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Lincoln on the Fourth of July, 1861 [Answer to Lincoln Bashers]
Polyconomics ^ | July 3, 2002 | Jude Wanniski

Posted on 07/06/2002 1:30:53 PM PDT by B.Bumbleberry

Memo To: Thomas DiLorenzo, author, The Real Lincoln
From: Jude Wanniski
Re: Defending Abraham Lincoln II

First of all, professor, when I wrote a memo defending Lincoln last week I left the impression to you and to others that I criticized your Lincoln book without having read it. What I tried to say in my memo directed at Prof. Clyde Wilson, who wrote a commentary on your book for Lew Rockwell's website, is that I did not think I had to read your book because I'd read so much about it at the Rockwell site. But when someone sent me a copy, I did at least get into it far enough -- 53 pages -- to see that in rejecting at the outset Lincoln's motive in preserving the union, you set forth an imagined hidden agenda on his part that could never have justified the death and destruction of the Civil War. I put the book aside with no plan to comment on it at all, until I read Prof. Wilson's commentary, with the Lincoln quote that "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them."

Where Professor Wilson thought he cornered Lincoln with the 1848 quote, I said it is entirely consistent with Lincoln's behavior regarding the Southern rebellion. The Confederates tried and did not succeed because while they were inclined, they did not have the power. In the few days after my defense appeared at my website and on the Townhall site, I got several dozen e-mails from fans of yours and critics of Lincoln who strenuously disagreed with my approach. A number argued that I was saying that "might makes right," an idea with which I basically agree.

All of history is testimony to that axiom, which is that the stronger defeat the weaker. It was Lincoln himself who said that "right makes might," in his 1860 Cooper Union speech, which makes the argument seem circular. But both the North and the South believed they were in the right on the issue of secession, yet it was the Union that had the might. At the outset, the Confederates never imagined there would be such a struggle, but they certainly did believe they would be victorious. It's easy now to say the North had more manpower and material, but that was known at the time. Most recently, Iraq with 20 million people defeated Iran with 60 million. Our Army War College concluded that Iraq simply had better generals, for one reason or another. The South clearly had better generals than the North, but it was Lincoln's superiority as a political leader that held together the will of the free states to provide the men and material through the awful carnage on both sides.

He could never have succeeded if he was as crass as to fight for the protective tariff favored by the north, a possibility you spend an entire chapter on. Nor could he have rallied the North to end slavery in the South, as only a small fraction of Northerners believed the "inferior" Negro was worth fighting and dying for. As an economist, not a historian, you suggest Lincoln could have asked Northern taxpayers to buy the freedom of the 3.5 million slaves, which is the idea that led me to dismiss your book as "trivial and sophomoric." In my memo last week, I mentioned the 1952 Benjamin Thomas biography of Lincoln, which I've listed on my website for years as one of the most important books I have ever read, but was not in your bibliography. Here is Thomas getting to Lincoln's core, in Chapter XIII, A War for Democracy:

Lincoln did not flinch from a decision for civil war; some things in life and history are worthy of death and suffering. From his boyhood he had sought the meaning of the story of America. He found it in the political philosophy of Thomas Jefferson as it extolled the rights of man.

Lincoln often let his mind dwell on Jefferson and those other earnest patriots who met at Independence Hall and brought new hope to all mankind with the vow that "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." How noble and far-seeing those men were, he thought, as they built a national structure on such foundations that if some man, some faction, or some interest in time to come should set up the doctrine that none but rich men or none but white men, or none but Anglo-Saxons, were entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, their posterity might find in this great human document a source of faith and courage to keep up the fight for truth, justice, and mercy among men! Lincoln believed that in this affirmation of democracy lay the great hope of the world. America must demonstrate that in these principles mankind would find the surest way to peace, prosperity and happiness.

One day when young John Hay brought some papers to Lincoln's office, the two men talked about the issues of the war. "For my part," the older man explained, "I consider the central idea pervading this struggle is the necessity that upon us of proving that popular government is not an absurdity. We must settle this question now, whether in a free government the minority have the right to break up the government whenever they choose. If we fail it will go far to prove the incapability of the people to govern themselves.

Lincoln never professed learning in world history. Yet, from the very beginning he sensed the world significance of the American crisis. From the time of the American Revolution, Europe had looked to America as the proving-ground of democracy. Inspired by the example of that Revolution, European peoples had also striven for self-government, but despotism and autocracy had been too well entrenched. The privileged classes of Europe, who looked upon democracy as little better than mob rule, sneered at American political theories as sure to fail.

"This is essentially a People's contest," Lincoln explained to Congress when it assembled on July 4, 1861. "On the side of the Union it is a struggle for maintaining in the world, that form, that substance of government, whose leading object is, to elevate the condition of men – to lift artificial weights from all shoulders – to clear the paths of laudable pursuit for all – to afford all, an unfettered start, and a fair chance, in the race of life.

Our popular government has often been called an experiment. Two points in it, our people have already settled – the successful establishing and the successful administering of it. One still remains – its successful maintenance against a formidable attempt to overthrow it. It is now for them to demonstrate to the world, that those who can fairly carry an election, can also suppress a rebellion – that ballots are the rightful, and peaceful, successors of bullets, and that when ballots have fairly, and constitutionality, decided, there can be no successful appeal, except to ballots themselves, at succeeding elections. Such will be a great lesson of peace: teaching men that what they cannot take by election, neither can they take it by a war– teaching all, the folly of being the beginners of war.

Lincoln's primary purpose throughout the war was to save the Union. But this was incidental to a far more important objective: for as he saw the issue in its broader aspects, upon the fate of the Union hung the fate of world democracy . He must not allow the Southern people to dissever the nation or to renounce the philosophy of human freedom and equality for the false concept of a master race.

Mindful of his own pedigree of toil, Lincoln explained to the Congress how free institutions had elevated the American people beyond any others in the world. So large an army as the government now had it at its command "was never before known, without a soldier in it, but who had taken his place there of his own free choice." And there was scarcely a regiment in that army from which a president, a cabinet, a congress, and possibly a supreme court capable of administering the government could not be chosen. Whoever chose to abandon such a form of government, warned Lincoln, had best think well of what might come in its place.


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I've advised several of the people who wrote in to me on your behalf that I do think you have performed a most useful service. History never stops testing its heroes and its villains, looking for new insights about the way the world works. I really cannot quarrel with any of the facts you present in The Real Lincoln, as you seem to have everything properly foot-noted. If it had not been for your efforts, I would not have been spurred to re-read the Benjamin Thomas biography, to recommend it to you, and to recommend it to our audience. You really have to give Honest Abe credit. He did prove for all time that it is possible for ordinary people to maintain a popular democracy. Those men who fell in battle under the Confederate flag are just as much a part of that proof as those who died for the Union, and for that I honor the memory of the Gray as well as the Blue. History meant for there to be a Great War, not a simple skirmish, or the issues it resolved might still be in doubt.


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1 posted on 07/06/2002 1:30:53 PM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: B.Bumbleberry
Rebellion?
2 posted on 07/06/2002 2:01:47 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: B.Bumbleberry
while they were inclined, they did not have the power.

So in other words all that matters is who has the biggest gun.

"We don't want to be in your country anymore. We'll just be going now."
"Then we're going to kick your ass because we can."

Hope it's hot, Abe.

3 posted on 07/06/2002 3:52:18 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Jonathon Spectre
First Inaugural Address:

In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in Heaven to destroy the government, while I shall have the most solemn one to "preserve, protect, and defend it."
I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field, and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearth-stone, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.

Letter to Horace Greeley:

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. ...I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.

4 posted on 07/06/2002 4:12:14 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Uh, Jon, please read the entire article. The idea was that we wouldn't have a country if every dissatisfed minority decided to secede. That was the principle Lincoln apparently saw before as being tested. Makes perfect sense to me.
5 posted on 07/06/2002 5:01:08 PM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: B.Bumbleberry
The idea was that we wouldn't have a country if every dissatisfed minority decided to secede.

Uh. We wouldn't have a country if Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and the boys didn't decide to secede. They said:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes ... but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government.
It was not a dissatisfied minority that decided to secede. It was an overwhelming majority of the residents of the south that wanted to secede. As for the north, it's not really clear that even a majority wanted to stop them at all, and less so that a majority wanted to stop them by conquering them. The only majority that existed for sure was at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Thin gruel, indeed.

ML/NJ (Honest Yankee)

6 posted on 07/06/2002 5:26:06 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Jonathon Spectre
My favorite quote from the Civil War:

" America has no north, no south, no east, no west. The sun rises over the hills and sets over the mountains, the compass just points up and down, and we can laugh now at the absurd notion of there being a north and a south. We are one and undivided."

Sam Watkins, 1st Tennessee

7 posted on 07/06/2002 5:38:46 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: ml/nj
But it was clear what Lincoln wanted,to uphold his oath and preserve the Union.

He did just that.

I believe in States rights,but they better win the war.

8 posted on 07/06/2002 5:43:52 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: B.Bumbleberry
I really cannot quarrel with any of the facts you present in The Real Lincoln, as you seem to have everything properly foot-noted.

Jude W. should try checking these pathetic footnotes.

Cheers,

Richard F.

9 posted on 07/06/2002 5:51:34 PM PDT by rdf
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To: mdittmar
I believe in States rights,but they better win the war.

I'm not sure why there had to be a war, but is this what you really believe? Your position is only morally correct if you have the most cannons? This would put you on the side of the Red Chinese against Tibet.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 07/06/2002 6:09:21 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
I'm not sure why there had to be a war...

Jude W. is somewhat silly on this matter, but are you serious?

Laws were set aside, Federal property taken, and finally, the flag fired upon.

Secession, as R.E. Lee wrote his son, "is nothing but rebellion."

There was a war because the fire-eaters wanted it, and started it, to vindicate their so-called "right to secession," and to overturn the result of a constitutional election.

That is why they called themselves, truly, "rebels."

Why is this so hard to see?

Cheers,

Richard F.

11 posted on 07/06/2002 6:31:09 PM PDT by rdf
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To: ml/nj
I don't know why either,I wish good men on both sides didn't have to die.

I'm glad we're still The United States of America.

Maybe President Lincoln thought about this:

Presidential Oath of Office:

"I, name, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and I will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

The Constitution of the United States of America:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Who knows.

I will disregard the last sentence in your post.

12 posted on 07/06/2002 6:35:54 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: ml/nj
It is true that we wouldn't have much of a country if we allowed every disgruntled group of states secede. It is also true that we wouldn't have a country if we didn't break away from the English kingdom! Good thing for America that it determined the South was worth fighting and dying over. Good thing for us that the British didn't!

After all, we didn't so much "win" the Revolutionary War as the English decided that the cost of defeating us wasn't worth it.

13 posted on 07/06/2002 6:42:15 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: B.Bumbleberry
bump
14 posted on 07/06/2002 6:44:56 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: SamAdams76
We did kick their English a$$ though;)
15 posted on 07/06/2002 7:08:58 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
Lincoln took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution; yet he threw the Constitution and the rule of law out the window and took powers delegated to the courts and to congress. He had no authority to rule that the South had no right to secede. Lincoln pulled off a coup and established the American Empire. So might makes right when it comes to "saving the Union"? HAH! That's like a man saving his marriage by beating his wife into submission. Well at least this guy didn't give us the old line that Lincoln invaded and subjugated to South in order to free the slaves. BTW, there were Union slave states, Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware and New Jersey. NJ had a few older "retired" slaves. Slavery was legal in the US until Dec, 1865 when the 13th Amendment was passed; and the US military was legally racially segregated until 1948. But all we hear about is the racist South. A lot of Southerners, and a lot of other people in the world, are fed up with self-righteous, meddling, know-it-all Yankees and their policies based on the principle that "might makes right"...........durn, now I gotta go take a blood pressure pill.
16 posted on 07/06/2002 7:31:56 PM PDT by Rebelo3
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To: Rebelo3
Slavery was legal in the US until Dec, 1865 when the 13th Amendment was passed; and the US military was legally racially segregated until 1948. But all we hear about is the racist South.

Wasn't about slavery,never was.

17 posted on 07/06/2002 7:37:46 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Rebelo3
durn, now I gotta go take a blood pressure pill.

Take two, and enjoy the rest of the Fourth of July weekend.

Cheers,

Richard F.

18 posted on 07/06/2002 7:46:10 PM PDT by rdf
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To: mdittmar
You are one strange cookie!
19 posted on 07/06/2002 7:49:47 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: agrandis
Thanks for your enlightening post.

Lived just a hop,skip and a jump from Georgia for a year.

Loved the history.

Have a great night.

20 posted on 07/06/2002 7:57:27 PM PDT by mdittmar
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