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RINO TX Gov. Perry trashes GOP Platform, disagrees with 50% of planks, supports only 7
Austin American Statesman ^ | July 12 | Ken Herman

Posted on 07/13/2002 1:09:01 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist

The full article is very lengthy, so in the interest of brevity I posted below the segment of the article (for full article see link above) specifying the positions he took against the Texas Republican Platform. There were a total of 46 planks in the survey. Perry disagreed with 50% of them. He partially agreed with 16 additional planks, and fully agreed with only 7 planks.

Where Perry, platform diverge

Highlights of Gov. Rick Perry's responses to questions about the Republican Party of Texas platform:

* The party opposes ballot initiatives and referendum votes as a bypass of "checks and balances." Perry said he "would be open to initiative and referendum with a high threshold for getting on the ballot."

* The party wants only registered voters to serve as jurors. Perry backs current law that allows all Texans except felons to serve on juries.

* Perry opposes the party's call to abolish "motor voter" laws that simplify voter registration and its call for re-registration of all voters every four years.

* Perry does not support his party's calls for life sentences without parole for habitual felony offenders and the extension of the capital punishment provision to allow the death penalty for rapists.

* Perry does not believe there is "sufficient citizen or legislator support" to abolish the Texas Lottery, as proposed in the party platform.

* Perry does not agree with his party's call for abolition of the Texas Education Agency's regulatory authority.

* Perry opposes his party's call for the "termination" of bilingual education programs in Texas.

* The Texas GOP platform calls for "a single standard for college admission for all students based on merit and ability, without regard to the school from which they graduated or class standing" -- as opposed to the top-10 percent law crafted to increase minority representation in state universities. Perry said he backs the law to "ensure that top-performing students from all parts of Texas have access to our state institutions of higher education."

* The party wants to scuttle programs that steer government contracts to minority-owned businesses. Perry said he supports the current system, which he says "encourages purchasing from Texas' historically underutilized and startup businesses."

* Perry shuns the state party's call for a radical overhaul of state and federal taxes, including a national sales tax to replace the federal income tax and other major levies.

* The platform says it "is in the best interest" of the United States to "rescind our membership" in the United Nations. Perry noted his disagreement with "many" U.N. policies but said it "is not currently in America's best interest to pull out."

* The platform said, "The current greatest threat to our individual liberties is overreaching government controls established under the guise of preventing terrorism." Said Perry: "I believe the Bush administration is properly balancing domestic security and individual liberties."

* Perry does not back his party's call for repeal of the minimum wage law.


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Before the attack fest of Perry loyalists starts, let me say this: Perry's opponent Tony Sanchez is a left wing extremist who I would never support for any public office in Texas. I will likely vote for Perry this november as what is increasingly fitting the mold of a lesser-of-two-evils campaign, but will do so holding my nose and with a giant asterisk noting that Perry leaves much to be desired as a candidate. I say this as a _former_ staunch Perry supporter who actively campaigned to elect him Lt. Gov. in 1998 and intended to do the same this year. As for his job performance and politics, quite frankly I am DISGUSTED with him and consider him to be a full fledged RINO at this point.

This is not due simply to the platform thing. That is simply the latest. I am talking about Perry's track record, which has been disturbing for quite some time. Just a few of the bigger highlights that come to mind:

- Perry signed the Democrat-passed Texas Hate Crimes Law in 2001.

- Perry appointed a liberal Democrat state representative as his first Texas Secretary of State. That democrat, Henry Cuellar, used his Perry-appointed position of Texas SoS as a springboard to mount a DNC-backed challenge to U.S. Representative Henry Bonilla. Bonilla is a conservative Republican congressman who has successfully held a marginally Democrat district along the Rio Grande for the last decade. Cuellar is his biggest Democrat challenger since he first won the seat.

- Perry's blown through the budget surplus he inherited with massive new state spending from the last legislative session.

- Perry campaigned for and passed a state constitutional amendment to provide millions of dollars in taxpayer funded infrastructure development to illegal immigrant settlements along the American side of the Rio Grande.

And now he's spitting on our Republican platform!

I'll concede that the Texas GOP has a very conservative platform and could reasonably understand Perry differing from it on a few planks such as the UN one (even though I'd personally prefer he did not). But some of these are CORE REPUBLICAN ISSUES that he is opposing! Perry flat out declared his opposition to the heart of the platform! He opposes us on:

- overhauling the tax system
- repealing the minimum wage
- eliminating affirmative action in government contracting
- Shifting education regulatory power from the bureaucrat Texas Education Agency to the elected State Board of Education
- establishing strictly merit-based state college admission procedures
- ending bilingual education
- sentencing without parole for repeat felons
- ending the Motor Voter vote fraud scheme

Most if not all of these are core conservative republican issues, and Rick Perry just publicly announced his opposition to every one of them!

Add that onto hate crimes, big spending, and his other liberal behavior in office, and I don't think it can be denied that Perry is a RINO.

I know this is an election year and realize I will probably be criticized by the "party loyalty at all costs" crowd for speaking out against Perry. But that's fine with me. My speaking out against Perry constitutes nowhere near the display of blatant disloyalty to ones own party shown by Perry himself both today and in the past.

Perry's behavior should be cause for concern for anybody living in Texas, especially Republicans. He is facing a strong challenge this year which we cannot afford to lose. But if it is lost, it will not be due to Tony Sanchez's merits. The republican majority in Texas will not vote for Tony Sanchez. They simply won't show up to vote in the strong numbers of the past with the reason being the absence of a worthy Republican candidate to fight for.

Flame or comment away.

1 posted on 07/13/2002 1:09:01 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Great post. Perry is certainly not a conservative. He is barely a republican. Having heard him speak in person, I know why he was once a demonrat. But to get to where he is now, he had to change parties. If Sanchez were'nt the flat out leftist/socialist he is, Perry would hardly be more conservative.

While Perry was a dem back in the 80's, he supported the Gore monster in his initial presidential runs and in some of his environmental views...need we say more?

2 posted on 07/13/2002 1:16:19 AM PDT by BUSHdude2000
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To: GOPcapitalist
Flame or comment away.

You're right. He isn't a very attractive candidate. But given the demographic realities of the Brave New Texas and the existing slate of candidates, what are we to do? And make no mistake...those nasty demographic realities are only going to get worse...

3 posted on 07/13/2002 1:27:02 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: GOPcapitalist
I don't see a true RINO. What I see is someone scared to be a conservative. Most of the planks you mention are "rock the boat" measures (and some are not relevant to his job at all such as overhauling the federal tax code or pulling out of the UN). So why take a position that would be so easy to turn into an attack ad for his opponents?

"Governor Perry would destroy minoroty hiring contracts and force English on everyone in our school systems..."

It's no wonder he's being mealy-mouthed about it. He's actually following the script of his predecessor to a tee. Perry's doing just the sort of stuff Bush was doing when he was Governor.

You can say these folks aren't conservative, but you can't say they're not popular.

4 posted on 07/13/2002 1:30:26 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan; GOPcapitalist
I don't see a true RINO. What I see is someone scared to be a conservative. Most of the planks you mention are "rock the boat" measures

I must agree. It seems he is also taking positions that won't destroy him with the Hispanic vote.

If you want perfection in a leader, there is Jesus. Other than that, we have to make choices in flawed human beings. If his opponent is worse, I would say pick the lesser of two evils.

If you don't those two options, then I hear hear Jesse Ventura (Reform Party) has his weekends (and weekdays) free soon.

5 posted on 07/13/2002 1:36:04 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: GOPcapitalist

6 posted on 07/13/2002 1:40:30 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: neutrino
And make no mistake...those nasty demographic realities are only going to get worse...

And that is precisely Perry's weakness. He had every opportunity in the world to capitalize on this and get qualified conservative Hispanic Republicans into office.

So what did he do? He appoints a liberal Hispanic DEMOCRAT to the highest appointed office in the state, and now the same guy's trying to take out our only Hispanic Republican congressman!

When Bush was governor he used almost every appointment opportunity he had to get qualified conservative minorities into the GOP leadership. He put them on the benches and in his governor's appointments and it worked. One of them, Tony Garza, was Bush's SoS. He's Texas' Railroad Commissioner now and is a likely candidate to be the next ambassador to Mexico. Another Bush SoS, Alberto Gonzales, is now the White House Council and is likely going to be a future judge on the US circuit or possibly eve supreme court. And it got Bush 50% of the hispanic vote in 1998.

Perry's appointments are disasters in comparison. He's appointed one black conservative to statewide office, Wallace Jefferson, but that doesn't get any votes because the blacks will vote Libertarian before they'll vote Republican (if you doubt me look at the 2000 elections in texas - RR commissioner Michael Williams, a black republican, had only a libertarian challenger. The libertarian won in black precincts all over the state). His only major Hispanic appointment was a liberal pro-abort RINO who got booted out in the GOP primary by a conservative. Practically every other elected office that Perry gets to appoint, meaning the judicial benches that open up from mid-term retirements (and there have been dozens of them), has gone to crony attorneys from big city law firms. Many of them had never voted in a GOP primary in their lives before Perry appointed them, and almost all of them had never been GOP activists of any sort.

7 posted on 07/13/2002 1:49:17 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Perry is pro-gun, pro-life, pro-war-on-terror, and he has powerful Hispanic friends such as the current Presidents of Bolivia and Mexico.

Hispanics now outnumber Blacks in America. Discard them at your own risk.

8 posted on 07/13/2002 1:50:50 AM PDT by Southack
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To: Tall_Texan
So why take a position that would be so easy to turn into an attack ad for his opponents? "Governor Perry would destroy minoroty hiring contracts and force English on everyone in our school systems..."

That is true, but think about the people that is likely to resonate with.

I can guarantee you it isn't the majority of the voters. It's the minority Democrats and especially the blacks. If I were in Perry's position, I would say bring it on and let the blacks be angry about it. I say this because Perry literally has nothing to lose on the issue.

Think about it. He is not going to get the black vote anyway - they'll vote libertarian before they'll vote for a black republican much less a white guy from rural Texas like Perry. In other years, potentially it would be wise to avoid the issue in order to not provoke their turnout, but this year they're going to be turning out anyway because Ron Kirk's on the ticket. Perry's basically got nothing to lose, and in fact would probably gain votes by appealing to conservatives who are fed up with affirmative action.

Same thing on hate crimes. I agree - it can make a nasty brutal attack ad issue. But again, who does it resonate with? The blacks, who will vote Democrat anyway and will turn out in numbers for Kirk anyway. Perry signed that bill and accomplished only one thing: pissing off conservatives who opposed it. The NAACP crowd shook his hand for a few minutes after he signed it then went back to business as usual. Perry gave them the piece of legislation they wanted and they thanked him by trashing him as the worst thing to happen since Hitler at their convention last week. And I'll bet $100 right now that they'll continue trashing Perry through the election.

Perry's doing just the sort of stuff Bush was doing when he was Governor.

I have to disagree with you there. IMHO, Bush was a lot wiser about the whole situation. He did some of the same, but he did it wisely. For example - Bush never had the hate crimes bill come across his desk because he made sure it never got out of the legislature. Even though Perry had virtually the same house and senate, he couldn't stop it. Bush also made his appointments wisely - he got qualified minority conservatives into office especially on the judicial benches. Perry appoints democrats, RINOs, and wealthy white trial lawyers from the big city firms.

You can say these folks aren't conservative, but you can't say they're not popular

Bush is definately popular. I don't think the same thing can be said about Perry. He hold a lead in the polls right now but he has been on a near-constant slide for months. Sanchez' negative ads are definately taking their hits and the reason is that Perry's support right now, unlike Bush's, is largely superficial. Conservatives are not enthusiastic about him and they're supposedly his base. If you lose your base, you lose everything else shortly after. And that is what I fear is happening with Perry.

I'm willing to hold my nose and vote for him, but I'm not so sure others will. Activist Republicans always vote, but the non-activist every day suburbinite Republican simply won't vote if they don't have a reason to go to the polls. As of right now, Perry is not that reason.

9 posted on 07/13/2002 2:06:28 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
The Lt. Govenor has most of the power in Texas politics. With that in mind, where does David Dewhearst stand on the planks?
10 posted on 07/13/2002 2:07:21 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Southack
Perry is pro-gun, pro-life, pro-war-on-terror, and he has powerful Hispanic friends such as the current Presidents of Bolivia and Mexico.Hispanics now outnumber Blacks in America. Discard them at your own risk.

That's nice, but Perry is also running against a Democrat Hispanic with even more powerful Hispanic friends.

In 2 years, Perry hasn't done crap when it comes to accomplishments with getting the Hispanic vote and probably advanced the Democrats with Hispanics more than he did the GOP. Literally, as in Henry Cuellar.

About the only thing he's done to "attract" them is thrown the state's money at them with new programs. Some may argue that this helps him, but the bottom line is a Republican is never going to win a government handout contest against a Democrat. Perry can promise them all he wants, but the Democrats are just going to come along and promise the same plus more.

That's why if he wants to get the Hispanic vote, he's got to use another strategy. He should have appointed a conservative Hispanic Republican as SoS. He didn't and we got Democrat Cuellar. When Cuellar resigned to run against our only Hispanic Republican congressman, he should have appointed Orlando Sanchez as the replacement. He didn't. He gave the job to an old hick constable friend that nobody's ever heard of. When literally dozens of judicial benches have opened up mid term, he should have appointed (1) conservatives and (2) conservative minorities. In the majority of cases, he did neither. The benches went to trial lawyers from big city law firms.

There is a case to be made for conservative outreach to Hispanics, but Rick Perry is not it.

11 posted on 07/13/2002 2:17:07 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
The Lt. Govenor has most of the power in Texas politics. With that in mind, where does David Dewhearst stand on the planks?

I don't believe he's spoken publicly about the platform. I'm not much of a Dewhurst fan myself, but that is mostly personal experience. The guy's an opportunist, which means he often does the right things but for the wrong reasons.

I guage him as more conservative than Perry, at least in office. And I do have to give him credit as land commissioner - he was basically the only state officer in Texas during his term to actually restrain his office's budget. I disagreed with what he did on coastal erosion vs. property rights, but overall have to give him decent marks from his term as land commissioner. Compared to Perry's disastrous performance, that makes Dewhurst look wonderful.

12 posted on 07/13/2002 2:22:21 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Flame or comment away.
No flame and I won't even bother with too many comments.

That is who the Rep. Party chose for you to choose from. How sad. A write in campaign would yield a better candidate.
Like "None of the Above" from "Brewster's Millions".
Pardon the cynicism.

TEXAS

13 posted on 07/13/2002 2:34:54 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: GOPcapitalist
I'm willing to hold my nose and vote for him, but I'm not so sure others will. Activist Republicans always vote, but the non-activist every day suburbinite Republican simply won't vote if they don't have a reason to go to the polls. As of right now, Perry is not that reason.

I'm voting for the GOP Perry. Sanchez doesn't have a chance, I think (read as HOPE).

14 posted on 07/13/2002 2:35:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Southack
pro-war-on-terror

Also on that I'm not so confident in Perry. Yes, he's probably pro-Bush on it. But when you get into some of the finer details and related issues, the record I've seen has not been very impressive. Case in point:

About 2 months ago there was a huge pro-Israel rally in Houston, as in 2000-4000 politically charged sure thing voters. Perry was in town that day attending some fundraiser earlier on. The event's organizers included 2-3 prominent Jewish Republican activists and they went out of their way to give Republicans an opportunity to speak. Cornyn came, and so did several local republicans including our nominee for a closely contested congressional race with an open seat. They extended an invitation to Perry to keynote the thing, which would have been easily accomodated in his schedule seeing as he was already in Houston for the day. Perry said no.

But if you've followed the local news recently, you've probably seen at least one story about how Perry's been attending the opening of things Islamic cultural centers and mosques in front of crowds with less than 100 people. He made a special trip to southwest Houston a few weeks ago specifically for the opening of one. Now, don't get me wrong - opening up mosques in Texas does NOT mean supporting terrorists and far from it. But politically speaking and publicity wise, it is flat out STUPID and especially when you are skipping out on pro-Israel events.

What do you think the average voter sees when a photo of Rick Perry cutting a ribbon in front of a mosque appears on the front page of the papers, as was the case a few weeks ago? And comparatively, what do you think that same person would see if a photo appeared of Perry at a pro-Israel rally? From a strictly political PR standpoint which of the two would be better for his campaign right now?

Without a doubt it is the pro-Israel rally. Perry had that choice. He skipped the Israel rally and he went to the Mosque. Now what would you guess any old average Bubba voter out in rural Texas thinks of that?

15 posted on 07/13/2002 2:39:56 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
The party opposes ballot initiatives and referendum votes as a bypass of "checks and balances." Perry said he "would be open to initiative and referendum with a high threshold for getting on the ballot."

This is a bit of a non sequitur, but I've always been troubled by the "referendum" process.

It is, in effect, "direct democracy" of the kind we ought to be on guard against.

Now, to be sure, there ARE "checks and balances" in that unconstitutional laws passed by referendum can be challenged in court. But there is certainly no executive veto available that I know of.

Anyway, the referendum process has always bothered me because it provides a sort of negation of the argument against direct democracy which the Lefties would LOVE to extend to the national level.

16 posted on 07/13/2002 3:16:05 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Tall_Texan
Bush wouldn't sign the "Hate Crimes" legislation. Perry did.

That might seem like a "single issue" response, but to me it was HIGHLY indicative of someone who tries to govern with reference to trumped-up media polls and sensationalist headlines. ("Hate In Texas"! Films at eleven...)

17 posted on 07/13/2002 3:18:41 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I guess those of us in the Dallas area remember the "hate crime" that just happened to occur when the legislation was pending, giving it additional impetus for passage. Wasn't it swastikas painted on the church Ron Kirk attended? Funny how that story and investigation were dropped once Perry signed the bill... No outrage from the offended parties that the culprits were never caught - due in part, I think, to strong suspicions that the whole thing was an inside job.

Not that this occurence provided any excuse on Perry's part. It was stupid of him to sign that bill.

18 posted on 07/13/2002 5:16:55 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: GOPcapitalist
* Perry does not believe there is "sufficient citizen or legislator support" to abolish the Texas Lottery, as proposed in the party platform.

Oh, and I guess I don't really mind the lottery, aka the "dumb tax." Sometimes when I'm watching my 401K shrivel I indulge the urge to buy a ticket, especially when the jackpot's topping $20 mil.

I often imagine a Simpson's-like scenario in which someone tells me "You'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning" to which I reply, Homer-esque: "Struck by lightning, eh..?"

19 posted on 07/13/2002 5:21:18 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: GOPcapitalist
I can't really disagree with your overall point. I'll be voting for Perry too, but without tremendous enthusiasm. Regarding the out of control spending, I'd blame George W. Bush for that, as he never had to worry about running out of money because the economy was so strong.
20 posted on 07/13/2002 5:23:54 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Puddleglum
I faxed a note to Gov. Perry just before the bill got to his desk, asking him please to reconsider what he was apparently about to do. My point was that the logical conclusion of this law would be to outlaw speech. I said that I could foresee a time when suit could be brought against a minister who preached a sermon against homosexuality, for example.

Weeks later (after it was signed into law) I got a form letter back saying something like "we have to end hate in Texas." As if a LAW could possibly end a human emotion.

This was a HUGE victory for the politically-correct, and a big disappointment for many of us.

21 posted on 07/13/2002 5:28:43 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: BUSHdude2000
Look how many people around Bush that are "former" democrats. Then look around Gore to see if you can find any "former" republicans.
22 posted on 07/13/2002 5:31:16 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Dewhurst is pretty conservative, but is currently losing to Sharpe. Texas is not yet a one-party state.
23 posted on 07/13/2002 5:32:08 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: cynicom
the enemy is within. Is everyone a fake?
24 posted on 07/13/2002 5:38:58 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: neutrino
#3: But given the demographic realities of the Brave New Texas and the existing slate of candidates, what are we to do?"

Hows about exporting illegal immigrants and putting the breaks on legal immigration until the great American melting pot is fixed?

25 posted on 07/13/2002 5:39:52 AM PDT by Jethro Tull
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To: TLBSHOW
TLB....

Condo Rice is "former" democrat, close bud of Gary Hart for many years. Liddy Dole is "former" democrat cheerleader for LBJ, Bush foisted her off on us here in NC for senator. The list is endless. Bush has also retained a few Clinton democrats in government, anyone that was a Clinton appointee, is no one I want around. Robert Mueller of FBI was a Clinton appointee to one or two jobs.

The termites always eat away quietly from within.

26 posted on 07/13/2002 6:06:57 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: GOPcapitalist
I know this is an election year and realize I will probably be criticized by the "party loyalty at all costs" crowd for speaking out against Perry.

As a precinct chair and party activist, know that I agree with you 100%. I will hold my nose and vote for him as the lesser-of-two-evils. (I'm not sure about that!

Perry was a Democrat; I think he still is.

I live in Southeast Texas, still home to the "yellow dogs." Bush won all three elections he ran in on the strength of conservative Dems. Perry is going to lose them; they have no reason to vote for him over Sanchez.

My greatest fear is that it will trickle down and have influence on state rep elections. Control of the Texas Senate was determined by the vote count in my county four (or six) years ago. And I mean vote count. The GOP candidate did not carry my county but he got sufficient votes to win the election which gave control of the senate to the Republicans.

We control 19 of 21 precincts in the county and I'm afraid we will lose half of them with Perry. It's determined by votes for governor.

There is a lot riding on this election and Perry is a drag on the ticket, IMHO.

27 posted on 07/13/2002 6:24:17 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: GOPcapitalist
Try this guy. I've met Jeff and talked over the issue with him. He's boarder line for an LP'er and would probably be better off in the RLC.
28 posted on 07/13/2002 6:27:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: GOPcapitalist
What is there to gain by changing the title of the article?
29 posted on 07/13/2002 6:30:00 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Zack Nguyen
I was probably the first person on this website to warn, many months ago, that Perry was not compiling anywhere nearly a conservative record in office. I think he is vulnerable, but his self-confidence is shameless. He will be the most surprised man in TX on November 6 if he loses, for he has never thus far lost an election. But he is clearly not giving many people a real reason to bother to drop by the early voting sites or the polls themselves.
30 posted on 07/13/2002 7:06:56 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: GOPcapitalist
Perry is a snake in the grass political opportunist who will change his postion with the wind. One thing is certain - if he makes it back into the Texas governership, he ain't going nowhere else.

As someone else said, most of us will be voting for him holding our noses.

31 posted on 07/13/2002 7:08:02 AM PDT by txzman
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To: cynicom
And I remember George Herbert Walker Bush gushing over "my friend Bill Clinton" at a White House "education" conference in 1989. GHWB was the last to figure out what he was doing.
32 posted on 07/13/2002 7:08:44 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: GOPcapitalist
Democrat Cuellar is believed to have an excellent chance to unseat the Republican Bonilla. And Perry helped to strengthen Cuellar. Rumor is that Cuellar was caught in a compromising sexual situation in the fall of 2001 and suddenly resigned as secretary of state. He did not even inform Perry that he was quitting. He gave maybe 72 hours of notice. Perry learned from a reporter elsewhere in the state that Cuellar had stepped down. At first Cuellar said that he would vote for Perry for governor. He has since changed his mind and has joined the Sanchez camp, even though Sanchez had earlier spread ugly rumors around the state about Cuellar's sexuality.
33 posted on 07/13/2002 7:12:09 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Dead Corpse
Presentation to the Rotary Club of Liberty, Texas by Jeff Daiell, Libertarian Candidate for Governor of Texas
34 posted on 07/13/2002 7:28:00 AM PDT by DoSomethingAboutIt
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To: neutrino
And make no mistake...those nasty demographic realities are only going to get worse.

I don't think I can vote for Perry and I don't think he's going to win. You're right ----some things are inevitable in Texas --like a state income tax and some big cultural changes.

35 posted on 07/13/2002 7:39:58 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: GOPcapitalist; BUSHdude2000
I only disagree with Perry on five of his points and the Texas Sec of State is a nice photo op job with no power.

The Texas platform is written so that VERY FEW people with an IQ above 100 points can agree with all of it!

BTW I do NOT like Perry but then again I don't much like our Platform Committee nor those who insist we should all follow it.

36 posted on 07/13/2002 7:40:54 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: GOPcapitalist
Can't the republican party find another candidate to run? Why should the party support candidates who are not compatible with it's mission.
37 posted on 07/13/2002 7:43:58 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: DoSomethingAboutIt
That's the man. He's got some proposals for change that are fleshed out a lot better than anything I've read on Perry or Sanchez.

Media blackout is going to be a huge problem for Jeff to overcome. The two big party names are pretty much the only ones you hear mentioned on the nightly news bites.

38 posted on 07/13/2002 7:45:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: GOPcapitalist; BUSHdude2000; sonofliberty2; Scholastic; belmont_mark; DoughtyOne; HalfIrish
Wow! Gov. Perry sounds like a real RINO! He is clearly trying to use Bush's bipartisan approach of appointing liberal Democraps to high ranking posts in his administration/judiciary. He is also repudiating conservatism while coopting much of the liberal Democrap agenda. The similarities to his predecessor, George W. Bush on these points are nothing less than STUNNING!
39 posted on 07/13/2002 8:48:46 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
I understand that my good friend the Curmudgeon would have quite a few comments on this one including a few, "I don't like" statements. The Texas Secretary of State in not a powerless job, granted it doesn't make the laws, but putting a lefty in charge of going by the book, well you know how that goes.

I'm curious what you diasgree with in the party platform. The party platform is more conservative than the majority of candidates that follow it. As I have said before, and maybe to you at our meetings, the platform is what the people want and it is meant to be followed by the candidates. If the candidates disagree with it so overwhelmingly, perhaps they belong to a different party. I'd love to see the people who gave Perry this quiz or test or setup or whatever it was, give the same one to Sanchez and see how closely aligned these two are.

40 posted on 07/13/2002 10:09:58 AM PDT by BUSHdude2000
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To: GOPcapitalist
How many people write the Republican party platform? It seems so right wing that no candidate espousing all of it would ever be elected to statewide office. Candidates do have to run in the real world.
41 posted on 07/13/2002 1:39:15 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: GOPcapitalist
The reason I'll vote for Perry is this - the vote will be close and I don't know what Sanchez really stands for. I have heard people like you intelligently argue that he is a left wing extremist. Several of my friends who work on congressional staffs in Austin thought argue intelligently that he far to the right of Perry. None of us can figure out where he is coming from. Perry is what he appears to be - A country club Republican. I'll take that over Sanchez's unknowns.
42 posted on 07/13/2002 5:22:15 PM PDT by motexva
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To: GOPcapitalist
No flames here. Excellent report. Thanks much. bttt
43 posted on 07/13/2002 6:50:37 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: GOPcapitalist
Good, bad or indifferent here's the choices of candidates... to which I gues you can add a 'write in' or choose to sit it out.......


Statewide Candidates for 2002 General Election

I = Incumbent

Governor
REP - I
Rick Perry
DEM -
Tony Sanchez
LIB -
Jeff Daiell
GRN -
Rahul Mahajan


44 posted on 07/13/2002 7:05:59 PM PDT by deport
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To: GOPcapitalist
They certainly slipped that Constitutional amendment through without any press. If we ever hope to bring D.C. to heel maybe we should see if it's possible to start small and control the State government.
45 posted on 07/13/2002 7:08:55 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: GOPcapitalist

Just a guess but, me thinks the "any old average Bubba voter out in rural Texas" doesn't even know of or heard of what you speak.

46 posted on 07/13/2002 7:53:35 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
You are so right! Since when did Freepers start quoting the bird cage paper, The Austin American Statesman? For as long as I can remember, the Republicans running for office haven't run on the arch conservative Republican Party of Texas platform.

Where do they find these guys that write it?
47 posted on 07/13/2002 8:36:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: GOPcapitalist
This weekend Sanchez and Perry spoke at the hispanic chamber of commerce. Like day and night. Sanchez read from his notes, has lots and lots of money to spend on lawn signs, handouts, etc. while Perry had a terrific without notes speech, got 3 standing ovations but unfortunately does not have the moola like Sanchez.
48 posted on 07/13/2002 8:49:59 PM PDT by olliemb
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To: GOPcapitalist
And you got to compare him with John Sharp. Any stats on these two candidates how they rate. Sharp is very liberal I am told (what has he done that makes him very liberal?).
49 posted on 07/13/2002 8:52:34 PM PDT by olliemb
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To: PhiKapMom
Hell the average "old Bubba voter out in rural Texas" has never heard of the platform and don't give a hoot about it either, imo. .... Unless it's the diving platform at the creek swimming hole.
50 posted on 07/13/2002 9:01:25 PM PDT by deport
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