Protocols of the Elders of Zion Alive and Well in the Palestinian Authority", PMW reported, in January of this year, of the use of the protocols to paint a rationale for Israeli activity, specifically in the context of accusing Israel of attempts to control and manipulate the international press. Between holocaust denials and accusations of Nazi-type behavior, reference to the protocols crop up from time to time as if they really exist.

The Text:

"Remember the history, oh Arabs!"

Written by: Dr. Jasem Hamid.

"...I focused on important dates in the world of the Zionism and the Arabs:

1. In 1897 the first Zionist Congress was held in Basel...
2. In 1907 the actual immigration operation began...
3. In 1917 the woeful declaration of Balfour was made...
4. In 1947 the U.N. confirmed the Partition Plan by Resolution, and the Jews received a "legitimate" right, recognized by the world, to establish a national homeland for the Jews in a part of Palestine...
5. In 1977 the visit which shocked the Arab Nation occurred, the President of Egypt visited Israel. What is left after that?...

Every ten years, a vital aim is achieved. These are the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, of a century, from 1897 till 1997. They have planned and accomplished. Every ten years, another aim was achieved, proving their continuity and their power.

"And we, oh Arabs, couldn't understand during these years.

"Indeed, these are enormous achievements for them, and shameful for us. From the Diaspora a state was established. And what a state, in what location, on which land! O Muslims and Arabs, after 100 years they are fortified while you decline! At least we should fight the normalization [with Israel]."

[Al Quds, 10 JUL 2001]

"All Lies... No Dachau, No Auschwitz"

The exploitation of the Holocaust for Palestinian purposes is widespread in the Palestinian Authority. This exploitation includes Holocaust denial, equating Israel and Zionism to Nazism, claims that it was the Palestinians who suffered a holocaust, and others. This week is a educational broadcast on PA TV, a senior Palestinian historian in a talk with Arafat's Education Advisor said the Holocaust was a lie and Auschwitz a place for disinfecting Jews. Noteworthy also is Arafat's Advisor's denial of Israel's existence and the defining of Israel as a "cancer".

The Program:

"Pages From Our History" - November 29 Special Broadcast lamenting the UN partition of Mandatory Palestine and recognizing a Jewish State.

Participants: Dr. Jareer Al-Kidwah, advisor to "President" Arafat Dr. Issam Sissalem, history lecturer, Islamic University Gaza, portrayed frequently by the Palestinian press as an expert on Jews and Judaism.

The Discussion:

Al-Kidwah (asked regarding the UN partition): "I want to say that this is our Palestine, from Metulla [Israel's northernmost city] to Rafiah [Southern border] and to Aqaba [Israel's southernmost point], from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea; whether they want it or not."

Sissalem:
"...Lies surfaced about Jews being murdered here and there, and the Holocaust. And, of course, they are all lies and unfounded claims. No Chelmno, no Dachau, no Auschwitz! [They] were disinfection sites...They began to publicize in their propaganda that they were persecuted, murdered and exterminated... Committees acted here and there to establish this entity [Israel-Ed.], this foreign entity, implanted as a cancer in our country, where our fathers lived, where we live, and where our children after us will live. They always portrayed themselves as victims, and they made a Center for Heroism and Holocaust. Whose heroism? Whose Holocaust? Heroism is our nation's, the holocaust was against our people... We were the victims, but we shall not remain victims forever..."

[PATV 29-NOV-00]

PA daily describes: The Fable of the Holocaust

Introduction:

This latest Palestinian article defining the Holocaust as a "fable" appeared just days before Holocaust Memorial Day in the official daily, and includes the following:

- The Holocaust "history" is a "fable".
- The Zionists use the Holocaust fable for political and financial profit.
- The Jewish controlled media in the West perpetuate Holocaust myths.
- The 6 million figure is a lie as "the vaults in the camp could not have held even one percent of that number".
- The Jews brought the European anti-Semitism on themselves because Zionism needed a unifying factor against assimilation.
- The Palestinians are the true Holocaust victims.

"Marketing Ashes"

by Hiri Manzour, official Palestinian Authority daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, 13.4.01

"The issue of the holocaust rises again. It defies disappearing over its half-century because the Zionist propaganda has converted it into a means to produce political and economic benefit, besides exploiting it for the advancement of occupation and settlement...

"A recently published book by an American researcher, discusses the holocaust. Employing scientific and chemical evidence, it proves that the figure of six million Jews cremated in the Nazi Auschwitz camps is a lie for propaganda, as the most spacious of the vaults in the camp could not have held even one percent of that number.

"Why, then, does this problem loom up again now, both for holocaust commemoration and denial? And who reaps practical benefit from raising the issue?

"By and large, the Zionist movement cannot tolerate inactivity in any facet of the holocaust profession, especially since intelligentsia from around the globe have begun addressing the corresponding holocaust, that is the one the Hebrew State is bringing upon the Palestinians.

"And so, the Jewish holocaust defenders themselves are on constant alert, apprehensive of the shift of attention from the fable of the holocaust to the specific, historic holocaust.

"Those who uphold the opposing view are, typically, Western academics who, by their own testimony, seek to free themselves from Jewish domination of their memory and continued extortion... "Dr. Ramses Awd, an Arab writer, published an important book, not long ago, entitled "The Holocaust - Between Denial and Upholding", in which he reviews most of the theses that deal with the acts of massacre of the Jews in the Nazi period. But this book is not the final word. At the time of its publication the entire issue was raised anew, especially in the United States, the continent that was conquered, on all levels, nearly entirely, by Zionist media.

"It seems that there was a slump in the political sale of the Zionist product, and all the standard tools lost their ability to market it anew, while the world forgets the other side, that is the Palestinian holocaust, which still seeks museums of its own...

"The question now discussed in the halls of the universities and the renowned publishing houses in the world's capitols, is: has this hen reached its expiration date, which lays golden eggs for the Jews everywhere?

"And has history, now in the prime of its potency, clarified that the victims of the holocaust were themselves those who created it? Of course there are those who claim that the Jews actively participated in directing European feelings against them, according to the theory of resisting assimilation, assimilation being the essential enemy of Zionism...

"When Zionism cannot find an enemy to separate and repel the Jews, it invents such an enemy; and so was the case with the holocausts. Its need for it [holocaust] is imperative, even organic, required to fill its message with the drama needed to get it across. What is happening now is not just an activation of the holocaust and its revival from ashes, but its reproduction and international marketing.

"Unfortunately for the Zionist circles, the West itself has awoken from its half-century coma. And so the time has come for the European intellectual to declare himself historically mature and to liberate himself from the Jewish guardianship that entangled him in existential difficulties, and in a memory filled with guilt, on top of the collective guilty verdict applied evenly by Zionism upon the nations of Europe.

"Had it been the Arabs who had raised this thesis on the holocaust and its industry, and the accompanying additions and distortions, the topic would not have aroused the interest it has. The awakening came from the West, from the heart of the very house in which they say there were massacres.

"The Hebrew state is wary not only of scientific doubts being cast upon the holocaust, but also because they see this doubt as a portal to the denunciation of all the false Jewish claims...

"And possibly it is meaningful that the latest American book to refute and disprove the fable of the holocaust comes at the same time as the repeated declarations of Rabbi Ovadia...

"We are concerned that these dramatic cries regarding the holocaust, whether for or against, are intended to cover up the corresponding holocaust, that which Zionism is now producing with missile and tank, against the Arabs in Palestine.

The components of this new holocaust are nearly all finalized, and the world has started following it closely while re-examining the whole story that has lived more than fifty years, due to the media which carried it and was its missionary, and not due to its being 'historical'."

[The official Palestinian Authority daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, 13 APR. 01]

A Few Examples from Likud Netherlands

Ghazi Jabali's Anti-Semitic Statement

WHEN GENERAL GHAZI JABALI, COMMANDER OF THE PALESTINIAN POLICE, HEARD ABOUT THE ARREST WARRANT ISSUED AGAINST HIM BY ISRAEL, HE SAID: "THIS REMINDS ME OF GOEBBELS' METHODS".THE COMPARISON IS NOT SURPRISING IF ONE MONITORS THE OFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS OF THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY. FOR EXAMPLE: "EVERY YEAR, THE JEWS INFLATE THE NUMBER OF HOLOCAUST VICTIMS. HAVING PROFITED FROM TALK OF THEIR MURDER, THEY INCREASE THE NUMBERS FROM TIME TO TIME." ANOTHER QUOTE: "THE JEWS BELONG TO A COLONIALIST ENTITY, THEY ARE NOTHING BUT THIEVES." THIS IS NOT THE WAY PEACE IS BUILT.

On Monday, Commander of the Palestinian Police General Ghazi Jabali reacted with derision to the arrest warrant and extradition request issued against him by Israel the previous day. He said, "This reminds me of Goebbels (Hitler's propaganda minister) who said `tell lies and lies, and in the end they will believe you.' The same is true of the Jews. It is a disgrace that they are issuing an arrest warrant against me. Apparently they have learned Goebbels' methods."

The extradition request against General Jabali was issued by Justice Minister Tzahi Hanegbi in the wake of Jabali's involvement with the Palestinian police unit which, according to Israel, was sent by Jabali to kill Jews. At the end of last week, an arrest warrant was issued against Jabali by an Ashkelon court.

Against this background, Jabali's remarks should have provoked a storm. But anyone who monitors the statements and publications of the Palestinian Authority (PA) in recent weeks would not have been surprised. Charging Israel, Zionism and its leadership with Nazism, as well as denying the Holocaust, have become a daily routine, meshing with theories of nefarious Israeli plots. This educational battle is being waged by the official PA radio and television, as well as the newspapers financed by Yasser Arafat, which have recently adopted a strident, uninhibited and undisguised anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist line.

Resemblance Between Ben-Gurion and Hitler

Last Wednesday, for example, just one day before the suicide bomb attack at the pedestrian mall in Jerusalem, a wide-ranging article appeared in Al-Hayat Al-Jadeedah, the official mouthpiece of the Palestinian Authority. The article, authored by Palestinian writer Nabil Salam, presented a learned historical analysis which concluded: "Since its establishment, the racist Zionist entity has been implementing various forms of terrorism on a daily basis which are a repetition of the Nazi terror. This proves the shared roots of Nazi and Zionist thought. This also explains the cooperation between the Jews and the Nazis during World War II, through which was revealed the forged claims of the Zionists regarding alleged acts of slaughter perpetrated against the Jews during the same period."

Prior to these observations, the writer assesses the historical development of Judaism and Zionism, asserting they have sought to rule over great financial wealth, and have "influenced the formulation of racist-terrorist theories such as the Nazi theory." Citing quotations from the Talmud through David Ben-Gurion, the author enlightens his readers with the following conclusion: "There is no difference between Hitler and Ben-Gurion, and if there was a difference at all, it was one of quantity and not one of substance. Anyone who investigates the crimes of the Zionists. discovers explicitly the complementary traits between Zionism, which is a racist terrorist movement, and the Nazi movement."

The Holocaust As A Profitable Investment

That which was said in abridged form in Nabil Salam's text was said explicitly and more extensively in an interview with Palestinian writer Ahsan al-Agha during a "cultural program" broadcast two weeks ago on Palestinian television. Al-Agha's interviewer outlined the factual basis for the conversation: "It is well-known that every year the Jews exaggerate what the Nazis did to them. They claim there were 6 million killed, but precise scientific research establishes that there were no more than 400,000."

The guest, Mr. al-Agha, who is a teacher in Gaza, replied: "I think we are talking about an investment. They (the Jews) have profited materially, spiritually, politically and economically from the talk about the Nazi killings. This investment is favorable to them and they view it as a profitable activity so they inflate the number of victims all the time. In another ten years, I do not know what number they will reach, Last year, for the first time, a statistic appeared according to which 1 « million children were killed by the Nazis. This number was not previously known. If this number was indeed correct, then someone would certainly have remembered it. In my opinion, it is an investment, and as you know, when it comes to economics and investments, the Jews have been very experienced ever since the days of the Merchant of Venice."

The head of the Palestinian Broadcasting Authority is Nabil Amar, a former PLO ambassador in Moscow. Amar serves as an adviser to Yasser Arafat and is a member of the Higher Committee in the talks with Israel. He is also the publisher and chief editor of the newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadeeda, whose employees receive their salaries directly from the PA budget. It is therefore not surprising that in tandem with the official radio and television, Al-Hayat Al-Jadeeda conveys the line dictated from above. And the line is unmistakable.

For example: three days before the suicide bombing on the Jerusalem pedestrian mall, the newspaper published two instructive articles. The first was an interview with an "Islamic author" by the name of Safi Naz Kassam who offered a number of diagnoses regarding Judaism and Zionism: "There is no people or land named Israel," she said. "Israel is our patriarch Yaaqoub, peace be upon him, and the children of Israel are the sons of Yaaqoub. We are the children of Israel.. These people are the children of the Zionist entity, they are the children of the colonialist entity, they are nothing more than thieves. They came and took land which does not belong to them. Therefore, the normalization of relations with them is impossible.. even if Palestine remains occupied for hundreds of years."

And with regard to Zionism, the author states: "These Zionists are not fit to establish a nation or to have their own language or even their own religion. They are nothing more than a hodgepodge.

To complete the reader's education, the same issue of Al-Hayat Al-Jadeeda surveys "research" carried out by Ahmed al-Awadeh under the headline: "The History of the Conflict Between Muslims and Jews." The research claims that the Jews live by the Talmud and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The conflict between Muslims and Jews is an eternal conflict, similar to the conflict between mankind - the Muslims, and Satan - the Jews, and how unfortunate the Palestinians are that they have to serve as the Muslims' avant garde in the eternal battle of the Muslims and all the nations against the "nation of Jews."

The Attackers - Rabin's Assassins

These anti-Semitic publications, accompanied by breathtaking "factual diagnoses" regarding the character and soul of Jews and Zionists, appear daily in the Palestinian media. They are intended to provide broad popular education to the readers, which serves as the infrastructure for the charges against Israel and its leaders floated by the PA.

In the wake of the most recent suicide bombing in Jerusalem, the allegations became more pointed and turned into an explicit theory regarding a wide-ranging Zionist plot. Last Friday, the day after the bombing, the official PA news agency published the Palestinian leadership's decisions. It was a gripping document in which a number of instructive items were raised. "All the facts we have, which were supplied by the Israelis," says the statement, "show that behind these operations stand foreign elements who were aided and assisted by extremist Israeli elements, those who also murdered Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin."

But that is not all. The Israeli government, according to the official Palestinian statement, is aware of this and is attempting to hide the details from the public, as well as the collaboration which the killers received from within the Israeli establishment.

And so the circle is closed and the modus operandi of the government of the Zionist-Jewish entity is revealed, one which is not at all surprising in light of the basic characteristics of Zionism, as they are known to the Palestinians from previous official publications of the Palestinian Authority.

Notes
1 AlQuds Al-Arabi (London), April 11, 2000.
2 Al-Risala (PA), April 13, 2000.
3 Al-Risala, April 13, 2000.
4 Al-Istiqlal (PA), April 20, 2000.
5 Al-Risala, April 13, 2000.
6 Al-Istiqlal, April 20, 2000.
7 Al-Istiqlal, April 20, 2000.
8 Al-Risala, April 13, 2000.

Muslim Struggle against World Jewry Expressed Openly on Palestinian Television (13.2.02)

The following is an excerpt from the statements of Dr. Ahmed Abu-Halabiyeh, dean of higher education at the Islamic University in Gaza, on a Palestinian talk show this week:

"It is not coincidental that [in the Koran] Allah told the story of [Muhammed's] ascent heavenward while talking of the acts of the Israelites.

It is as though Allah was preparing the Islamic nation for the fact that there will be Jews in this land, and as though he was giving Muslims the message: `O' Muslims, prepare yourselves for the struggle with world Jewry! So that you will be on the winning side!'

And as though Allah's wisdom is evidence that the winning side in the struggle with the Jews are the Muslims." (Palestinian Media Watch)

Hatred of Jews - an integral part of Palestinian ideology

By Itamar Marcus and Ruthie Blum, Palestinian Media Watch

Introduction:

The following two items, the first from a televised religious sermon and the second from a Palestinian daily, are examples of the anti-Semitism common in Palestinian broadcasts and texts.

Moslem Sermon

"The Jews tried to kill Muhammad many times, with poison and with magic, and by throwing stones at him, and by all types of assassinations. He warned us about the Jews, and about the cunning of the Jews...He told us about the character of the Jew, in the book of Allah and in the Traditions of the Prophet, so that we would beware of them at every moment. And we know how to deal with the Jews.

...Say to those who believe not!the Jews!say to those who believe not, act according to your power, for we too are acting! And wait! For we too, shall wait.' Wait for your graves! Wait for the final battle! ...

.O Jews!.We will act to restore our rights! .You are usurpers! Your arrogance will end one of these days!.

. `[The Jew's] aim everywhere is to spread mischief through the earth and destroy crops and cattle. Allah does not love such mischief.'

[The Jews] destroyed everything: the crops, the seeds, and the birds, to the point that the environment itself is oppressed by the Jew!.

Allah, deal harshly with the Jews and those who aid them.
Allah, destroy them through their own stratagems!.
Allah, render us victorious over the Jews and those who support them!."

[PA TV, Sermon televised from protest tent in Gaza, Feb. 8, 2002]

Cartoon

This cartoon depicts the stereotypical Jew controlling world media.
The text above the Jew: "The Al Aksa Intifada."
The text over the TV screens, the "eyes" of the Western world: "Western Media."



TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; israel; palestinian

1 posted on 07/06/2002 11:52:51 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: dennisw; TopQuark; Alouette; OKCSubmariner; veronica; weikel; EU=4th Reich; BrooklynGOP; ...
Middle East list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 07/06/2002 11:53:23 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Whatever one may think of National Socialism, the fact is that a small, bankrupt nation took on the world and came quite close to winning. Allied victory was not a forgone conclusion by any means.

If the moslems ever get their act together and develop a strong and unified mindset - along with the fanatical devotion to their cause - we are going to have some tough sledding. And we had better get ready for it. National Socialism combined with islam is a more dangerous combination than the West can imagine - because it is the antithesis of everything the West believes.

3 posted on 07/06/2002 2:37:27 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: knighthawk
More shi'ite from sand nazis. They are like excrement. Their only benefit would be derived from their removal.
4 posted on 07/06/2002 3:16:03 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
Sand nazis! Good one, LOL!
5 posted on 07/06/2002 3:52:33 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
We made a point to deliver Hitler's opinions and theories on nationalism, regimes, and ethnicity without any changes because they are not yet outmoded and because we, in the Arab world, still proceed haphazardly in all three fields.

Hitler's opinions were outmoded the day he wrote them.

6 posted on 07/06/2002 3:56:39 PM PDT by facedown
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To: knighthawk
Not just the Pallies who are fighting the Jews of Israel......ALL ARABS are anti Semitic. The rich creeps in Saudi and Kuwait are anti Semitic. And what do the Jews do to them?

NOTHING!

It's all about Jihad and always has been. Even when Arafat was a communist it was all about Jihad!

7 posted on 07/06/2002 4:55:45 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
On a Dutch forum I was battling a muslim (he told me he did 7 years of koran school). He told that Jews were the enemy of islam, because the Jews wanted to corrupt islam and other weird things.

He was really the standard apologist. He said islam/the koran did not discriminate (refering to religion), but the Jews were the enemy! I asked him if he didn't think he was contradicting himself there, but he never answered one of my questions, just eveding all issues.

8 posted on 07/06/2002 7:22:17 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
I asked him if he didn't think he was contradicting himself there, but he never answered one of my questions, just eveding all issues.
_________________________

Typical.
9 posted on 07/06/2002 7:28:35 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
My argument sparked off a wave of anti-islam at the LPF-forum. They didn't thought islam was that bad as I said it, and because of the lack of arguments from the apologist to prove me wrong, they went to the al-islaam forum, where they also didn't get answers from the muslims. What they did found was a whole bunch of islamic extremism. The muslims there wanted to blow up a mosque for homosexual muslims and stuff like that!
10 posted on 07/07/2002 7:03:24 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Good work by you at the LPF forum. Let the light shine in on Islam and any other matter.
11 posted on 07/07/2002 7:46:03 AM PDT by dennisw
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