ANTI-CATHOLIC LECTURES NIXED AT L.A. COLLEGE

Catholic League ^ | 7-8-2002 | William Donohue

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...two anti-Catholic lectures that were scheduled at Pierce Community College in Los Angeles as part of the Encore/Oasis continuing education program. A lecture titled “The Sex Lives of the Popes” was scheduled for August 5, while “Crime and Immorality in the Catholic Church” was to take place August 12. Both lectures were to be given by Charlotte Poe. Ms. Poe has no academic credentials and is described in the Pierce catalog as a “Freethinker,” a group hostile to religion in general and Catholicism in particular. Catholic League president William Donohue wrote to the sponsors of the Encore/Oasis program regarding these lectures. They were subsequently cancelled. ...“These lectures were as indefensible as one called ‘Sex Lives of Prominent Rabbis’ taught by someone with no academic credentials and who belonged to an anti-Semitic organization or one called ‘Crime and Immorality in Islam—from Muhammad to 9-11’ taught by someone with no academic credentials and who belonged to an anti-Muslim organization. The sponsors of the Encore/Oasis series realized this, apologized and cancelled the lectures. We appreciate the fact they acted quickly and responsibly. It should be noted the Catholic League never asked for the lectures to be cancelled.”

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July 8, 2002

ANTI-CATHOLIC LECTURES NIXED AT L.A. COLLEGE

The Catholic League recently learned of two anti-Catholic lectures that were scheduled at Pierce Community College in Los Angeles as part of the Encore/Oasis continuing education program.  A lecture titled “The Sex Lives of the Popes” was scheduled for August 5, while “Crime and Immorality in the Catholic Church” was to take place August 12.  Both lectures were to be given by Charlotte Poe.  Ms. Poe has no academic credentials and is described in the Pierce catalog as a “Freethinker,” a group hostile to religion in general and Catholicism in particular.  Catholic League president William Donohue wrote to the sponsors of the Encore/Oasis program regarding these lectures.  They were subsequently cancelled.  Donohue spoke to the situation today: 

“The first lecture is based on a book by Nigel Cawthorne who has been described as a journalist who appears to specialize in the sensational.  The second lecture is based on a book by Emmett McLoughlin, a former Catholic priest who has made a name for himself denouncing the Catholic Church. 

“Further, other lectures in the program are presented by qualified academics and do not attack other religions.  Right below the two Catholic-themed lectures is listed ‘Introduction to Islam,’ taught by a professor of theology at Boston College. 

“These lectures were as indefensible as one called ‘Sex Lives of Prominent Rabbis’ taught by someone with no academic credentials and who belonged to an anti-Semitic organization or one called ‘Crime and Immorality in Islam—from Muhammad to 9-11’ taught by someone with no academic credentials and who belonged to an anti-Muslim organization.   The sponsors of the Encore/Oasis series realized this, apologized and cancelled the lectures.  We appreciate the fact they acted quickly and responsibly. It should be noted the Catholic League never asked for the lectures to be cancelled.”

[irish guard]

As a Catholic, I say bring it on baby, as long as we can also have anti-Muslim lectures and anti-Jewish lectures and anti anything else lectures!

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Charlotte Poe, the non-credentialed "lecturer" is also the foundress & presidentrix of the Freethinkers of Ventura County (and a purveyor of the stupid darwin fish with legs).


http://www.poespecs.com/catalo g.htm

[BenR2]

As a Catholic, I say bring it on baby, as long as we can also have anti-Muslim lectures and anti-Jewish lectures and anti anything else lectures!

I agree. As it is now, we can only have anti-Patriot, anti-white, anti-straight, and anti-Christian lectures.

By the way, you might not like what you hear about the sex lives of some of the Popes in the Middle Ages. (Racy is too tame a word for it!)

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No other institution could survive and thrive despite all the scandal. What a testament to the divine nature of the Catholic Church. (BTW: The fact that the pope is a created sinful human is news to no faithful Catholic.)

[buffyt]

I guess anti-Muslim lectures would be PI and 'profiling' ???

"Ms. Poe has no academic credentials and is described in the Pierce catalog as a “Freethinker,”

SHEESH!!!!!! ....and people wonder why everyone calls us nuts, flakes, and fruits here in L.A.! Well, duh.... Maybe we should fall off into the ocean! I remember a joke on Sat. Night Live. They said "California has fallen into the sea! The gov. can't decide whether to do anything about it, or to just leave well enough alone." he he he I am in L.A. I love L.A., but some days.....

Today my son and I are going to go to Mann's Chinese theatre, tour Chinatown, and see a live taping of Craig Kilbourne show. Gotta hit those crazy freeways soon....

[malakhi]

Hey, who needs to attend anti-Catholic lectures when we have our own little thing going on right over here?

Thanks for your promotional efforts.

[B Knotts]

I don't quite understand the point of that thread. It seems to consist of strong-willed people hashing over the same arguments ad infinitum.

[buffyt]

Some of his other books --

1. The Sex Lives of the Kings and Queens of England: From Henry VIII to the Present Day by Nigel Cawthorne

2. Images of The Cat by Nigel Cawthorne

3. Sex Lives of the Great Dictators: An Irreverent Expose of Despots, Tyrants and Other Monsters by Nigel Cawthorne

4. Sex Lives of the Hollywood Idols by Nigel Cawthorne

5. The Art of the Icon by Nigel Cawthorne

6. Sex Lives of the Hollywood Goddesses by Nigel Cawthorne

7. Sex Lives of the Great Composers by Nigel Cawthorne

8. A Century of Shoes: Icons of Style in the 20th Century by Angela Pattison, Nigel Cawthorne

9. Key Moments in Fashion by Nigel Cawthorne

10. The Bamboo Cage: The Full Story of the American Servicemen Still Missing in Vietnam by Nigel Cawthorne From our Marketplace Sellers Used: $7.00

[buffyt]

Books by Emmett McLoughlin

1. People's padre, an autobiography by Emmett McLoughlin (Author) Out of Print--Limited Availability

2. Crime and Immorality in the Catholic Church by Emmett McLoughlin (Paperback - June 1962)

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Sounds like a history course at the Catholic university I attended. This kind of exaggerated preoccupation (and obsession) with negative features of European religious history is really rather common. It goes on all the time on the outer fringes of subliterate apocalyptic cults, identifying the Pope as the Antichrist as some on FR have.
But suggesting that all Catholic priests and all Catholic popes are bad based on past examples is sort of like saying all Americans whip black slaves, slaughter Indians, and stage witch trials and that these episodes are illustrative of the American character or the typical Protestant. Oh...wait a minute... [just kidding]

[xm177e2]

As a Catholic, I say bring it on baby, as long as we can also have anti-Muslim lectures and anti-Jewish lectures and anti anything else lectures!

Yes! Bring on the freedom of speech!

[irish guard]

I got some of the same at ND, but actually thought it was good to learn about that stuff. Where did you go/attend?

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Sin is always a tagedy. But, no, the rate among Catholic clergy is not huge. It is by all accounts less than the rate of average men and/or similiarly situated men (counselors, married ministers, etc.).

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http://216.239.35.100/search?q =cache:0kXijaK0ozsC:www.jsonli ne.com/news/nat/apr02/37147.as p+%2B%22rate+of+pedophilia%22& amp;hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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http://www.catholicleague.org/ 02press_releases/pr0202.htm#CO URIER-POST%20STOOPS%20TO%20CATHOLIC% 20BAITING

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

The difference would be that Catholic teaching accounts for the human frailty, sinfulness, and weakness, which explain why there are bad clergymen, the obsessional anti-Catholic bigot crusader wants to suggest that there is a necessary and exclusive connection between Catholic teaching and evil which does not exist in another denomination or in entirely secular systems (like, say, Communism or liberalism?). In other words, the Catholic clergy have a corner on the market of vice, evil, malefaction. That's the claim.

Traditionally, there is usually an obsession with the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition without the consideration that peculiarities in Renaissance Spanish culture (rather than Catholicism) might account for that or that just about every pre-modern civilization on the planet had some type of institutions or practices associated with cruelty, sadism, torture, murder in warfare, etc. We still do today - partial-birth abortion, serial murderers, spousal abuse, capital punishment, terrorism, etc. And these are taking place in societies hardly dominated by the Church. You will find paranoid schizophrenics, psychotics, sadists, sexual perverts, domestic violence, torture, murder, corruptions and abuses of power in just about every society or civilization on the planet. The rhetoric of attributing these to Catholicism or the "dark ages" is part of a fuzzy progressive ideology.

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(story at link directly above)

May 17, 2002

COURIER-POST STOOPS TO CATHOLIC BAITING

The Courier-Post, a New Jersey daily newspaper, announced on May 13 that it is conducting a student-essay contest on the sexual-abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. “The alleged abuse of minors by priests in the Catholic Church is the subject of May’s Student Voices essay and editorial cartoon contest. Entries must answer the question, ‘What should students do to protect themselves from sexual abuse?’” The essay must not exceed 400 words and the cartoons must be original.

Catholic League president William Donohue had a few words to say about the contest today:

“I have repeatedly been asked by reporters what grade I would give the media for its coverage of the sexual-abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. For hard-news reporting, my answer is an ‘A.’ But I would give the Courier-Post an ‘F.’ Not for its reporting, but for its (lack of ) journalistic ethics. Here are a few facts to ponder:

· the vast majority of child-sexual abuse is committed by family members
· the rate of pedophilia among priests is roughly the same among the clergy of other religions—between 2 and 5 percent
· the rate of pedophilia in the adult general population is roughly 8 percent
· 15 percent of pupils are sexually abused by a teacher or staff member between kindergarten and high-school graduation
· in only one-percent of the cases where students have been sexually assaulted by teachers did school officials attempt to revoke the offender’s license

“But this is besides the point. Crime data show that black-on-white crime is several times higher than white-on-black crime. Now it would be inconceivable for any newspaper to launch a student-essay contest asking white kids what they can do to protect themselves from being mugged by black kids. That’s because most papers abide by the kind of ethical standards that are noticeably absent at the Courier-Post.”