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BREAKING: BRENDA VAN DAM DANCED WITH WESTERFIELD: (Modern Day Westside Story?)7-9-02 Trial Watch
KFMB ^ | July 9, 2002 | KFMB

Posted on 07/08/2002 10:23:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

WITNESSES SAY BRENDA VAN DAM DANCED WITH DAVID WESTERFIELD

(07-08-2002) - Three defense witnesses testified Monday that Brenda van Dam and David Westerfield, the man accused of murdering 7-year-old Danielle van Dam, danced together the night before the girl was discovered missing.

"Mr. Westerfield and Mrs. van Dam were dancing," said Patricia LePage, describing the scene at Dad's Cafe and Steakhouse the night of Feb. 1.

Since the prosecution introduced hair and fibers found at the defendant's house and motorhome, the defense has tried to show the evidence could have been transferred in some other way, such as dancing.

The 50-year-old defendant would face the death penalty if convicted of kidnapping and killing Danielle van Dam, who lived two houses away in Sabre Springs. He is also charged with misdemeanor possession of child pornography.

In testimony near the beginning of the trial, Brenda van Dam told the court she did not dance with Westerfield.

But LePage said van Dam rubbed her hips and chest against Westerfield during several dances together, recalling the movie "Dirty Dancing." That was just part of what LePage described as "frisky" behavior exhibited by van Dam that night.

LePage said she was in a smoking lounge at Dad's with her daughter, Cherokee Youngs, when van Dam came in and struck up a conversation with the younger woman.

"Well, she did ask my daughter if she liked girls," LePage said when asked to describe the conversation. Van Dam, she said, asked Youngs if she wanted to come to her house for a party later that night.

Youngs testified about the encounter last week.

Duane Blake, a fisherman who said he goes to Dad's a couple times a week, said he caught a glimpse of the defendant dancing with van Dam.

altBlake confirmed an interview with the District Attorney's Office, in which he described their dancing as, "huggy, huggy." He testified he even thought Westerfield might be trying to pick up on van Dam.

Earlier Monday, another woman testified she saw Westerfield dance with Danielle's mother.

Glennie Nasland, who began her testimony last week, said she was on the dance floor and saw the pair turn toward each other while dancing with other people.

Nasland, who described herself as a friend of Westerfield, said she watched them for 20 seconds before they turned away again.

In other testimony Monday, Dave Laspisa said that going to the desert to look for friends, and without bringing an all-terrain vehicle, was not an unusual activity for Westerfield.

The witness, a self-employed Poway man, said he's known the defendant for 15 years and has camped with him near the Imperial County community of Glamis for 10 years.

The witness was one of several people who testified as the defense began to move away from what happened at a Poway night spot the night before Danielle was discovered missing Feb. 2 to Westerfield's weekend wanderings.

Westerfield's attorney, Steven Feldman asked Laspisa to explain why someone would avoid Interstate 8 while taking a motorhome to the desert. Laspisa said high winds and black ice were common on that route, which traverses altitudes over 4,000 feet.

Heather Mack, a security guard at Coronado Cays, testified that she saw Westerfield drive his motorhome into the exclusive neighborhood in the afternoon or evening hours of Feb. 3.

Mack said Westerfield smiled and waved at her as he drove past her security kiosk, but she never saw him again.

The witness told Dusek that she originally told a police officer that she "vaguely remembered" seeing the defendant's recreational vehicle.

Glen Seebruch, an engineering manager at Nokia, testified earlier that Westerfield called him the morning of Feb. 1 and told him he planned to go to the desert that weekend.

Feldman, told Judge William Mudd that his case may be completed by the end of the week.

Insect expert David Faulkner is expected to testify about how long the victim's body may have been in the East County before volunteer searchers found it on Feb. 27.

Feldman has said Westerfield would have had no opportunity to dispose of the body because he was under constant police surveillance from Feb. 4 until his arrest Feb. 22.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: frank180; vandam; westerfield
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To: UCANSEE2
10-4 good buddy..
1,021 posted on 07/09/2002 5:19:12 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: BunnySlippers
From NUMEROUS WELL INTENTIONED AND THOUGHTFUL FREEPERS..


John Jamieson and Valpal1's comments

Combining your excellent posts...along w/some extra comments


Here's what I think the prosecution has proven "beyond a reasonable doubt":

1. What.. Homicide and kidnapping

2. Who - deceased victim Danielle Van Dam

3. When - Sometime between 2/1 and 2/17 (Exact date and time of death and date and time of dumping both unknown)

4. Where removed from her home-, and killed somewhere within the area between her home and body location on Dahesa Rd.

5. How - Exact cause of death unknown. More than likely suffocation, determined by elimination method Danielle van Dam is dead, her pajamas were removed and her nude body was illegally dumped off of Dehesa Road Person(s) who dumped her is also unknown, But a suspect was arrested and charged. Manner of death is also unknown, posion, drugs, stabbing, strangulation and bullet have been elminated. ME could not elimate suffocation.

Young girls don't just die, she's seven, not seventy-seven. Accidental suffocation of seven year olds generally involve appliances like refridgerators or accidental asphyxation by caught clothing. Course, it's highly unusual for children to disrobe for hide-n-seek or for corpses to shed clothing that strangled them, so nudity in an accidental suffocation is a red flag to investigators and most manuals will tell you in such cases to look for pornoghaphy and autoerotic paraphanalia. Although that would also be highly unusual behavior in a seven year old as well.

There is ample proof that she had no organic desease or defect (natural causes). Claims that she could have died by her own acts of misadventure do not explain the location of the body. Claims that her nude body was placed there to cover up an accidental death that no one caused lack basic logic.

Either the minimal forensic evidence in DW's home and RV was left there through prior casual contact (cookie sale) and transference or it didn't. But it most certainly did not get there by Danielle wandering over and accidently suffocating in the nude while no one was around

6. Why - Criminal intent or to prevent discovery of other crime (felony murder).

7. Defendant --David Westerfield, neighbor of Danielle.

8. Known previous contact--Danielle van Dam was once in David Westerfield's home to sell him girl scout cookies. Brenda and DW had spoken in a bar and grill called "Dads" on 2 separate occasions.. Stipulated by both sides.

9.Known evidence --Danielle's dog hair, her hair and blood found in motorhome. Blood from both Danielle and David Westerfield on DW's jacket. DW had scratches on his arm and possibly legs. Fibers with common source.. found on or near Danielle's body and David Westerfields home. Child pornography, both legal and illegal found in DW's home office. Danielle was found nude, with her necklace on. Various fibers, hairs vegetative growth located on and around her body.


Special Notes

1,022 posted on 07/09/2002 5:19:57 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
I gather someone livened the thread up with good old-fashioned slander. Unsubstantiated, of course. Since the offending post has been pulled, can you paraphrase (without re-offending the readers)? I'm not easily insulted, but if I was included in an gratuitous swipe at my character, I might take it wrong (pending apology of course)
1,023 posted on 07/09/2002 5:19:57 PM PDT by fnord
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To: BunnySlippers
You know, hundreds of thousands of small children die of malnutition and desease all over the world every day. I would think that child porno probably kills only a small fraction of that.
1,024 posted on 07/09/2002 5:19:58 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: MizSterious
You haven't had a verbal impulse you could control since I saw you appear on these threads.

Now if that isn't a personal slam directed to one person specifically I don't know what is.

1,025 posted on 07/09/2002 5:20:32 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: John Jamieson
You know, hundreds of thousands of small children die of malnutition and desease all over the world every day. I would think that child porno probably kills only a small fraction of that.

I'm not going to play numbers games with you. I'm sure you'll agree that it's pretty ugly. No?

1,026 posted on 07/09/2002 5:22:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; BunnySlippers; redlipstick
that wonderful summary, again. I think this should help provide some information to the LATE AFTERNOON people. The ones that probably don't get to see the TRIAL on LIVE TV. This is a shame because they miss so much and have to depend on the MEDIA, newspapers, Star and Enquirer, Evening NEWs, etc. (or relapses on CTV) to be told what is happening in the trial. They can't watch for themselves and use their own mind to come up with an opinion.

My heart goes out to you. ANYONE that is lacking in information on the DW trial, there are many posts on these threads with good summaries. ~kim4VRWC's~ has just provided a repeat of a VERY GOOD ONE.

1,027 posted on 07/09/2002 5:24:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Yeah, I know. I've been down this road before. Most days, I use that built-in "ignore" button.
1,028 posted on 07/09/2002 5:24:58 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: MizSterious
LOL, Miz...at least you didn't accuse someone of endorsing Infant and Child porn over swinging...

sw

1,029 posted on 07/09/2002 5:25:08 PM PDT by spectre
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To: Jaded
I would like to be added to the ping list please. I have been lurking and reading all threads since well before the trial started, but have never posted. Sometimes though I have been left sputtering like that AFLAC duck after listening to Yoggi Berra.
1,030 posted on 07/09/2002 5:25:10 PM PDT by bolthead
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To: UCANSEE2
I don't understand your first comments, Cyn. -----that DW is being framed by the doing of laundry at DW's What do you mean there?

Perhaps I misunderstood you? I thought you were saying that since DW's side door had been left open anyone trying to frame him could have gone in and done laundry explaining the fiber evidence.

1,031 posted on 07/09/2002 5:25:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Jaded
Please put me on that ping list! Thank you.
1,032 posted on 07/09/2002 5:25:35 PM PDT by Mrs.O'Strategery
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To: fnord
I gather someone livened the thread up with good old-fashioned slander. Unsubstantiated, of course. Since the offending post has been pulled, can you paraphrase (without re-offending the readers)? I'm not easily insulted, but if I was included in an gratuitous swipe at my character, I might take it wrong (pending apology of course)

What post got pulled?

1,033 posted on 07/09/2002 5:25:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
, Star and Enquirer

Gosh, don't get me started on tabloids. :-P

1,034 posted on 07/09/2002 5:26:37 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: BunnySlippers
I think that some small children maybe abused, particularly in northern europe and asia, but most of it is simulated.

In any case I think it has NO value in determining who killed Danielle. The real dangers to Danielle were much closer to home.....in her home in fact.
1,035 posted on 07/09/2002 5:27:02 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: bolthead
Welcome aboard. There's room for everybody.
1,036 posted on 07/09/2002 5:28:32 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: bolthead
BOLTHEAD, you have been added to the PING LIST. Thank you and Welcome to the Threads!
1,037 posted on 07/09/2002 5:28:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Sorry Kim, too many - sometimes, somewhere, more than likely's, unknown, possibly, may have been, might have - to convince me that DAW is the perp. of this horrendous crime.
1,038 posted on 07/09/2002 5:30:12 PM PDT by GoRepGo
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I still think the swinging angle is much more important to the hot-head 'hang 'em before the trial' crowd. I can't quite grasp why but there is a small segment of the pro-DA side that finds it quite titillating.

Interesting that they then turn and claim the porn on DW's computers (a minute fraction of which is rumored (but unsubstantiated) to be 'child' porn) is a clear indicator of motive and guilt; all the while claiming out the other side of their mouth that the porn from the VD's is unimportant.

I'm not saying this necessarily applies to you, just the real whacko hot-heads. Wonder what they will do for excitement during the long break ...
1,039 posted on 07/09/2002 5:30:50 PM PDT by fnord
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To: GoRepGo
I agree. Way too much garbage in/garbage out to convince me they've come close to tying this thing to Westerfield.
1,040 posted on 07/09/2002 5:33:01 PM PDT by the Deejay
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