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To: RJCogburn
Falwell would have seen Henry having beer at breakfast (very common in the 18th century) and agitated to have him hanged.

I once saw a public forum in which Falwell participated. A man quoted an Old Testament verse in which God promised that his covenant with Israel would never be broken. Why then, the man asked, must Jews accept the "new covenant" of the New Testament? Falwell got a big laugh from the yokels by saying, "Sir, you'd know better than to ask that question at Liberty Baptist!"

Have paid Falwell very little attention since.

4 posted on 07/07/2002 8:46:34 AM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: SteamshipTime
Falwell personally is a teetotaler, but as a longtime [former] resident of Lynchburg I will tell you that this is not any tenet of the church, and if they got rid of every member that ever drank a beer they would be out of business.

As to the other question, whoever put that to Rev. Falwell deserved a more curt answer even than he got! That is a stupid and disruptive question, to which God alone knows the answer, and it is the oldest saw in the book, 2000 yrs old, to try to drive a wedge between Jews and Christians by asking the one if the other has a valid salvation or acceptance with God.

The Japanese are said to have a word called "muh" which means, "unask the question."

8 posted on 07/07/2002 9:38:32 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: SteamshipTime
I'm not sure I understand your point.
12 posted on 07/07/2002 11:23:51 AM PDT by Michael2001
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To: SteamshipTime
Fartwell is like $waggart, Je$$ie Jack$son, and Al $harpton. They have the ethics of Bill Clintoon.
13 posted on 07/07/2002 11:31:34 AM PDT by ofMagog
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To: SteamshipTime
I once saw a public forum in which Falwell participated. A man quoted an Old Testament verse in which God promised that his covenant with Israel would never be broken. Why then, the man asked, must Jews accept the "new covenant" of the New Testament? Falwell got a big laugh from the yokels by saying, "Sir, you'd know better than to ask that question at Liberty Baptist!"

Have paid Falwell very little attention since.

Falwell should have answered: God made several covenants with Israel, some of them required a human response (e.g., the Palestinian Covenant enunciated under Moses), and which the Israelites failed to keep.

Other covenants, however, e.g., the Abrahamic Covenant (first enunciated in Genesis 12:1-3, but later reaffirmed and enlarged upon in later passages in Genesis), as well as the New Covenant, first prophetically foretold in Jeremiah 31, were Divinely unilateral covenants that did not depend in any way on man's (i.e., Israel's) response. Those unilateral Covenants will not and cannot be broken.

The New Covenant is first (prophetically) enunciated in the Old Testament, when Jeremiah writes,

"31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD."

23 posted on 07/07/2002 5:12:49 PM PDT by BenR2
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To: SteamshipTime
Falwell would have seen Henry having beer at breakfast (very common in the 18th century) and agitated to have him hanged.

Your weak attempt at humor falls flat here.

Your statement imputes a point of view to Falwell that is absurd. Falwell knows that many Christians even today drink beer and wine. Even though he disapproves of that practice, he nowhere calls for anyone's hanging.

Perhaps you resent Falwell's exercising his Constitutionally recognized freedom to preach his conscience on the use of alcohol.

Can you not separate this particular doctrine (with which you may disagree) from the other things that Falwell says and stands for?

Or, are you to smallhearted to see that the man truly loves God and his country.

24 posted on 07/07/2002 5:19:45 PM PDT by BenR2
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