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Postmodernism Disrobed
Nature Magazine ^ | 9 July 1998 | Richard Dawkins

Posted on 07/07/2002 8:32:38 AM PDT by Tomalak

Suppose you are an intellectual impostor with nothing to say, but with strong ambitions to succeed in academic life, collect a coterie of reverent disciples and have students around the world anoint your pages with respectful yellow highlighter. What kind of literary style would you cultivate? Not a lucid one, surely, for clarity would expose your lack of content. The chances are that you would produce something like the following:

We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously.

This is a quotation from the psychoanalyst FŽlix Guattari, one of many fashionable French ‘intellectuals’ outed by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont in their splendid book Intellectual Impostures, which caused a sensation when published in French last year, and which is now released in a completely rewritten and revised English edition. Guattari goes on indefinitely in this vein and offers, in the opinion of Sokal and Bricmont, "the most brilliant mŽlange of scientific, pseudo-scientific and philosophical jargon that we have ever encountered." Guattari’s close collaborator, the late Gilles Deleuze had a similar talent for writing:-

In the first place, singularities-events correspond to heterogeneous series which are organized into a system which is neither stable nor unstable, but rather ‘metastable,’ endowed with a potential energy wherein the differences between series are distributed . . . In the second place, singularities possess a process of auto-unification, always mobile and displaced to the extent that a paradoxical element traverses the series and makes them resonate, enveloping the corresponding singular points in a single aleatory point and all the emissions, all dice throws, in a single cast.

It calls to mind Peter Medawar’s earlier characterisation of a certain type of French intellectual style (note, in passing the contrast offered by Medawar’s own elegant and clear prose):

Style has become an object of first importance, and what a style it is! For me it has a prancing, high-stepping quality, full of self-importance; elevated indeed, but in the balletic manner, and stopping from time to time in studied attitudes, as if awaiting an outburst of applause. It has had a deplorable influence on the quality of modern thought . . .

Returning to attack the same targets from another angle, Medawar says:

I could quote evidence of the beginnings of a whispering campaign against the virtues of clarity. A writer on structuralism in the Times Literary Supplement has suggested that thoughts which are confused and tortuous by reason of their profundity are most appropriately expressed in prose that is deliberately unclear. What a preposterously silly idea! I am reminded of an air-raid warden in wartime Oxford who, when bright moonlight seemed to be defeating the spirit of the blackout, exhorted us to wear dark glasses. He, however, was being funny on purpose.

This is from Medawar 1968 Lecture on "Science and Literature", reprinted in Pluto’s Republic (Oxford University Press, 1982). Since Medawar’s time, the whispering campaign has raised its voice.

Deleuze and Guattari have written and collaborated on books described by the celebrated Michel Foucault as "among the greatest of the great. . . Some day, perhaps, the century will be Deleuzian." Sokal and Bricmont, however, comment that "These texts contain a handful of intelligible sentences – sometimes banal, sometimes erroneous – and we have commented on some of them in the footnotes. For the rest, we leave it to the reader to judge."

But it’s tough on the reader. No doubt there exist thoughts so profound that most of us will not understand the language in which they are expressed. And no doubt there is also language designed to be unintelligible in order to conceal an absence of honest thought. But how are we to tell the difference? What if it really takes an expert eye to detect whether the emperor has clothes? In particular, how shall we know whether the modish French ‘philosophy’, whose disciples and exponents have all but taken over large sections of American academic life, is genuinely profound or the vacuous rhetoric of mountebanks and charlatans?

Sokal and Bricmont are professors of physics at, respectively New York University and the University of Louvain. They have limited their critique to those books that have ventured to invoke concepts from physics and mathematics. Here they know what they are talking about, and their verdict is unequivocal: on Lacan, for example, whose name is revered by many in humanities departments throughout American and British universities, no doubt partly because he simulates a profound understanding of mathematics:

. . . although Lacan uses quite a few key words from the mathematical theory of compactness, he mixes them up arbitrarily and without the slightest regard for their meaning. His ‘definition’ of compactness is not just false: it is gibberish.

They go on to quote the following remarkable piece of reasoning by Lacan:

Thus, by calculating that signification according to the algebraic method used here, namely:

S (signifier) = s (the statement),
s (signified)

With S = (-1), produces: s = sqrt(-1)

You don’t have to be a mathematician to see that this is ridiculous. It recalls the Aldous Huxley character who proved the existence of God by dividing zero into a number, thereby deriving the infinite. In a further piece of reasoning which is entirely typical of the genre, Lacan goes on to conclude that the erectile organ

. . . is equivalent to the sqrt(-1) of the signification produced above, of the jouissance that it restores by the coefficient of its statement to the function of lack of signifier (-1).

We do not need the mathematical expertise of Sokal and Bricmont to assure us that the author of this stuff is a fake. Perhaps he is genuine when he speaks of non-scientific subjects? But a philosopher who is caught equating the erectile organ to the square root of minus one has, for my money, blown his credentials when it comes to things that I don’t know anything about.

The feminist ‘philosopher’ Luce Irigaray is another who is given whole chapter treatment by Sokal and Bricmont. In a passage reminiscent of a notorious feminist description of Newton’s Principia (a ‘rape manual’) Irigaray argues that E=mc2 is a ‘sexed equation’. Why? Because ‘it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are vitally necessary to us’ (my emphasis of what I am rapidly coming to learn is an in-word). Just as typical of the school of thought under examination is Irigaray’s thesis on fluid mechanics. Fluids, you see, have been unfairly neglected. ‘Masculine physics’ privileges rigid, solid things. Her American expositor Katherine Hayles made the mistake of re-expressing Irigaray’s thoughts in (comparatively) clear language. For once, we get a reasonably unobstructed look at the emperor and, yes, he has no clothes:

The privileging of solid over fluid mechanics, and indeed the inability of science to deal with turbulent flow at all, she attributes to the association of fluidity with femininity. Whereas men have sex organs that protrude and become rigid, women have openings that leak menstrual blood and vaginal fluids. . . From this perspective it is no wonder that science has not been able to arrive at a successful model for turbulence. The problem of turbulent flow cannot be solved because the conceptions of fluids (and of women) have been formulated so as necessarily to leave unarticulated remainders.

You don’t have to be a physicist to smell out the daffy absurdity of this kind of argument (the tone of it has become all too familiar), but it helps to have Sokal and Bricmont on hand to tell us the real reason why turbulent flow is a hard problem (the Navier-Stokes equations are difficult to solve).

In similar manner, Sokal and Bricmont expose Bruno Latour’s confusion of relativity with relativism, Lyotard’s ‘postmodern science’, and the widespread and predictable misuses of Gšdel’s Theorem, quantum theory and chaos theory. The renowned Jean Baudrillard is only one of many to find chaos theory a useful tool for bamboozling readers. Once again, Sokal and Bricmont help us by analysing the tricks being played. The following sentence, "though constructed from scientific terminology, is meaningless from a scientific point of view":

Perhaps history itself has to be regarded as a chaotic formation, in which acceleration puts an end to linearity and the turbulence created by acceleration deflects history definitively from its end, just as such turbulence distances effects from their causes.

I won’t quote any more, for, as Sokal and Bricmont say, Baudrillard’s text "continues in a gradual crescendo of nonsense." They again call attention to "the high density of scientific and pseudo-scientific terminology – inserted in sentences that are, as far as we can make out, devoid of meaning." Their summing up of Baudrillard could stand for any of the authors criticised here, and lionised throughout America:

In summary, one finds in Baudrillard’s works a profusion of scientific terms, used with total disregard for their meaning and, above all, in a context where they are manifestly irrelevant. Whether or not one interprets them as metaphors, it is hard to see what role they could play, except to give an appearance of profundity to trite observations about sociology or history. Moreover, the scientific terminology is mixed up with a non-scientific vocabulary that is employed with equal sloppiness. When all is said and done, one wonders what would be left of Baudrillard’s thought if the verbal veneer covering it were stripped away.

But don’t the postmodernists claim only to be ‘playing games’? Isn’t it the whole point of their philosophy that anything goes, there is no absolute truth, anything written has the same status as anything else, no point of view is privileged? Given their own standards of relative truth, isn’t it rather unfair to take them to task for fooling around with word-games, and playing little jokes on readers? Perhaps, but one is then left wondering why their writings are so stupefyingly boring. Shouldn’t games at least be entertaining, not po-faced, solemn and pretentious? More tellingly, if they are only joking around, why do they react with such shrieks of dismay when somebody plays a joke at their expense. The genesis of Intellectual Impostures was a brilliant hoax perpetrated by Alan Sokal, and the stunning success of his coup was not greeted with the chuckles of delight that one might have hoped for after such a feat of deconstructive game playing. Apparently, when you’ve become the establishment, it ceases to be funny when somebody punctures the established bag of wind.

As is now rather well known, in 1996 Sokal submitted to the American journal Social Text a paper called ‘Transgressing the Boundaries: towards a transformative hermeneutics of quantum gravity.’ From start to finish the paper was nonsense. It was a carefully crafted parody of postmodern metatwaddle. Sokal was inspired to do this by Paul Gross and Normal Levitt’s Higher Superstition: the academic left and its quarrels with science (Johns Hopkins, 1994), an important book which deserves to become as well known in Britain as it already is in America. Hardly able to believe what he read in this book, Sokal followed up the references to postmodern literature, and found that Gross and Levitt did not exaggerate. He resolved to do something about it. In Gary Kamiya’s words:

Anyone who has spent much time wading through the pious, obscurantist, jargon-filled cant that now passes for ‘advanced’ thought in the humanities knew it was bound to happen sooner or later: some clever academic, armed with the not-so-secret passwords (‘hermeneutics,’ ‘transgressive,’ ‘Lacanian,’ ‘hegemony,’ to name but a few) would write a completely bogus paper, submit it to an au courant journal, and have it accepted . . . Sokal’s piece uses all the right terms. It cites all the best people. It whacks sinners (white men, the ‘real world’), applauds the virtuous (women, general metaphysical lunacy) . . . And it is complete, unadulterated bullshit – a fact that somehow escaped the attention of the high-powered editors of Social Text, who must now be experiencing that queasy sensation that afflicted the Trojans the morning after they pulled that nice big gift horse into their city.

Sokal’s paper must have seemed a gift to the editors because this was a physicist saying all the right-on things they wanted to hear, attacking the ‘post-Enlightenment hegemony’ and such uncool notions as the existence of the real world. They didn’t know that Sokal had also crammed his paper with egregious scientific howlers, of a kind that any referee with an undergraduate degree in physics would instantly have detected. It was sent to no such referee. The editors, Andrew Ross and others, were satisfied that its ideology conformed to their own, and were perhaps flattered by references to their own works. This ignominious piece of editing rightly earned them the 1996 Ig Nobel Prize for literature.

Notwithstanding the egg all over their faces, and despite their feminist pretensions, these editors are dominant males in the academic lekking arena. Andrew Ross himself has the boorish, tenured confidence to say things like "I am glad to be rid of English Departments. I hate literature, for one thing, and English departments tend to be full of people who love literature"; and the yahooish complacency to begin a book on ‘science studies’ with these words: "This book is dedicated to all of the science teachers I never had. It could only have been written without them." He and his fellow ‘cultural studies’ and ‘science studies’ barons are not harmless eccentrics at third rate state colleges. Many of them have tenured professorships at some of America’s best universities. Men of this kind sit on appointment committees, wielding power over young academics who might secretly aspire to an honest academic career in literary studies or, say, anthropology. I know – because many of them have told me – that there are sincere scholars out there who would speak out if they dared, but who are intimidated into silence. To them, Alan Sokal will appear as a hero, and nobody with a sense of humour or a sense of justice will disagree. It helps, by the way, although it is strictly irrelevant, that his own left wing credentials are impeccable.

In a detailed post-mortem of his famous hoax, submitted to Social Text but predictably rejected by them and published elsewhere, Sokal notes that, in addition to numerous half truths, falsehoods and non-sequiturs, his original article contained some "syntactically correct sentences that have no meaning whatsoever." He regrets that there were not more of the latter: "I tried hard to produce them, but I found that, save for rare bursts of inspiration, I just didn’t have the knack." If he were writing his parody today, he’d surely have been helped by a virtuoso piece of computer programming by Andrew Bulhak of Melbourne: the Postmodernism Generator. Every time you visit it, at http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/cgi-bin/postmodern, it will spontaneously generate for you, using falutless grammatical principles, a spanking new postmodern discourse, never before seen. I have just been there, and it produced for me a 6,000 word article called "Capitalist theory and the subtextual paradigm of context" by "David I.L.Werther and Rudolf du Garbandier of the Department of English, Cambridge University" (poetic justice there, for it was Cambridge who saw fit to give Jacques Derrida an honorary degree). Here’s a typical sentence from this impressively erudite work:

If one examines capitalist theory, one is faced with a choice: either reject neotextual materialism or conclude that society has objective value. If dialectic desituationism holds, we have to choose between Habermasian discourse and the subtextual paradigm of context. It could be said that the subject is contextualised into a textual nationalism that includes truth as a reality. In a sense, the premise of the subtextual paradigm of context states that reality comes from the collective unconscious.

Visit the Postmodernism Generator. It is a literally infinite source of randomly generated syntactically correct nonsense, distinguishable from the real thing only in being more fun to read. You could generate thousands of papers per day, each one unique and ready for publication, complete with numbered endnotes. Manuscripts should be submitted to the ‘Editorial Collective’ of Social Text, double-spaced and in triplicate.

As for the harder task of reclaiming humanities and social studies departments for genuine scholars, Sokal and Bricmont have joined Gross and Levitt in giving a friendly and sympathetic lead from the world of science. We must hope that it will be followed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dawkins; deconstruct; derrida; foucault; jacquesderrida; michaelfoucault; postmodernism; richarddawkins; subjectivism
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Amen. In many ways, the Left is more anti-science than the Right.
1 posted on 07/07/2002 8:32:38 AM PDT by Tomalak
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To: Tomalak
We are experiencing a great rebirth of...irony. Comedically speaking, "it's a good thing."
2 posted on 07/07/2002 8:35:56 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Tomalak
Wonderful post.
Thanks
3 posted on 07/07/2002 8:39:58 AM PDT by Hans
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To: Tomalak
I am not sure. Relevance is relative to the position of the viewer/user in all sociological scenarios. The gap between I/me and you/them distorts all cross-medium communication transmitational attempts. Only at a micro level of non-objective expression, is real communication possible. This has been verified by reference to string theory in cosmological studies. Reality comes in little pieces and blinks in and out of existence. So too, non-objective characterizations of semi-objective linguistic temporalities. parsy.
4 posted on 07/07/2002 8:58:41 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: Tomalak
What are you talking about?

Who ever said or thought the right was anti-Sceince.

Who ever thought Dawkins isn't a hardcore leftist.

5 posted on 07/07/2002 9:11:19 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Creationists are invariably on the right.
6 posted on 07/07/2002 9:15:06 AM PDT by Tomalak
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To: parsifal
What you said, whatever that is.
7 posted on 07/07/2002 9:15:56 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Tomalak
I'm sorry. I am fighting the natual urge to point out serious deficiencies in your worldview.

You'd do better than reading Dawkins and worrying about creationism vs evolutionism flapdoodle.

It's like you want to waste your time and what little intellectual capacity you have in inanities.

8 posted on 07/07/2002 9:19:01 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Nick Danger
"What you said, whatever that is."

Absolutely brilliant reposte! Because whatever any of us say is whatever we said. Interpersonal communication is like a fiber optic cable that carries many signals. We concentrate on the vibratory sonic pressure wave portion of the signal and eschew all other non-vibratory meaning signals. The bytes of communication have to be reprocessed and reassembled in a mutually acceptable matrix of meaning paradigms. So let me respond to you by saying YES--What you said, whatever it is--in the here and now. parsy the sympatico.

9 posted on 07/07/2002 9:26:31 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: Tomalak
This seems to explain why postmodernism, which was a Big Thing in some of the graduate-level education courses I took, never made any sense to me.




10 posted on 07/07/2002 9:27:27 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Tomalak
The best description I've heard of "po-mo" is from The Simpsons: weird for weird's sake.
11 posted on 07/07/2002 9:31:35 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Tomalak
Creationists are ultimately pro-science because we believe in absolute and unchanging truth. Leftists to not believe in such a thing as absolute truth, and so will ultimately reject science.

On one side are those who think we should seek the truth and conform our desires to it, on the other is the side that believes the "truth" is an illusion that should be conformed to our desires.

These are the ones that promote flawed "studies" designed to support whatever cause they were advocating to begin with. THAT is what will undermine public confidence in science. Not creationists questions, but leftists perversion - perversion of the scientific method into a mere propaganda tool.

Regardless of how frustrated you get with us on the marcroevolution issue, Creationists will ultitmately prove to be the greatist supporters of science, even as most of the great scientitsts of history were in fact creationists.

12 posted on 07/07/2002 9:47:43 AM PDT by Ahban
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To: parsifal
Spoken in true sequipedalian tergiversation! The Hegelian dynamic of your multi-dimensional response, while pregnant with nascent undertones of swirling higher meaning, leaves me gasping for what to say next, save this monosyllabic prolation: ouch.
13 posted on 07/07/2002 10:20:32 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: tallhappy
The left has "appropriated" the extreme right's literary tradition, I'm afraid.

Who are the literary heroes of the postmodernists? Martin Heidegger, Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, Paul de Man. None of those men was a friend to liberal democracy. All of them were anti-Enlightenment, anti-rationality, anti-science.

Heidegger, perhaps the greatest philosopher of the 20th century, was a member of the Nazi Party. De Man wrote pro-Nazi articles in his native Belgium. Nietzsche made war upon Christianity and proclaimed the death of God.

At least those men could write. The tenured radicals who inhabit our universities not only lack that ability, they lack the ability to make sense of what they've read. They give mediocrity a bad name.

14 posted on 07/07/2002 10:24:57 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: tallhappy; Tomalak; Ahban
If I may, can I suggest we not look at this through the "creation versus evolution" lens for a moment? Yes, it's true that Dawkins is a leftist, but it's also, but it's important that cogent criticisms of pomo nonsense come from leftists like Dawkins and Sokal (who is a wholly unreconstructed socialist himself). While much good and valuable criticism of postmodernism hascome from writers like Roger Kimball, Hilton Kramer, and Gertrude Himmelfarb, it's all too easy for the leftist practitioners of such quackery to dismiss conservative criticism as being biased and flawed.

Ultimately, the goal of postmodernism in general is to deny the reality of objective truth, and objective fact, and to render everything in terms of opinion and feelings and so forth. One may disagree with Dawkins et al about what exactly the truth is, but let us at least give him credit for standing up for the notion of truth in general. Let's not disagree with him strictly for the sake of disagreeing with him ;)

15 posted on 07/07/2002 11:05:26 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Tomalak
When he submitted his intentionally meaningless article to a post-intellectual modernist journal, Alan Sokal was engaging in the first known instance of what I will call the Inverse Turing Test.

In the ordinary Turing test, of course, the idea is for computer designers to come up with a computer with which you have a conversation, and you can't tell it apart from a flesh-and-blood person.

In the Inverse Turing test, you (a human being) try to imitate an automaton. If observers can't tell the difference between you and a real automaton, you've passed the test.

Such is the case in the articles published by the postintellectual modernist journals like the one that Sokal successfully hacked.

16 posted on 07/07/2002 12:03:27 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Tomalak
Ping for study
17 posted on 07/07/2002 12:07:49 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Tomalak
Atheists (libertarian or otherwise), feminists, omnigendered freaks, animal rights fruitcakes, and Darwinists are all fellow citizens of the realm of the far left. The atheist libertarians just gripe about the taxes they have to pay to live there.
18 posted on 07/07/2002 12:38:28 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: general_re
One may disagree with Dawkins et al about what exactly the truth is, but let us at least give him credit

Dawkins deserves nothing but contempt. He is an utter fool, and astoundingly smug about it. Dawkins is a gold-plated materialist hyperzealot who is far more fierce in defending his peculiar dogma than the most strident religious fundamentalist is in defending religious faith.

Dawkins wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit him on his smug, materialist hyperzealot nether cheeks.

19 posted on 07/07/2002 12:48:32 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Tomalak
>applause<

Man, it's not often something I read can get me to laugh, but this had me howling the whole way through. Thanks for a great read.

20 posted on 07/07/2002 12:52:45 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Kevin Curry
Geez, a brilliantly inspired attack on a very large section of the left, and you can't appreciate it just because the author happens to believe in evolution.
21 posted on 07/07/2002 12:57:35 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: parsifal
I don't think so at all. If one examines textual theory, one is faced with a choice: either accept realism or conclude that narrativity is capable of intentionality. An abundance of discourses concerning the role of the writer as participant exist. The subject is interpolated into a neodeconstructivist sublimation that includes consciousness as a paradox. But if textual theory holds, we have to choose between dialectic capitalism and poststructural cultural theory.

The same could be said, of course, about the designated hitter rule.

24 posted on 07/07/2002 1:58:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
WHICH "irony?"

Derrida's or real-world??

25 posted on 07/07/2002 2:18:24 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
We are experiencing a great rebirth of...irony

If I get your drift--I would rather say it is modern, cynical, and satirical. Modernist, in that this is the preferred language of a specialized club; cynical, in that it has recognized the failure of rationalism, and yet disrespects what is outside of its own specialization; and ubiquitous satire, in that in the end, nothing is sacred. But perhaps it is the height of irony which rejects both the comic "I am a god" and the tragic "I am not a god." The first step for a trick the author seeks in unmasking the sham is to keep our focus on the key question, "what is human nature?"

27 posted on 07/07/2002 2:34:01 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis; ninenot
There is the point of view that comedy is Christian.

Postmodernist jargon and gibberish are sort of crying out to be satirized.

28 posted on 07/07/2002 2:48:52 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: cornelis; ninenot
Here's one posted from another site, a...ahem... scholarly discussion:"I'm just curious as to how Jameson could be categorized as a post-Lacanian thinker, because everyone seems to always talk about him as a post-Marxist thinker a la Althusser and Lukacs. If anyone could make this clear to me I would really appreciate it."

Even if the term "post-Lacanian" could be assigned some definitive ontological status in a lexicon of avant-garde philosophy, I would still have trouble using it in a sentence and keeping a straight face at the same time. But then such jocular post-Binswangerian somersaulting makes me a little dizzy on occasion. It's hard to keep track of all these neologistic categories. [irony alert]

29 posted on 07/07/2002 2:57:00 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Alan Keyes made an astute observation after the 9th circuit pledge ruling in his piece, The Cost of Judicial Tyranny. He basically said that even though the outrage at the ruling was justified, the reactive attitude fosters a satirical vein in the American psyche. It is the irony he points out:

So, the apparent determination of Americans to keep the Pledge, whatever the courts say, means that the judges' decision may actually galvanize and intensify our national resolve against the forces of tyrannical terror – at least in the short term. However, there is a competing challenge before us. The more insidious danger is, ironically, suggested by the otherwise laudable popular rejection of the Ninth Circuit Court's ruling. There is widespread determination to keep the Pledge no matter what the courts say. And in this reaction we may finally be seeing the dangerous fruit of decades of judicial irresponsibility and tyranny, bringing us at length to the point where law abiding American citizens view the formal opinions of the federal judiciary with active contempt. Particularly in First Amendment cases, the federal judiciary has richly deserved the ridicule and rejection being showered on last week's decision.
This same sort of irony is involved in the ubiquitous satire for anything we don't understand. We must first begin to admit that our age is post-modern. As John Lukacs, said, the modern age is over, kaput, terminee.
30 posted on 07/07/2002 3:07:44 PM PDT by cornelis
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We must first begin to admit that our age is post-modern. As John Lukacs, said, the modern age is over, kaput, terminee. 30 posted on 7/7/02 3:07 PM Pacific by cornelis

And avoid equivocation. The ideas of a post-modern (or post-Christian)age, suggested by the likes of Toynbee, Lukacs, Voegelin, or Walker Percy, et al., are in a different paradigm altogether from the anti-foundationalist relativism popular with left-wing academics.

31 posted on 07/07/2002 3:11:00 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
And avoid equivocation

? Please explain. I'll iterate: satire is your weakest weapon.

32 posted on 07/07/2002 3:13:34 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis
Hmmm?

No idea where this is going or what you are taking issue with. If you think irony and satire are the preserve of the anti-foundationalist post-modern mythos, I suggest you post a letter to Swift, Waugh, Chesterton & Co. and inform them.

33 posted on 07/07/2002 3:16:56 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
I use post-modern in its most general acceptance, what comes after the modern. That should, it seems, provisionally count for every paradigm. In any case, from the authors you have mentioned, there is an academic consensus that rationalism has been found bankrupt.
34 posted on 07/07/2002 3:17:30 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
If you think irony and satire are the preserve of the anti-foundationalist post-modern mythos

I don't. It is the preserve of the popular American psyche. It is the usual posture toward the burden of history and human nature.

35 posted on 07/07/2002 3:19:56 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis
I see. Thanks for the input. There was another book published recently about "irony" from a Christian point of view which takes a different spin.
36 posted on 07/07/2002 3:21:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Billthedrill
That depends on which kind of reality you are talking about. Self-reflexive reality loops are real in one sense of the word but unreal if the loops are viewed in a topological contextual analysis. Therefore in a topological and non-topological syntax, one person could be thrown for a loop, or lack of a loop.

And the designated hitter is a perfect example of cross purposeful design theory confluence. Is "national" more American than "american", or is "american" more national than "National." This is simply deja vu all over again. parsy the parser.
37 posted on 07/07/2002 3:31:55 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: Tomalak
bump
38 posted on 07/07/2002 3:32:20 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tomalak
All of here might appreciate a book, A Critique of Pure Verbiage by R. Englefield. I found this wee blurbie on a net search a minute ago:

Then the joy of unpacking a half-forgotten, neglected, English philosopher:

Critique of Pure Verbiage -- Essays on Abuses of Language in Literary, Religious, and Philosophical Writings

by Ronald Englefield, Ed. G. A. Wells & D. R. Oppenheimer, Open Court Publishing, 1990

I mean the title alone! And for the life of me I can't recall how and when I acquired this wondrous book

Ronald (1891-1975) will rise rise again, I swear.

He entirely screws, oops, disputes all those humorless Krauts (Kant, Hegel, Heidegger and that crowd) with good old Brit, Humean and Russellian commonsense. Well, he's not just knee-jerk anti-German, although he physically fought (mentioned in Dispatch) the Hun from the WW1 trenches in France. He survived this horror, and went on to teach French and German at various schools from 1920 to 1952, never gaining his due recognitions.

He sees much merit in Leibniz and even more in Goethe, and occasionally knocks Ruskin, Ryle, Ayer, even Whitehead!

In his essay on Things, Ideas, And Words we read

"Unfortunately there are certain regions of thought where the most abstract ideas are the principal topic and where in consequence there is no simple imaginative substitute for words. The concrete foundation of a highly abstract idea is apt to be so vast that there is no room for it in the mind of the philosopher, whatever species of symbolic representation he may employ. But just where the idea expands beyond the speculative mind 'Da stellt ein Wort zur rechten Zeit sich ein'"

["That is just where a word puts in a timely appearance." Goethe's Faust, part 1, line 1996]

He's good on apparent NL paradoxes:

Of the liar who lost her dentures, Englefield posits:

"She speaks without truth and teeth."


39 posted on 07/07/2002 3:40:43 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: cornelis
There is widespread determination to keep the Pledge no matter what the courts say. And in this reaction we may finally be seeing the dangerous fruit of decades of judicial irresponsibility and tyranny, bringing us at length to the point where law abiding American citizens view the formal opinions of the federal judiciary with active contempt.

"under God,"

If only people would get half as pissed over 25,000 dead, shredded, aborted babies per week as they have over those two words.

40 posted on 07/07/2002 4:59:50 PM PDT by Lester Moore
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To: Claud
I absolutely love this. I remember this article but could never find reference to it. Simply brilliant.

What Sokal neglects to accomplish however, is a radical re-evaluation of the meta-hypotheses which underpine the post-modern substructure. Had he taken the point of view that feminist critical theory and Gramscian Marxo-centric humanism, when synthesized with Jungian psychoanalytic process and imposed upon a quantum triaxial framework, could actually produce a working model of meaning, I suggest that he may have stumbled across a new and powerful definition of the word "thing." I call this model gastrometacognaphytophonics.

End transmission...
41 posted on 07/07/2002 8:18:55 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Reactionary
The left has "appropriated" the extreme right's literary tradition, I'm afraid. Who are the literary heroes of the postmodernists? Martin Heidegger, Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, Paul de Man. None of those men was a friend to liberal democracy. All of them were anti-Enlightenment, anti-rationality, anti-science.

And this is surprising... why? Extreme left and right are actually two sides of the same coin.
42 posted on 07/07/2002 8:21:49 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Tomalak
What would have been my choice of study was the first eaten by the deconstructive cancer: Linguistics. I guess I'm a throwback to the "Age of Reason". I can't well tolerate this "Age of Illusion".
43 posted on 07/07/2002 8:50:39 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Lester Moore
You have a point. An explanation for historical appearances is a difficult task.
44 posted on 07/07/2002 9:29:10 PM PDT by cornelis
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Anybody read Levinas?
45 posted on 07/07/2002 9:34:19 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Kevin Curry
Mwhaha...you have a way with words!
46 posted on 07/07/2002 9:35:45 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: parsifal
Parsi, go to your room! [Refill your glass on the way though.]
47 posted on 07/07/2002 9:51:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: JMJ333
Mwhaha...you have a way with words!

I was going to respond to his post and ask him to take it a notch higher--beyond the rhetoric--and give us a respectable critique. This is where the piece itself by Dawkins is not helpful. Anything, I repeat, anything can be slammed. It is an art to analyze and understand.

48 posted on 07/07/2002 9:56:39 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Antoninus
Yes.
49 posted on 07/07/2002 10:00:15 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: cornelis
lol...I once went that route by proclaiming Dawkins a nazi after reading one of his article. Duly chastized... ;)
50 posted on 07/07/2002 10:01:30 PM PDT by JMJ333
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