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1 posted on 07/10/2002 6:53:54 PM PDT by Pokey78
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2 posted on 07/10/2002 7:08:46 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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3 posted on 07/10/2002 7:18:50 PM PDT by weikel
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4 posted on 07/10/2002 7:21:23 PM PDT by dennisw
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What can done? Public debate in America is lively, with the neo-conservative press delighting in being rational yet outrageous. A Wall Street Journal column this month warned: "A nuclear war stirred up against the 'infidels' might end up displacing Mecca and Medina with two large radioactive craters." A range of only slightly less critical comment has had to be countered by full-page advertisements in the press, placed by a PR company acting for the Saudis.

**** How about that! The House of Saud, the "custodians" of the two holy cities of Islam left without their prime tourist attractions. Muslims on Haj get left out in the cold unless they want skate on glass.
5 posted on 07/10/2002 7:25:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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Public debate in America is lively, with the neo-conservative press delighting in being rational yet outrageous. A Wall Street Journal column this month warned: "A nuclear war stirred up against the 'infidels' might end up displacing Mecca and Medina with two large radioactive craters."

While I'm encouraged by the writer's tone and sense of alarm in the article, I find it strange and perplexing that the comparison with this scenario and the Blitz on London followed by massive bombings on Germany by both the Brits and U.S. is lost on the writer. Has he no sense of the seriousness of such an attack on our soil, or his, for that matter? Have the Brits completely lost their senses? What will it take to convince them of the threat on us all, a dirty nuc going off in the center of London?

6 posted on 07/10/2002 7:35:37 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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Leave it to the Telegraph to print something sensible about Saudi. It seems the Telegraph is the closest thing to a "conservative" news voice in the UK.

Wouldn't it be a shame if the "big attack" on Iraq just happened to take over Suadi instead? I think the lowliest division in the U.S. Army could probably clean the place up in about two days. (47.9 hours for deployment of forces, 0.1 hours for actual fighting.)

7 posted on 07/10/2002 7:51:05 PM PDT by Ronzo
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How much longer are we going to have to put up with the rantings of Ghazi Algosaibi, the Saudi ambassador to the Court of St James's? This week he described the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as "far more severe than anything the Germans did".

This is what happens when you learn all your history from Palestinian history books.

8 posted on 07/10/2002 8:07:26 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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I awilling to pay $3/ gallon for gasoline if it means we permanently dissociate ourselves from all Saudi oil.
9 posted on 07/10/2002 8:15:42 PM PDT by jimkress
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We should simply let Iraq plunder Saudi Arabia and then take out Saddam.
10 posted on 07/10/2002 8:33:57 PM PDT by mikeIII
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Saudi Arabia used to be friendly to the US. Since Abdullah has taken over as de-facto ruler, there has been a problem. Abdullah hates the West and especially the US. He is funding terrorist groups. The US has given Saudi Arabia "special" treatment and it is time for that to end.

The Saudis are funding the very terrorists who will do what they can to damage the US and its interests, and Israel.

We should disassociate ourselves from the Saudis at once. The problem is Bush41. George Herbert Walker Bush has a relationship with the Saudis and is acting as their spokesman in Washington. He can pull strings to see that the Saudis get special treatment, such as arranging for the plane to fly out the Bin Laden family on September 11th. Bush41 has several Saudis on the Board of Directors of the Carlyle Group.

Fortunately the current President Bush is aware of the duplicity of the Saudis and I am confident he will act in the best interest of the US and won't listen to his father. Condoleeza and Colin also see the Saudis for what they are. Secy Powell is sort of trapped by the State Dept. though, who are very pro-Saudi.

Many problems ahead for us with the Saudis.

12 posted on 07/10/2002 10:27:51 PM PDT by Tom Jefferson
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For now it is better to be friends with the Saudi's than to be openly hostile. We still have troops on their land and some of our allies depend upon Saudi oil.

As with Pakistan, it is better for now that they are our 'friend' than our avowed enemy.

If we declare them the enemy then we have no influence at all.........and for now the Saudi's still want American approval.

13 posted on 07/11/2002 4:17:12 AM PDT by OldFriend
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How much longer are we going to have to put up with the rantings of Ghazi Algosaibi, the Saudi ambassador to the Court of St James's? This week he described the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as "far more severe than anything the Germans did".

the ambassador is absolutely correct! The german occupation of the west bank and gaza was so light as to be almost non-existent.
< /sarcasm>

14 posted on 07/11/2002 6:57:26 AM PDT by Valin
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al-Yamamah

Like "Yamamah so fat, the back o' huh neck look like a pack uh hot dogs!"

15 posted on 07/11/2002 7:06:52 AM PDT by ecomcon
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