Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Police Battle Protesters After N. Irish March
Yahoo ^ | Sun Jul 7 | Andrew Cawthorne

Posted on 07/07/2002 3:53:41 PM PDT by Michael2001

DRUMCREE, Northern Ireland (Reuters) - Police fired plastic bullets and turned a water cannon on stone-throwing Protestant rioters on Sunday as the most volatile parade of Northern Ireland's marching season ended in violence.

At least 24 officers and two protesters were injured during the hour-long melee at the village of Drumcree in which Protestants furious they could not march pass a Catholic neighborhood hurled stones, bricks, logs and bottles.

"You scum! This is our road, you can't stop us!" yelled one of the protesters, in his early 20s, as he rushed toward riot police with a large rock in his hands.

Women stood nearby, urging the men "Stand your ground!" as police twice charged the crowd. Some children also threw stones.

The riot was the latest example of the resurgent violence in Northern Ireland that is jeopardizing the British-ruled province's peace process under the 1998 Good Friday accord.

That agreement was meant to end three decades of sectarian strife -- costing more than 3,600 lives -- between pro-British Protestants and Catholics seeking to unite the province of 1.6 million people with Ireland to the south.

The violence at Drumcree began after a peaceful march by some 1,300 members of the hardline Orange Order, named after the 17th century Protestant King William of Orange.

Several dozen young men began throwing stones across a steel barrier put up by police and soldiers on a bridge to stop the Orange Order marching back to Portadown via the Catholic-populated Garvaghy Road neighborhood.

POLICE AND PROTESTERS HURT

Cheered on and then joined by some Orange Order members wearing their traditional orange sashes, the young protesters broke through the blockade and taunted police.

Army paratroopers then moved in to put up a new barricade on the bridge in the shape of a huge metal container full of concrete. Lines of razor wire stopped protesters getting across the fields beside the bridge.

Nine of the injured policemen were taken to hospital, some with head wounds from large rocks hurled into their ranks from a short distance.

At least two protesters were also injured, one with a gash to his arm from a plastic bullet, according to witnesses. Three rioters were arrested.

Assistant Chief Constable Stephen White, in charge of security at Drumcree, was spat upon as he received an official protest from the Orange Order minutes before the riot. He condemned the "mindless, evil thugs" who attacked his men.

"I've worn the uniform all my adult life trying to serve all sides in this community and to be spat upon and have my officers spat upon and having stones thrown at us as we are trying to afford the dignity this institution asked us to afford to, it is very disappointing," he said.

Security forces had deliberately scaled back measures at the march, where big clashes have broken out in the past, after being assured paramilitaries were staying away to help defuse tensions in the province running high after riots in Belfast.

But they were quick to deploy most of a 2,000-strong force on standby in case of trouble.

APPEALS FOR CALM IGNORED

David Burrows, deputy district master of the Portadown Orange Order, appealed for calm. "At the end of the day, this doesn't help our cause and everyone here can see that, many in the world will see," he said.

Earlier, Burrows had called the barrier blocking the road to the Catholic area "an obscenity."

An Irish tri-color flag was burned during the violence and a television cameraman was pushed into a nearby stream as protesters turned on media they accused of being more sympathetic to Catholics.

By evening, persistent rain had helped disperse the crowd. "The sky's own water cannon is now working its best for us," a police spokesman on the scene said.

The Drumcree parade was the start of a week of Protestant celebrations to mark King William's Battle of the Boyne victory on July 12, 1690, over Catholic King James II.

Catholics view the marches as provocative triumphalism.

"We feel intimidated and aggrieved, locked into our own community," Joe Duffy, a leader of the Garvaghy Road Residents' Coalition, told Reuters. His group represents the 6,500 Catholics in the neighborhood of Portadown that the Protestant marchers wanted to pass through after reaching Drumcree.

The Orange Order has marched from Portadown to Drumcree church and back every year, but has been banned since 1998 from passing through the Garvaghy Road. (Additional reporting by Michael Roddy)


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last
The violence in N Ireland has always escaped my understanding. Do these people really believe that small doctrinal differences are worth a civil war? Maybe as Ireland accepts more Muslim "refugees" these folk will begin to realize that Christians shouldn't be fighting each other.
1 posted on 07/07/2002 3:53:41 PM PDT by Michael2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
Do these people really believe that small doctrinal differences are worth a civil war?

They seem to have in the past certainly. It is actually a little more complicated than what type of liturgy you attend,who officiates sacraments, honor accorded to the Virgin Mary, which translation of the Bible, authority of the papacy, etc. The historical and cultural peculiarities associated with the triumph of William of Orange over James II in the north of Ireland also involved other things. Scottish immigration, etc. At any rate, the provocative bating, the violence, etc. have lasted whereas in North America the religious conflict tends to be between liberal atheists and Christians in general. Generally speaking, we don't have flamboyant, costumed, inter-denominational street riots here anymore. Pro-gay protests at some churches, yes. Pro-life vs. pro-abortion street conflict, yes.

2 posted on 07/07/2002 4:08:01 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
Has virtually zero to do with doctrinal differences, it has everything to do with lingering British dominance over the 16(?) counties of Northern Ireland.

Another one of those pesky cases of 'national sovereignty'.

In another few years we'll be dealing with it as the Illegal Mexicans (who will be naturalized citizens by that time) continue to demand an ever larger slice of 'whitey's' American pie.

But we may not have anything to worry about, cause the United Nations and their World Court will probably step in to solve the problem, and punish the guilty.

3 posted on 07/07/2002 4:20:12 PM PDT by CIBvet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
I thought Bill Clinton brought peace to Northern Ireland. Looks like someone didn't get the memo.
4 posted on 07/07/2002 4:21:33 PM PDT by mountaineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
Your comments are practical-for today. However, read the story of the seige by James II forces. People can remember for a long time.
5 posted on 07/07/2002 4:27:48 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
"You scum! This is our road, you can't stop us!" yelled one of the protesters, in his early 20s, as he rushed toward riot police with a large rock in his hands."

The 'scum' here is this young piece of trash.
6 posted on 07/07/2002 5:45:00 PM PDT by Gigantor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
No kidding about the grudges. There's STILL a long time hatred for Cromwell that gets passed from generation to generation.
7 posted on 07/07/2002 9:10:58 PM PDT by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Just doesn't make much sense. Heck we had our wars with the British for our independence. Had two terrible wars with Germany, the latter of which many still remember. We've moved on.
8 posted on 07/07/2002 10:14:00 PM PDT by Michael2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: stylin19a
I have a certain admiration for Cromwell.(Don't know too much about him though. Read only a few books about the man.)
9 posted on 07/08/2002 8:05:23 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
??? you mean admire THIS Comwell ????
"It was in August of ’40 that Cromwell landed in Dublin. The great leader of the grim Ironsides, himself, was destined to leave behind him in Ireland for all time a name synonymous with ruthless butchery. The first rare taste of the qualities of this agent of God the Just, and first Friend of the Irish was given to the people at Drogheda. Only thirty men out of a garrison of three thousand escaped the sword. After Drogheda, Cromwell in quick succession reduced the other northern strongholds, then turned and swept southward to Wexford - two thousand were butchered here."

Like I said, the grudges get passed on from generation to generation.
10 posted on 07/08/2002 8:17:32 PM PDT by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: stylin19a
Nothing against the Irish. I'm familiar with Oliver's Irish campaigns. Overall he is an interesting man. Perhaps merely a military type. Yet, perhaps a religious fanatic, a politician, a statesman? Perhaps a combination of all. One historian likened his movement to that headed by Pythagoras of ancient times. I don't know. He is just one of those men I intend to study when I retire.
11 posted on 07/08/2002 8:24:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: stylin19a
P.S. By the way I agree with your comments as to people having long memories.
12 posted on 07/08/2002 8:26:01 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
So what is it with these men who have to dress up in orange sashes and go marching?
13 posted on 07/08/2002 8:35:22 PM PDT by ladyjane
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gigantor
"You scum! This is our road, you can't stop us!" yelled one of the protesters, in his early 20s, as he rushed toward riot police with a large rock in his hands."

The 'scum' here is this young piece of trash"

This young 'Orange" protestor would not be of Irish desent whatsoever, but a leftover decendent of the conquering British Empire who still maintain control of these northern counties, holding the good jobs for themselves and theirs, and still treating the Irish as 2nd class citizens.

The chaffing of such continued dominance combined with years of hatred under foreign rule, sparks the fire of fierce nationalism in the Irish patriot.

Try to change places with the Irish for a moment... let's say the British had won the Revolutionary War and their decendents were still around celebrating our defeat, while working the best jobs in your town, living in comfortable homes while you and yours were sealed away in YOUR ghetto.

The British controled media want the world to think it's a Protestant (Church of England) thing versus a Catholic (Irish Catholic) thing. Avoids the whole question of hunger for self-rule ... of a people seeking to be live free from benevolent oppression.

14 posted on 07/09/2002 11:36:30 AM PDT by CIBvet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001; ladyjane; stylin19a
Meant to *ping* you all with my #14 post.
15 posted on 07/09/2002 11:44:03 AM PDT by CIBvet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: CIBvet
"The British controled media want the world to think it's a Protestant (Church of England) thing versus a Catholic (Irish Catholic) thing. Avoids the whole question of hunger for self-rule ... of a people seeking to be live free from benevolent oppression. "

Good observation. If the English had treated the people in Ireland like they treated those in Canada, there never would have been any 'troubles'.

16 posted on 07/09/2002 11:56:39 AM PDT by ex-snook
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: CIBvet
What then do the Protestants (English) have to protest and march about then?
17 posted on 07/09/2002 3:24:13 PM PDT by Michael2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Michael2001
To maintain their long history of oppression and domination over the land and people their ancestors in the 'British Empire' conquered and squatted upon so many, many years ago.
18 posted on 07/09/2002 6:35:09 PM PDT by CIBvet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

Comment #19 Removed by Moderator

To: ladyjane
The historical European Protestant pasttime: sectarian violence.
20 posted on 07/09/2002 9:04:00 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson