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It's Offical: Crime in Gun-Free Britian Up 28%
BBC On-Line | Friday, 12 July, 2002 | staff writer

Posted on 07/12/2002 7:37:23 AM PDT by yankeedame

Friday, 12 July, 2002, 09:07 GMT 10:07 UK

Street robberies soar by 28%

There were 121,000 robberies in 2001/02

The number of robberies soared 28% last year according to the latest statistics which show a reversal in the long-term trend of falling crime in England and Wales. The rise in street crime prompted Home Secretary David Blunkett to vow to make this "significant" problem a "high priority".

There were 5.52m crimes recorded by police in 2001/02, 356,239 more than the previous year - an increase of 7%.

The Home Office says the rise has been inflated by a new method of recording crimes, which accounts for about 5% of the increase.

Facts and figures

The government argues that crime levels are stable. It cites as evidence the British Crime Survey - also published on Friday - which shows the number of offences to be slightly down.

But the Conservatives have accused the government of "statistical manipulation".

Home Office statistics chief Professor Paul Wiles said of the recorded crime figures: "It does not mean there is an increase in crime out there, it simply means the police are recording more of the crime out there."

But Peter Dunn, of Victim Support, said the rise in recorded robberies mirrored the experience of victims of crime coming to the charity.

"We are definitely seeing more referrals from violent offences in the street," he said.

"There are more people being mugged, particularly young people mugging other young people for their mobile phones."

The key areas where reported crime is on the rise are:

Violent crime up 11% to 812,000 incidents

Murders up 4% to 886 and attempted murders up 21% to 858

Robbery up 28% to more than 121,000 incidents, including a 31% rise in robbery of personal property.

Rapes up 14%

Soliciting up 60% The figures showed police solved slightly fewer crimes than last year - 1.3 million crimes out of 5.5m were detected, or 23% compared with 24% in the previous 12 months.

No amount of statistical manipulation can conceal what everyone on the estates in our inner cities already knows

Oliver Letwin, shadow home secretary However officials said the new way of collating figures also had an effect on this and the overall detection rate was virtually unchanged from last year.

Shadow home secretary Oliver Letwin blamed a "muddled" government policy for the rise in street crime.

"No amount of statistical manipulation can conceal what everyone on the estates in our inner cities already knows - that it is the gangs and the drug dealers rather than the forces of law and order that are in charge.

"We need the police back on our streets, a serious programme to reform the characters of youth offenders and a serious attack on the gang culture."

Second survey

The government has published recorded crime figures at the same time as the results of the £2.5m British Crime Survey (BCS), which asked 33,000 people about their experience of crime.

Prof Wiles said the separate survey showed crime last year was "stable after a period of decline".

It showed crime was down 22% since 1997 and by 14% over the last two years.

The survey paints a brighter picture regarding some forms of crime including burglary. Blunkett: Burglary and motor crime remain low

It found the chances of being a victim of crime were at about their lowest since the survey began in 1981.

Burglary was down 7% and thefts from and of vehicles were down 7%. The average person had a one in 50 chance of having their home burgled last year.

Cannabis experiment

Mr Blunkett said: "I am not pretending for a moment there is not a problem."

But he said policies recently introduced by the government would reverse the increase in crime and were "beginning to work".

"Part of it is more police and more community support officers," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

The government also needed to "get our act together across the whole criminal justice system" and that would be addressed by major reforms being announced next week, he added.

He also denied there was a link between the high figures for the south London borough of Lambeth and the pilot scheme there to turn a blind eye to cannabis possession.

'Appalling' figures

Fourteen of the top 20 robbery "blackspots" are in London, but the Metropolitan Police said results had improved since February, when Operation Safer Streets was launched to target street crime.

Officers from traffic units were redeployed to tackle robberies in the 15 worst-hit boroughs, and police visited schools to educate youngsters about crime prevention.


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I remember reading somewhere that in this day and age London is more dangerous than NYC.
1 posted on 07/12/2002 7:37:23 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
Good thing the citizens can't carry guns or that rate would be even higher...
2 posted on 07/12/2002 7:40:11 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
Oh, absolutely.

The law-abiding citizens would be having a field day, shooting up the place.
3 posted on 07/12/2002 7:42:41 AM PDT by Darling Lili
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To: yankeedame
"I remember reading somewhere that in this day and age London is more dangerous than NYC"

I wouldn't doubt it. I hear that most types of self defense are against the law there.

4 posted on 07/12/2002 7:44:59 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: yankeedame
Once again the Glock-to-crime ratio is proven correct. Higher Glock count = Lower crime count.
5 posted on 07/12/2002 7:46:01 AM PDT by yureikumaTN
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To: Darling Lili
Yep. If the citizens had guns then they might use them to defend themselves against criminals. Since England considers self-defense a crime, think of what that would do to the crime rate!
6 posted on 07/12/2002 7:48:01 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: yankeedame
It doesn't specify gun crime, but it does say robberies are up 28%. So your title is a bit erroneous. However, they would have less robberies if they allowed store owners and home owners to own guns for self-defense.
7 posted on 07/12/2002 7:48:13 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: yureikumaTN
Mmmmm...Glock...
8 posted on 07/12/2002 7:48:24 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: yureikumaTN
Hehe. I like it. We should call it the Inverse Glock-Crime Relationship Hypothesis.
9 posted on 07/12/2002 7:49:03 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: yankeedame
Does that include Scotland, Strathclyde in particular, where there are about 85 murders a year(population 380,000)?

Scrathclyde is nearly as rough as Flint.

10 posted on 07/12/2002 7:49:31 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: yankeedame
See also this thread.
11 posted on 07/12/2002 7:52:16 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: *bang_list


12 posted on 07/12/2002 7:53:00 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: yankeedame
Why am I not surprised? common sense told ALL of us that this is what was going to happen.

Australia and Canada reports should be telling as well.

But, do you think that this is going to change any of the minds of antigunners? Facts? they don't want no freaking facts, it would hurt their religion.
13 posted on 07/12/2002 8:10:04 AM PDT by Aric2000
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To: Aric2000
When did UK, OZ and Canada outlaw guns?

Thank GOD, we have the 2nd Amendment!!!

15 posted on 07/12/2002 8:18:43 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: Dimensio
Those dumb Limeys. I suppose we should all be polite colonials and pretend to be surprised.


Mmmmm...Glock...

Glock Model 23
My little darling, a svelte Model 23

16 posted on 07/12/2002 8:31:20 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: newfreep
Thank GOD, we have the BUTCHERED 2nd Amendment!!!

This story can't be true, don't they know that less guns=less crime?

I'm flabbergasted I tell ya !!

17 posted on 07/12/2002 8:33:12 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: All
enormous influx of aliens both legal and illegal hugely to blame methinks ...
18 posted on 07/12/2002 8:45:47 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: yankeedame
In a possibly related development, the number of men wearing nail polish has gone through the roof:

British men in nail polish buying frenzy

19 posted on 07/12/2002 8:49:57 AM PDT by dead
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To: George W. Bush
Proud Mod 22 (.40 Cal) owner right back at ya.
20 posted on 07/12/2002 8:50:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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