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Coulter 1, Couric 0 (Katie LIED During Today Show Interview!)
Kausfiles.com ^ | July 8, 2002 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 07/08/2002 6:40:40 AM PDT by Timesink

Coulter 1, Couric 0

Nexis decides a round of the Today catfight.

By Mickey Kaus
Updated Monday, July 8, 2002, at 2:18 AM PT

This isn't an argument, it's mere refutation: Two weeks ago, Today host Katie Couric got into a dispute with her guest Ann Coulter over how many times Today had misleadingly said Reagan biographer Edmund Morris called his subject an "airhead." (What Morris really said was that Reagan had been an "apparent airhead" but that he'd learned this wasn't true.)

Coulter: So for the Today show to be opening three days in a row, Ronald Reagan was an airhead, I'm sorry, that's dishonest.

Couric: It was one day. And also, just for your information it, was one day.

Coulter: No, you said it one day. Matt Lauer said it another day.

Couric: No, it was just one day, and we'll get the transcripts for you

Let's go to NEXIS! Answer: Two days, three times (plus once on "Later Today"). Couric said it on Sept. 27, 1999. The next day, as charged, Lauer opened the show by talking about "the author's assertion that Reagan was a great president but an airhead." NBC's Jamie Gangel repeated the "airhead" charge without the "apparent" later that day in a Today interview with ex-President George H.W. Bush. The winner: Coulter on points. She was closer to the truth than Couric, who picked this particular fact fight and was wrong. ... The account in Coulter's book (which doesn't make the "three days" charge) appears to be completely accurate -- though whether Today was guilty of dishonest liberal bias or dishonest ratings-grubbing hype is a call you, the reader, can make. [Who fed this to you? Coulter?--ed. Senior officials in the Coulter camp. But it checked out.] 1:30 A.M.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; colonblow; katiecouric; liberalbias; mediabias; nbc; nbcnews; todayshow
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1 posted on 07/08/2002 6:40:40 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Bump! And this needs to be read by ALL FREEPERS! Will Katie Couric respond to the facts? Don't hold your breath.
2 posted on 07/08/2002 6:44:15 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Timesink
**Mega Bump**
3 posted on 07/08/2002 6:45:05 AM PDT by TwoStep
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To: JohnHuang2
For your Perusal Oh Mighty King of Ping.
4 posted on 07/08/2002 6:45:19 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Timesink
Link to related post ==>> Katie Lied (Not the Steely Dan Song)
5 posted on 07/08/2002 6:47:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: PJ-Comix
Paste and mail this to today@nbc.com

en masse!!!

6 posted on 07/08/2002 6:49:19 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Timesink
Didn't see the show but did read the transcript AND did read the book. Couric was her usual airhead self.
7 posted on 07/08/2002 6:49:30 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: Timesink
Gosh, a liberal media babe lied? What is the world coming too? BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! GO ANN!And where is the obligatory picture of Ann, i need my conservative good looking lady fix?
8 posted on 07/08/2002 6:50:58 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: 1Old Pro
Katie Couric will never have the opportunity to lie to me.

I don't watch her show.

9 posted on 07/08/2002 6:51:55 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: Timesink
I am almost finshed with the Coulter book--it is "Amazing;" "Brilliant;" "Better referenced than a cardiology textbook;" "Where Bias was a lost skirmish by the liberal media, Slander is their Waterloo"

And you can quote me.

10 posted on 07/08/2002 6:52:18 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Timesink
THat is what is so admirable about the talented, graceful and lovely Ann Coulter-she always has both oars in the water.
11 posted on 07/08/2002 6:52:28 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Pharmboy
I'm picking it up on my way to work tonight..Gonna read it in front of the boss (A lib) on my breaks.
Might be interesting....
12 posted on 07/08/2002 6:53:58 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Gosh, a liberal media babe lied?

If you mean "babe" in the sense of Babe the Pig or Babe the Blue Ox when referring to Couric, then I agree.

13 posted on 07/08/2002 6:56:31 AM PDT by quark
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To: RandallFlagg
I was reading it on my NYC bus this morning--I got one dirty look. LOL!!
14 posted on 07/08/2002 6:56:33 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Timesink
Why are you posting as news that a leftist lied?

What's next?

"Pope outed as Catholic!"

Bear sh*ts in woods!"

I don't get it. To quote Mary McCarthy re: veteran leftist author Lillian Hellman, "Everything she writes is a lie, including 'and' and 'the' ". You could say the same of perky Katie-and it certainly isn't news.

15 posted on 07/08/2002 6:56:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Pharmboy
BWAHAHA!! That's GREAT!
16 posted on 07/08/2002 6:57:16 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Timesink
You can watch a rerun of Ann and Katie online at http://msnbc.com/news/763069.asp:


Ann Coulter on liberal bias in the media
June 26, 2002 — “Today” host Katie Couric talks with conservative author Ann Coulter about her book, “Slander,” that talks about liberal bias in the media

17 posted on 07/08/2002 7:07:47 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: WaterDragon
I've got the book, but have not had time to read it. Is it good?
18 posted on 07/08/2002 7:17:00 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: PJ-Comix; BigWaveBetty; Fixit
From:
Coulter vs Couric Live Thread
6-26-2002
Posted on 6/26/02 2:54 AM Pacific by BigWaveBetty

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September 27, 1999, Monday

NBC'S TODAY SHOW, 7:00 AM

KATIE COURIC, co-host:

Good morning. The Gipper was an airhead. That's one of the conclusions of a new biography of Ronald Reagan that's drawing a tremendous amount of interest and fire today, Monday, September the 27th, 1999.
_____________________

September 27, 1999, Monday

REPORTERS: BOB KUR

KATIE COURIC, co-host:

On CLOSE UP this morning, Ronald Reagan. The official biography of the former president 14 years in the making hits book stores this morning. Already "Dutch: A Memoir of Ronald Reagan," is raising eyebrows and generating controversy. We asked NBC's Bob Kur to take a look.

BOB KUR reporting:

Pulitzer prize-winning author Edmund Morris had extraordinary access to President Reagan for many years, beginning in 1985 during Reagan's second term. Morris predicts his blunt appraisal of Reagan's intellect, his state of mind in the White House, will disturb some readers, especially Nancy Reagan. He writes, "Dutch remained a mystery to me, and worse still--dare I entertain such a heresy, in the hushed and reverent precincts of his office?--an apparent airhead."

Mr. EDWIN MEESE (Former Reagan Aide): That just was not Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a very intelligent person. He didn't pretend to be an intellectual.

_____________________

September 28, 1999, Tuesday

KATIE COURIC reporting: Thank you Stone.

(Voiceover) We'll look at the controversial new biography of Ronald Reagan. Does the author go too far? We'll ask him.
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September 28, 1999, Tuesday

MATT LAUER, co-host:

Good morning. For the first time, President Bush is responding to the controversial new biography of Ronald Reagan and, in particular, the author's assertion that Reagan was a great president but an airhead.

President GEORGE BUSH: It is brutal and grossly unfair and untrue. LAUER: And Mr. Bush has more to say today, Tuesday, September 28th, 1999.

Announcer: From NBC News, this is TODAY, with Katie Couric and Matt Lauer, live from Studio 1A in Rockefeller Plaza.

___________________

September 29, 1999, Wednesday


COURIC: Then, Matt, another man who's getting a lot of attention. He's written the biography of Ronald Reagan. Edmund Morris was the first writer ever named an authorized biographer of a sitting president. He received unprecedented access to President Reagan in the White House and it took him 14 years to finish the book. But it's taken less than four days for Reagan's friends and associates to assail the author for some of his conclusions. This morning Edmund Morris gets to respond.

LAUER: And apparently, some people think he has some explaining to do.

COURIC: That's true.



__________________

September 29, 1999, Wednesday


EDMUND MORRIS DISCUSSES HIS BOOK, "DUTCH: A MEMOIR OF RONALD REAGAN"


KATIE COURIC, co-host:

On CLOSE UP this morning, the book on Ronald Reagan. The long-awaited biography of the 40th president written by Edmund Morris will be published tomorrow. Already, though, "Dutch: A Memoir of Ronald Reagan" is generating a ton of interest and a lot of controversy.

Edmund Morris, good morning. Welcome back to today.

Mr. EDMUND MORRIS (Author, "Dutch"): Thank you, Katie. COURIC: Are you surprised at the--the controversy that has resulted so far from this book?

Mr. MORRIS: I'm not surprised at the controversy. I kind of expected it as far as the technique of the book is concerned, because it is a revolutionary, new advance in biographical technique. What did surprise me was the misquoting that's come about. And that has distressed me somewhat. But I fully expected and welcome the controversy about the technique.

COURIC: There has been a lot of outrage expressed by President Reagan's friends and associates about your use of the word airhead...

Mr. MORRIS: Yes.

COURIC: ...to describe him. George Bush says it's brutal, grossly unfair, untrue. Ed Meese, former attorney general, said it's not fair, not true. Marlin Fitzwater, former press secretary, says it's totally inappropriate to describe the former president that way.

Mr. MORRIS: I agree with every single one of those. It's brutal and grossly unfair. I did not call him an airhead. The quote as published first in The Washington Post dropped the word apparent before head. What I said in the book, what appears plainly on the pages, I found him at first an apparent airhead. And the whole course of the book makes quite obvious that that first impression was wrong.

COURIC: So you do not believe today that Ronald Reagan was an airhead?

Mr. MORRIS: Oh, good God, no. He was a very bright man.
At first I was surprised and--and dismayed by the apparent banality of his conversation--I couldn't reconcile this--but the--the--the utter ordinariness of the private man with how magical he became when he stepped out in front of the cameras.

COURIC: In fact, what you say, Mr. Morris, in your words from the book is, quote, "What you see is what you get, several of the above-named intimates had warned me when I asked about his hidden depths. Nevertheless, I could not believe how little one, indeed, got, and how shallow those depths appeared to be." Are you saying now this morning that you found President Reagan to have great intellectual depth?

Mr. MORRIS: Shallow the depths appeared to be. You see, he was all mystery. He seemed to be shallow. He seemed to have no culture. He seemed to have--to be resistant to new ideas from outside. He seemed all these things. One of the reasons it took me 14 years to write the book was to come to grips with this apparent simplicity which concealed depths and depths and depths.

COURIC: So you believe, today, that he is a man of great depth, or was?

Mr. MORRIS: Oh, absolutely. He was a huge and important man. He had a--he had a presidential mind. He was a statesman. He kept himself to himself, which is one of the reasons it was hard to penetrate him.

COURIC: Indeed...

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257 posted on 6/26/02 2:31 PM Pacific by Fixit


19 posted on 07/08/2002 7:18:39 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Sunshine Sister
See #10 above.
20 posted on 07/08/2002 7:19:23 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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