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Could Mr. Right be white? [Black women choosing white men]
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 7/13/2

Posted on 07/13/2002 4:41:51 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker

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To: john in missouri
it might be hard on our kids to be neither one race nor the other.

My mom thinks this way. My own intention is to bring up any children we one day have to be secure enough in themselves that they don't have to rely on racial grouping to form an identity.

As for how society may accept our children, well... has anyone else noticed the large number of pretty biracial children turning up in television commercials, not to mention the number of biracial sports stars? I have a feeling that by the time my children come along, society in general will be quite used to accepting biracial people as an everyday occurence.

61 posted on 07/13/2002 9:32:30 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: RightWhale
I don't know. Mr. Lonely?

One would hope so.

62 posted on 07/13/2002 9:35:47 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
OK, I have to ask... who do you think is being conquered when it comes to white/black interracial marriages?

Boy, this isn't how I think of interracial marriages.

I used to live in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC, where interracial couples are common and where, whether as cause or effect, there seem to be (as far I ever noticed), hardly any major racial issues or tensions.

My wife's sister lives in Memphis, where race issues are so thick you could cut 'em with a knife, but only if it was a sharp knife. (Incidentally, I think at least some of the reason for this is an entrenched core of race-baiters and bigots of both races who keep things stirred up as much as possible).

For me, an interracial child is a living symbol that skin color is ultimately quite a superficial difference. It's a symbol that people with differing skin colors, and different heritages, can genuinely love each other.

63 posted on 07/13/2002 9:41:33 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
to accepting biracial people as an everyday occurence

We already do. Everyone, and I mean everyone! is already part of this and part of that. Doesn't matter where you are from. Even lily Europe has been overrun so many times by different tribes that it has everything there is. The rest is cultural.

64 posted on 07/13/2002 9:42:10 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I have a feeling that by the time my children come along, society in general will be quite used to accepting biracial people as an everyday occurence.

Personally, I would agree. I think it's a done deal.

65 posted on 07/13/2002 9:43:02 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: NativeNewYorker
"Even though the numbers may be in Atlanta men's favor, that doesn't make black women in Atlanta any less choosy," says Keith Aikens, a 36-year-old single black man. "Men still have to do a lot to prove themselves worthy."

Man, all this time I thought it was only us white guys that had this problem!

66 posted on 07/13/2002 9:43:22 PM PDT by jpl
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To: MinorityRepublican
Hooray for you , dear ! Hyphanated Americans, of any stripe,aren't REAL Americans. Also, you are obviously more intelligent than most, since you realize that people, of every race/ religion/ sex, have much more in common within their own social strata, than they do with ALL peoples who share one or all of the three other criteria, named previously. That's the BIG LIE, that race hustlers ( of any color ), keep trying to peddle.
67 posted on 07/13/2002 10:01:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: john in missouri
Have you (and any brothers/ sisters you may have) found it difficult, or not so much?

No, because we have middle class values, we work hard to get what we what, and as a result of that, people have high respect for my family. Color does not matter a bit. It's only an excuse. I don't like it when people say they can't do well in school because they're black, blah, blah.

68 posted on 07/13/2002 10:13:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: john in missouri
I used to live in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC, where interracial couples are common and where, whether as cause or effect, there seem to be (as far I ever noticed), hardly any major racial issues or tensions.

I live in Montgomery County, Maryland, one of the great things is that it is very diverse here and people are tolerant (in good and bad ways).

69 posted on 07/13/2002 10:16:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: john in missouri
but they did feel like if we did, it might be hard on our kids to be neither one race nor the other. I never thought that would be a huge problem. Have you (and any brothers/ sisters you may have) found it difficult, or not so much?

I'm the product of a mixed marriage (white/asian). I was raised to be an American. When I was younger there were some who tried to make my ethnicity an issue, but my parents taught me that those folks were trash. Neither my three siblings nor me have ever felt our ethnic background was either a help or a hindrance in accomplishing our goals....

70 posted on 07/13/2002 10:20:47 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: sonofron
You have alot to be proud of as well. I consider myself first and foremost an american, but i am also a product of 4000 years of european culture/civiliztion. I just value this too.

The reason I admire Europeans so much is not because they're white, but because of their civilization and how their way of living are able to function in the world for a long time.

Compare that with Africa.

71 posted on 07/13/2002 10:24:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: nopardons
Hooray for you , dear ! Hyphanated Americans, of any stripe,aren't REAL Americans. Also, you are obviously more intelligent than most, since you realize that people, of every race/ religion/ sex, have much more in common within their own social strata, than they do with ALL peoples who share one or all of the three other criteria, named previously. That's the BIG LIE, that race hustlers ( of any color ), keep trying to peddle.

As a voting bloc, generally Blacks are hopeless in elections because they see themselves as victims. They do not see themselves as individuals. Until that happens, they won't fully be part of the American community and vote Republican.

Even though blacks are solidly democratic, there are outstanding individuals such as Alan Keyes, and J.C. Watts. There's no man that I respect more than a black conservative. Imagine what they went through, and they know that their ideas are correct.

72 posted on 07/13/2002 10:29:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
The Innises ( father and son ), Clarence Thomas, and Ward Connelly ( and many others ! ) should be added to that list. Also, don't forget about the fantastic Conservative/ Republican black women, such as Jewel Stratford Lafontant ( of Chicago ) and, of course, Condi Rice.

I don't know how old you are; however, prior to the '60's, there were a LOT of blacks, who NEVER saw themselves as a member of a group, and most assuredly, NOT a " special " class of victims. You are quite correct, though, that far too many blacks ( but then, so do certain " special interest " whites ) see themselves as a " group ", rather than as an individual. That only hurts them; whether or not they vote GOP.

73 posted on 07/13/2002 10:42:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MinorityRepublican
The key is that it does not matter what color Americans are, but whether they retain the unique Western values.

Deserves a repeat.

74 posted on 07/13/2002 10:45:09 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: nopardons
I don't know how old you are; however, prior to the '60's, there were a LOT of blacks, who NEVER saw themselves as a member of a group, and most assuredly, NOT a " special " class of victims. You are quite correct, though, that far too many blacks ( but then, so do certain " special interest " whites ) see themselves as a " group ", rather than as an individual. That only hurts them; whether or not they vote GOP.

Maybe it's different for me, I'm real young, at the tender age of eighteen years. I never see myself as part of any group, except that I am an American. Other than that, I see myself as an individual with my own mind. No one can speak for me.

There will be tremendous improvements in America if Blacks would stop seeing themselves as victims. Until then, there is no hope.

75 posted on 07/13/2002 10:46:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: NativeNewYorker
How could she, her friends ask, given how white men have treated black people.

Must be my public education getting in the way again. I was taught that Black people sold their brothers and sisters into slavery. If its anything like drugs, the sellers/dealers are always treated more harshly than the buyers....

76 posted on 07/13/2002 10:57:30 PM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: NativeNewYorker
I'm a white man married to a black woman, and I can say that I had absolutely no idea how racist so many people are until we got married. Still, we've been happily married 15 years and there are enough good people out there that we can pretty much shrug off the angry stares we get from time to time.

One thing I have noticed is that there are some myths about racism out there: I haven't found conservatives any more racist than liberals, for example. Nor have I noticed less racism among young vs. old, nor black vs. white.

77 posted on 07/13/2002 10:59:27 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: MinorityRepublican
For someone as young as you are ( your age came as a surprise, dear ! ), you have your head screwed on right ! Your parents did a fine job, and you ,obviously, use your God given brains well. : - )

I can tell you, from my own experiences, that even as far back as the late '40s, the '50s , and the early '60s, many blacks did NOT think of themselves as " victims ", nor as a " special " group. The " Black Power " movement ( NOT the Civil Rights movement ! ) and the Liberals, foisted that upon blacks... as a group.

78 posted on 07/13/2002 11:02:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NativeNewYorker
So does this mean that white men are better endowed?
79 posted on 07/13/2002 11:07:09 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: NativeNewYorker
If the population of unthreatened, educated males is mostly white, it makes perfect sense for black women to cross the color line.
Indeed, without a "color line", you would expect most blacks to marry whites, simply because the majority of people in the country are whites. But that still doesn't compute well, in that you still haven't explained where those black men are going to find wives. Or what the consequences of their not doing so are/will be.

80 posted on 07/13/2002 11:14:16 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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