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7/8/02 | commieprof

Posted on 07/08/2002 4:52:12 PM PDT by commieprof

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To: tpaine
A+++++!!!!! Protected by copywrite?
141 posted on 07/08/2002 8:52:29 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: commieprof
If you cherish the freedoms of the United States, it would be hypocritical of you to be intolerant of the expression of opinions that differ from yours.

Nope. Try again. Feel free...

142 posted on 07/08/2002 8:52:56 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Benrand
Of course. But read what he has to say about his lyrics.
143 posted on 07/08/2002 8:54:31 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: commieprof
I encourage activists with views similar to mine to come out into the light of day.

The light of day is no place for a commie to operate.

Communist scum usually do their murders under cover of darkness.

144 posted on 07/08/2002 9:00:16 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: commieprof
When objects are in orbit around the earth they continue to have the same mass they had on the ground, but they have no weight. In the ideal case, high mass, zero weight. Of course there is microgravity, so there is some weight, however little.

On the Internet the situation is reversed in the ideal circumstance. Low mass, high weight. It doesn't make much sense in physics, but it isn't the first time a principle of physics was subverted to social sciences. Relativity - relativism. Quantum uncertainty - no controlling legal authority.

Earth satellites = high mass, low weight
Internet posts = low mass, high weight

145 posted on 07/08/2002 9:02:52 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: commieprof
Dear Dana -

As I examined your UT biography, helpfully posted by one of the regular users of this site, I wondered if you are a member of the cabal of socialist journalism PhDs at the University of Texas, which as near as I can tell is led by Dr. Robert Jensen.

I had the opportunity to tutor some of the unfortunate UT freshmen who took Jensen's J310 course, billed as seminar examining current issues in journalism. Lots of kids take it thinking they'll learn something about journalism, but what it really is is Marxism 101.

Take a gander at the text books used in the course: TEXTBOOKS:

Bennett, W. Lance, News: The Politics of Illusion, 4th ed. (New York: Addison Wesley Longman, 2001).

Newkirk, Pamela, Within the Veil: Black Journalists, White Media (New York: New York University Press, 2000).

Danner, Mark, The Massacre at El Mozote (New York: Vintage Books,1994).


READING PACKET:
(at Longhorn Copies, 2520 Guadalupe, 476-4498)

Ueland, Brenda, If You Want to Write, 2nd ed. (St. Paul: SchubertClub, 1983),Chapter 1, “Everybody is Talented, Original and Has Something Importantto Say,” pp. 3-9.

Cleage, Pearl, Deals with the Devil and Other Reasons to Riot (New York:Ballantine,1993), “Why I Write,” pp. 3-7.

Orwell, George, The Orwell Reader (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1956),“Why I Write,” pp. 390-396.

Abu-Jamal, Mumia, All Things Censored (New York: Seven Stories Press, 2000),“Lethal Censorship,” by Noelle Hanrahan, ed., pp. 21-30; “Livefrom Death Row,” pp. 202-204; and “Media Is the Mirage,” pp. 229-230.

Herman, Edward S., The Myth of the Liberal Media (New York: PeterLang, 1999),Chapter 2, “The Propaganda Model,” pp. 23-29.

Simons, Geoff, The Scourging of Iraq (London: Macmillan, 1996), Chapter 1,"The Legacy of War," pp. 4-32.

Chomsky, Noam, "The Media and the War: What War?" in Hamid Mowlana, George Gerbner, and Herbert I. Schiller, eds., Triumph of the Image: The Media's War in the Persian Gulf--A Global Perspective (Boulder, CO: Westview, 1992),pp. 51-63.

Webb, Gary, Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion(New York: Seven Stories Press, 1999), Chapter 27 and Epilogue, pp. 451-485.

Kornbluh, Peter, “The Storm over ‘Dark Alliance,’” Columbia Journalism Review, January/February 1997, pp. 33-39.

All in all the course is a joke. If Jensen wanted to run a course like this, they should bill it Contemporary Leftist Thought and put it in the polisci department.

There are far too many professors of Cloud and Jensen's ilk at UT. They are ruining this once great institution. I would not send my children there, they would be far better off at Baylor or even Southwest Texas State. (Sorry about all the junk characters, I lacked the will to take them out.)

146 posted on 07/08/2002 9:04:05 PM PDT by motexva
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To: commieprof
Socialists' lies are the worst when they are pretending to be the most earnest.

Suharto didn't just "kill 200,000 people." He defeated a widespread, deeply entrenched, and virulently malignant Stalinist totalitarian cancer preparing to devastate one of the world's most populous nations. By cleaning the vermin out of innumerable communist nests he saved the lives of millions, who would have been the inevitable victimms in the revolutionary blood-bath being planned by this "Cloud" fool's heroes.


But he would lead you to believe Suharto just massacred innocent villagers for no good reason.
That's a lie, "Dana Cloud," and you are a socialista liar.


Quoting the leftwing whore Halfbright's lie about us killing all those Iraqi children is even more obscene. Those of us who care about the truth recall that "sanctions" were urged by the "Peace" advocates as an alternative to war.

"Give sanctions time to work!" they cried. Well, now, we had a war and we had sanctions, and we still have the vestiges of sanctions, and it is clear they never would have "worked."

But that would have been fine with "Dana Cloud," because he would have been happy to see Kuwait destroyed, and to see Saddam control all that oil, and to see the U.S. hamstrung as a result--that was and is the agenda, after all, isn't it, "Dana?"

Oh, and one final lie. About being "Antiwar?" You didn't protest when Saddam invaded Kuwait did you. And you didn't care if the Soviet scum destroyed Indonesia did you? "Antiwar" my ass. That is your biggest lie of all, socialist crackpot liar.
147 posted on 07/08/2002 9:09:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: liberallarry
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Copyright?
Care to explain?
148 posted on 07/08/2002 9:12:42 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: neutrino
When four percent of the world's population controls more than 60% of the world's wealth,

It means the other 96% of the world's population needs to get off its butt, and start producing something.

149 posted on 07/08/2002 9:38:08 PM PDT by Bandolier
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To: tpaine
Oh, I thought it was brilliant. I couldn't understand a word of it. Someone really good must have written it. Was this the Social Text parody?
150 posted on 07/08/2002 9:52:58 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: commieprof
Oh, dear. I wonder what you're a professor of. Certainly not history, as you seem not to know it. I have read your Howard Zinn. A sociologist friend gave me a copy of A People's History of the United States when it first came out. Having only a couple of years earlier finished my field exams in American history, I was appalled at the errors and blatant Marxism and anti-Americanism of Zinn's work. He has stated explicitly in other writings that he regards making his political point more important than historical accuracy. As my children have been forced to read Zinn in their high school honors history classes, I reread the book and came away with an even more unfavorable impression than I had originally formed. I cannot respect his work, or take him seriously.

The truly astonishing thing is that you can remain a Marxist (calling yourself commieprof strongly suggests this) after 1989 and the fall of the Soviet empire. The revelations that have come to light in the past dozen or so years make it clear that Marxism in Russia and Eastern Europe was a thug's game and morally bankrupt from the get-go. Virtually all of the charges levelled against Marxims by the right - from von Mieses on the economics side to Popper on the philosophy side and Koestler and even Whittaker Chambers, turned out to be not only true, but understated. Have you read The Black Book of Communism? Edited by Frenchmen and the work of European scholars, many with leftist credentials, the work is damning.

It used to be said (variously attributed to Clemanceau, Churchill and several others) that anyone who was not a socialist at 18 had no heart, and anyone who was not a conservative at 40 had no brains. More truly, it must be said that anyone who remains a Marxist after 1989 is either an idiot, a naive fool, or a power-hungry enemy of mankind.

151 posted on 07/08/2002 9:54:28 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: liberallarry
Only truly brilliant commierprofs can understand these higher forms of social text & discourse.
And yes, you will be amazed at the identity of the author.
152 posted on 07/08/2002 10:20:15 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: CatoRenasci
I haven't been in school for nearly 40 years. When I was it was in the hard sciences - but I had a lot of friends in politics and the arts, and I enjoyed them immensely. Their professors could really talk and spun a wonderful web. I remember a popular book of the time - The Excremental Vision. I may have read a chapter or two. I didn't care whether it was true or not. It was vastly inventive and entertaining.

Now, when I read the work of commieprof I am appalled. Have things changed so much or was I merely young when I formed those opinions?

153 posted on 07/08/2002 10:27:54 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: tpaine
Well? Do I have to beg?

I have a story of my own. Unless I'm dealing with an arcane but respected speciality I'm always suspicious if I can't understand a word of an English text.

I was working with a woman who claimed to channel. She knew I was sceptical so she brought a book which explained it. I couldn't understand a word. She said she would help and asked me to read passages which confused me. Since she wasn't watching closely I just skipped from page to page - a word here, a sentence there. When I'd put together about 6 paragraphs I asked her to explain. She did.

154 posted on 07/08/2002 10:38:59 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: commieprof
Hate America First, by Gore Vidal:
I was in Guatemala when the CIA was preparing its attack on the Arbenz government [in 1954]. Arbenz, who was a democratically elected president, mildly socialist. His state had no revenues; its biggest income maker was United Fruit Company. So Arbenz put the tiniest of taxes on bananas, and Henry Cabot Lodge got up in the Senate and said the Communists have taken over Guatemala and we must act. He got to Eisenhower, who sent in the CIA, and they overthrew the government. We installed a military dictator, and there's been nothing but bloodshed ever since.

This event was the watershed for nearly every subsequent protest by the leftist liberals in the Americas (including the U.S.) and was pointed to over and over as the great evil of American patriotism; it has been thrown around every program of socialist interest on college campuses ever since; it is popular among the left-winger-weenies as the calling card or ID card of the politically correct's assertion that the United States of America is the enemy to be hated.

I may strongly disagree with even more such "businesses practices" than has Mr. Vidal, but his ill will toward Americans trying to defend themselves against the ultra-coercions of the nationalizing socialism(s) which he and his followers have favored, has constantly overlooked that very horror, such as this, which we still struggle against --- what the leftists have manifested; see: The U.S. case against the court (ICC) is bogus on its face., Minneapolis Star-Tribune, July 2, 2002, by editorial staff (posted by wallcrawlr). My reply there:

Why is there no mention of the truly large atrocities committed by the extreme left-wing in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune?

Will Castro and the communists of Cuba be arrested?

Will the communists of Southeast Asia be arrested?

Will the communists of Asia be arrested?

Heart of darkness: Cambodia's Killing Fields

 August 8, 2001 [CNN online]

By CNN's Joe Havely

PHNOM PENH, Cambodia -- The fields of Choeung Ek on the outskirts of the Cambodian capital, Phnom Penh, carry a dark secret.

Across the baked earth scraps of cloth and human bone poke through the soil and are slowly bleached white by the harsh tropical sun.

In the center stands a glass-walled shrine containing more than 8,000 skulls -- the remains of just a few of those who died here.

These are the Killing Fields of Cambodia.

Here, just a few kilometers from the center of Phnom Penh, tens of thousands of people met their deaths -- entire families wiped out.

Many of those killed were intellectuals or trained professionals -- people considered counter-revolutionaries by the Khmer Rouge leadership bent on turning Cambodia into a [communist, socialist, leftist, fascist] peasant's paradise. (In " [ ] " --- mine, F_S)

Towards the end of its rule, as the regime became increasingly paranoid and turned on itself, many once senior Khmer Rouge cadres also met their end at Choeung Ek.

Men, women and children -- some just a few months old -- were killed here, often in the most violent and brutal ways.

With bullets in short supply, the condemned were forced to kneel before an open grave then stabbed through the head with a sharpened bamboo stake ...

Reign of terror


The fields of Choeung Ek contain more than 100 mass graves

In the corner of the field stands a tree ...

Against its trunk the heads of babies were smashed by young men brainwashed into believing their actions would free Cambodia from colonial imperialism ...

Reuters contributed to this report.


155 posted on 07/08/2002 10:52:36 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: liberallarry
Check out:


http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern/
156 posted on 07/08/2002 10:53:19 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: commieprof
hey there, while laughing out loud with your friends as you read these posts, you had no idea that you were so wrong and that your arguments didn't hold up ... get a good night's sleep

Inri

157 posted on 07/08/2002 11:10:38 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: supercat
Actually, coöps can work under certain circumstances. Indeed, even relatively pure communism can work in societies that are small enough that everyone knows everyone else, and where people inherently reward hard workers and shun slackers. Unfortunately, such societies are very fragile, and coöps can usually only survive if they both maintain a narrow focus and have a means of accountability (either direct, if they're small enough, or financial, if they're larger).

Linda Ellerbee tells a great story about that.

She lived in a commune for a while during her idealistic youth. One day she needed water for the meal she was cooking, so she trudged 200 yards down a step snow-covered hill, at night, freezing her butt off, chipped through the ice over the stream, scooped out a bucket of freezing water, and trudged laboriously 200 yards back up the slippery hill with a heavy bucket of water.

When she got back inside, a guy lying on the couch watching TV glanced over at her panting, frozen visage, lazily said, "far out, man...", then turned back to stare slack-jawed at the TV.

She moved out the next morning and got a job.

158 posted on 07/09/2002 12:26:07 AM PDT by Dan Day
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To: liberallarry

Et tu, liberallarry?

LOL!

159 posted on 07/09/2002 3:41:08 AM PDT by metesky
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To: liberallarry
Now, when I read the work of commieprof I am appalled. Have things changed so much or was I merely young when I formed those opinions?

Both. You undoubtedly were filled with the typical idealism of youth, hence my earler quote about 18 and 40. More importantly, things really hae changed so much. When you were an undergraduate, most of the professors were liberals of the New Deal variety, with a few Marxists and socialists in the mix and a few conservatives. The graduate students were increasingly radical and Marxist taken as a whole. Those graduate students have spent the past 20-40 years becoming the full professors of today and raising several generations of Marxist and radical scholars. The result is what you see in commieprof, a reductio ad absurdam of the ideas you found entertaing and inventive 40 yearsa ago and the feminist and Marxist and politically correct trends I saw in graduate school some 30 years ago. The liberalism you knew 40 years ago bears the same resemblence to what currently passes for liberalism as a sailboat bears to a battleship.

160 posted on 07/09/2002 4:09:47 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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